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  • Sherman Has Voice In Texan's GM Search

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    POSTED 5:51 p.m. EDT, May 20, 2006

    SHERMAN HAS VOICE IN TEXANS' G.M. SEARCH

    A league source tells us that one of the people who will be included in the process of selecting a new General Manager for the Houston Texans is former Green Bay head coach/G.M. Mike Sherman, who joined the Houston coaching staff after being dumped by the Packers earlier this year.

    On one hand, Sherman's role is curious, since he was hired to be an assistant coach. Sherman's involvement could create a strange dynamic if, in the end, owner Bob McNair chooses a guy that was higher on Sherman's list than on head coach Gary Kubiak's. The new G.M. could have greater loyalty to Sherman -- and thus the two of them could, in theory, work together to undermine Kubiak over the long haul.

    On the other hand, Sherman arguably has the most qualifications of anyone in the organization to hire a G.M. because he actually has been a G.M. Sure, he was ultimately relived of his G.M. duties a year before losing his job as the head coach. But he at least has an idea as to what a G.M. actually does, and the qualities necessary to do it.

  • #2
    Hire Sherman as GM so he can screw up another teams roster with bad personnell decisions
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Bretsky
      Hire Sherman as GM so he can screw up another teams roster with bad personnell decisions
      Since when did Sherman ever "screwed up" a team he was GM as? Was he ever 4-12? Which GM in 2005 went 4-12 as the Green Bay Packers GM? Is he Ted Thompson? Or is she? Does Ted Thompson suck?

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      • #4
        Sherman created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited. Thus poor drafting and overpaying Joe Johnson and Cletius Hunt are just a couple of examples of Shermans fuck up of a GM career.
        Chris: Dad, what's the blow-hole for?
        Peter: I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BlueBrewer
          Sherman created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited. Thus poor drafting and overpaying Joe Johnson and Cletius Hunt are just a couple of examples of Shermans fuck up of a GM career.
          Show me, WITH NUMBERS, where Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."

          Sure, Thompson had to cut Wahle and Sharper. And Sherman had to cut Levens and Freeman. All thompson needed to do was cut Wahle and Sharper to get under the cap and then resign them to new contracts, which he failed miserably, motherfuckingly, homosexually. Sherman worked with far less money then Thompson has, and still did more (i did the research on this; posted it on jsonline, it is hidden somewhere there).

          $7.5 M is not cap problem. $28 M in not cap problem (to save time arguing, that is the amount minus the new CBA inflation). Dismantling the Pack is a problem.

          So where exactly did Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
            Originally posted by BlueBrewer
            Sherman created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited. Thus poor drafting and overpaying Joe Johnson and Cletius Hunt are just a couple of examples of Shermans fuck up of a GM career.
            Show me, WITH NUMBERS, where Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."

            Sure, Thompson had to cut Wahle and Sharper. And Sherman had to cut Levens and Freeman. All thompson needed to do was cut Wahle and Sharper to get under the cap and then resign them to new contracts, which he failed miserably, motherfuckingly, homosexually. Sherman worked with far less money then Thompson has, and still did more (i did the research on this; posted it on jsonline, it is hidden somewhere there).


            $7.5 M is not cap problem. $28 M in not cap problem (to save time arguing, that is the amount minus the new CBA inflation). Dismantling the Pack is a problem.

            So where exactly did Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."
            Who else could have done it? Sherman was the GM prior to TT. And yeah I would have liked to see Wahle resigned, but you know what I didn't have a say in it. TT should have found a way to keep Wahle I agree, but Sherman was still a horseshit GM. He continuously made bad decisions regarding personnel and the draft. He hit on Walker, but he turned out to be a fucking headcase in the end. So lets agree to disagree on the subject.
            Chris: Dad, what's the blow-hole for?
            Peter: I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World.

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            • #7
              Sherman had his ups and downs as a GM. But he was 36-12 as a GM, had four straight playoff appearances and 3 straight division titles. It has to be the best record ever for a GM that got canned.

              Why not ask Sherman for advice? He worked with one of the best GMs in the history of the NFL, Ron Wolf. For that reason alone, he should be consulted. All you Sherman haters should really pull your heads out of your collective assholes and realize the guy had some great qualities, despite his flaws.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mraynrand
                Sherman had his ups and downs as a GM. But he was 36-12 as a GM, had four straight playoff appearances and 3 straight division titles. It has to be the best record ever for a GM that got canned.

