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Carroll might finish the year as the #4 cornerback. Although, he did seem to play better the second half of last year.
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I just can't see carroll finishing as a number 4 CB. If he did wind up number 4 on the depth chart he would probably be cut. I just don't see how with his experience he could be a number 4. The great thing is if he starts out as 3rd on the depth chart, that's starting caliber in a nickel D. Credit TT for that. Carroll without a doubt has ability and learning from woodson and harris will help him learn the game better, I keep thinking back to that one pick against Cincy I believe, where he was running one way and then when the ball was in the air made a better break on the ball than the receiver did. It was beautiful too watch. I have a feeling next year he'll be our Number 1 CB.Comment
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HE'LL BE THE STARTING CB WHEN ONE OF THE STARTERS GET INJURED.Originally posted by MadtownPackerTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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If Hawkins works hard, he could become the guy. From what I understand, he has good ball skills which seems to be an unteachable trait. He's also longer and faster than Carroll so that doesn't hurt either.
We'll see. Carroll, Hawkins, Blackmon...You know were going to get at least one out of those 3.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.Comment
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Nah hell NO!!! I meant his is gonna take the job. Bank on it!Originally posted by BretskyComment
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I don't see Green Bay keeping Woodson for more than 2-3 years, which I believe is how the contract kind of starts out. I also don't see Harris being here after this year, maybe the year after for sure. I think TT set this all up hoping that this would light a fire under Carroll ass and give him an opportunity to learn from another good veteran CB. Whether or not he follows through remains to be seen, but he has the talent for sure nobody can agrue that, and when he comes around on the mental part of it, which I think he started doing at the end of last year, he's going to be a very good CB for a long time. As for Hawkins and Blackmon, I believe at first Hawkins will be given an opportunity for the starting job once both the vets are gone, if his body can hold up, as someone said before, he'll turn into at a the very least reliable number 2 CB if not overtaking Carroll for the Number 1 a 3-4 years down the road. I know these are pretty lofty expectations, but I just have a feeling that this is how TT looked at it during the offseason. It's pretty much the same setup that the Eagles use for DB's. Get the youngs ones a couple years before you release the Vets. A corner's confidence is the most important piece to the puzzle, and both Hawkins and Carroll are going to build it by having the game experience and now learning behind two solid vets.
But the most important thing is to be able to generate a pash rush from the Dline, and right now that's the part that concerns me the most.Comment
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Last I saw St L gave this site a nice compliment; Tex bashed us though. But he's a JS homer and considers it to be equivalent to Green Bay.....so if you are there you are great.Originally posted by Tarlam!TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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I must have missed St: Lou's compliment. I saw where he quipped that PR didn't last very long, cause some of our posters still post on JSO.Originally posted by Bretsky
Tex on the other hand knows most people on here aren't as fervently blind fans and as such, we commit blasphemy if we suggest anything less than a 16-0 season. Tex really believed we needed NO new talent via FA or draft this year.Comment
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St Louis said he can see why many went to Packerrats cause it's a nice site.Originally posted by Tarlam!
Patler ...aka...Shamrock.....maybe....ranted a bit about all the bad bitter postings and mentioned how the JS site was stocked with knowledgeable and good posters that left partly because of that......and Tex disagreed and threw in some Tex cuts at us.TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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Sounds like Tex. He wasn't happy when we were there, he aint happy now we're gone. Well, fuck Tex.Comment
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Well, you can count me OUT. I am neither a Carrol backer nor detractor. I believe he has the talent and physical ability to be a decent corner, and I think he has made some good strides toward doing that. I think he played "OK" at the end of the season, cut his penalties way, way down and was relying on his natural speed. BUT, he isn't there yet, and could top out at nothing more than an OK starter, its entirely up to his mind set.Originally posted by MadtownPacker
My position? It is too early to annoint him as a Packer for the next 10 years and also too early to give up on him. This year, his third year, is crucial to evaluating him. We will know what he is by the end of this season. Either he will continue the improvement we saw at the end of last year, or he will not. If he does, he stays; if he does not he won't be a Packer for a lot longer.Comment
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Carroll is a bust at GB. He would be well served if traded, so he can start a-fresh. Coupla things:
1. I like him as a player and think he's got what it takes.
2. His immaturity and arrogance are ´his legacy in GB.
He needs a new team to really flourish. It's not in him to start new here. If TT's advisers are smart, they'll be working a deal even as I type this. Carroll will be a great CB if traded. With us, his history will keep him down.Comment
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