                Why not ask Sherman for advice? He worked with one of the best GMs in the history of the NFL, Ron Wolf. For that reason alone, he should be consulted. All you Sherman haters should really pull your heads out of your collective assholes and realize the guy had some great qualities, despite his flaws.
                He was a good coach not a good GM
                Chris: Dad, what's the blow-hole for?
                Peter: I'll tell you what it's not for, son. And when I do, you'll understand why I can never go back to Sea World.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                  Show me, WITH NUMBERS, where Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."

                  Sure, Thompson had to cut Wahle and Sharper. And Sherman had to cut Levens and Freeman. All thompson needed to do was cut Wahle and Sharper to get under the cap and then resign them to new contracts, which he failed miserably, motherfuckingly, homosexually. Sherman worked with far less money then Thompson has, and still did more (i did the research on this; posted it on jsonline, it is hidden somewhere there).

                  $7.5 M is not cap problem. $28 M in not cap problem (to save time arguing, that is the amount minus the new CBA inflation). Dismantling the Pack is a problem.

                  So where exactly did Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."

                  Show me exactly where Sherman created depth and new "stars" on an aging team. Show me the draft picks and the positions of which they play. Show me how many quality starters he pick up via free agency or the draft. Show me the depth he created to minimize the drop off when starters were hurt.

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                  • #10
                    Sherman had some great qualities. But his time was up in Green Bay.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by chain_gang
                      Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                      Show me, WITH NUMBERS, where Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."

                      Sure, Thompson had to cut Wahle and Sharper. And Sherman had to cut Levens and Freeman. All thompson needed to do was cut Wahle and Sharper to get under the cap and then resign them to new contracts, which he failed miserably, motherfuckingly, homosexually. Sherman worked with far less money then Thompson has, and still did more (i did the research on this; posted it on jsonline, it is hidden somewhere there).

                      $7.5 M is not cap problem. $28 M in not cap problem (to save time arguing, that is the amount minus the new CBA inflation). Dismantling the Pack is a problem.

                      So where exactly did Sherman "created the salary cap problem that Ted inherited."

                      Show me exactly where Sherman created depth and new "stars" on an aging team. Show me the draft picks and the positions of which they play. Show me how many quality starters he pick up via free agency or the draft. Show me the depth he created to minimize the drop off when starters were hurt.
                      Show me where Sherman screwed up the cap first. Don't change the subject, like every one else I've encountered. Admit Sherman never fucked up the cap, and Thompson is using the phase "rebuilding" to cover up his fuck ups.

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                      • #12
                        APB,

                        It's possible to have both views at the same time. Sherman was trying to WIN NOW with Favre, by taking chances on middle and late round picks, and the team also needed rebuilding. TT has made some screw ups, but it's possible that his style will ultimately work in the long term. One thing is certain - Sherman never had anywhere near the draft opportunity TT had this year. By sucking last year and trading Walker, the Packers had two extremely high second round picks to go with the number 5 pick. The success of the Packers and TTs success for many years to come will be linked to the 2006 draft (unless the Packers continue to suck and get very high draft picks).
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          Hire Sherman as GM so he can screw up another teams roster with bad personnell decisions
                          Since when did Sherman ever "screwed up" a team he was GM as? Was he ever 4-12? Which GM in 2005 went 4-12 as the Green Bay Packers GM? Is he Ted Thompson? Or is she? Does Ted Thompson suck?

                          I've seen people point out the logistics of how Sherman broke down the talent level and depth of Green Bay time after time. Since you refuse the ackowledge the facts of his poor drafting and free agent decisions, bringing out good reasoning to you is futile.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bretsky
                            Hire Sherman as GM so he can screw up another teams roster with bad personnell decisions
                            He probably wouldn't be that bad of a GM if he wasn't the coach as well. I think that more than anything was the reason for his failings here in GB.
                            "For a fan base that so gratefully took to success, it bothers me how easily some fans are resigned to failure."

                            No Mo Moss 9.14.06

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by chain_gang
                              Show me the draft picks and the positions of which they play. Show me how many quality starters he pick up via free agency or the draft. Show me the depth he created to minimize the drop off when starters were hurt.
                              While we are dumping on a guy who bled Green and Gold while he was here, let's not forget his drafts were always started late in the first round. TT has had 2 drafts, last years where he also started late and this years where he started at #5.

                              Sherman's biggest drafting flaw, IMHO, is his seeming lack of interest for the second round. TT picked Collins (starter) and Muphy (unfortunate casualty), Colledge (prolly a starter) and Jennings (solid hopeful).

                              Like SC said, Sherm needed to move on, his growth was being stunted and so was the team's. I wish him well. He did all he could for Green Bay and he should be remembered in a respectful manner.

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