Favre

[Freak Out]

After all that had gone wrong we still had a chance to win it in OT if they play smart...and old #4 makes what is arguably his worst throw of the night. I have looked at it s few times and the DB has read Drivers route perfectly..he's just standing there waiting for it.

I know it does not matter now but there is Grant coming out of the backfield...just a pitch and catch away form 5-10 yard gain.

[motife]

Favre seem liked he just said "screw this" in that last Bears game. He doesn't like to play in the cold. Thompson to some extent is building a dome team. I think they'd be much better off building a power running attack with humongous offensive lines. Or hire June Jones as OC and move the team to Georgia.

[packinpatland]

Favre seem liked he just said "screw this" in that last Bears game. He doesn't like to play in the cold. Thompson to some extent is building a dome team. I think they'd be much better off building a power running attack with humongous offensive lines. Or hire June Jones as OC and move the team to Georgia.

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[motife]

Or hire June Jones as OC and move the team to Georgia.

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Mouse Davis. Run and Shoot offense. 1990's. Works good in domes and Arena Football. Not in Lambeau at 2 below.

[Packerarcher]

First of all let me say hi I don't post much I am more of a lurker. But after hearing all of this get rid off Bret talk I can't take it anymore. I am not a football expert by any means,but due to medical problems I am a stay at home dad. This means I watch a TON of football and football related shows. All I can say guys and girls is there ain't to many better or even equal to old number 4 even at his age. You can't discount his reliablity,over half of gettin the job done is being there week in and out to gwt the job done. Another thing is everyone says he can't play in the cold. People even in Greenbay this weather is the exception not the rule. I spend a lot of time outdoors year round and even with todays clothing functioning in weather like that is tough. Also why would you build a team for weather like this,it is so infrequent yes even in Wi that it would be a waste. I feel alot of blame for this game should go on the coaching staff. The packers were not simply out played they were very out coached. Inow several of you agree with this so how come no one has been calling for MCcarthy's head like you have Favre's. They both were partially responsible for the loss. But they also both were the reason we were there to lose to begin with.

[Bretsky]

Walking out of the stadium after the loss I witnessed some moron screaming how worthless Favre was and how he should retire; my gut told me to let him have it but my better judgment told me it would not be worth my breath.

MM is a good coach who coached a terrible game Sunday. He had a great season. Holmgren was outcoached at times; it happens to everyone.

It just sucks that this had to end our season.

[MJZiggy]

Nice post Packerarcher. Maybe they're not calling for M3's head because they see this more like a rookie mistake he's gotta learn from. He doesn't learn, they'll be calling for his head next time. I think Brett should hang around and take one more shot at it. We know Brett can get us here. We've gotten a hint that Rodgers might be good and he might. We know Brett is good and if HE feels he isn't then he's said he'd rather retire than play too long. I believe him.

[Packers4Ever]

If the Packers had had a running game, and if Al Harris had been able to cover Plaxico Burress, I don't think anyone would be worried about what Favre's face looked like before the game.

Bingo.

Double bingo...McCarthy admitted afterwards that he was not committed to the run. Giants were even though they didn't run that well early. McCarthy is ambivalent when it comes to running the ball. As McCarthy would say: "That needs to be fixed".

There! That's what I've been waiting to see, Coach admitting not choosing to use the run when it's worked so well week after week for how long now? Will someone please explain WHY he gave up using our #1 RB, when he's been piling up yardage for weeks? And - while we're on it - has the blitz been discarded and why? Seems it's missing frequently, no wonder Brett barely had time to scan the field last night - unlike Eli Manning who had all the time in the world to make his choice.
This whole topic was under discussion today on ESPN, I believe on the 'Mike and Mike Show.'
SO - why weren't adjustments made during half-time, isn't that the logical time to make changes?

I guess I'd figured we'd be seeing something along the lines of the Seattle game again, minus the snow.

[b bulldog]

Nobody was talking at all where we were exiting the stadium. Favre had a off day as did Brady on Sunday. In Brett's case, he had some bad passes into triple coverage but he played as well as the rest of the team. IMO, it was a total team loss. I don't think we are a tough team, that is disappointing.

[packinpatland]

First of all let me say hi I don't post much I am more of a lurker. But after hearing all of this get rid off Bret talk I can't take it anymore. I am not a football expert by any means,but due to medical problems I am a stay at home dad. This means I watch a TON of football and football related shows. All I can say guys and girls is there ain't to many better or even equal to old number 4 even at his age. You can't discount his reliablity,over half of gettin the job done is being there week in and out to gwt the job done. Another thing is everyone says he can't play in the cold. People even in Greenbay this weather is the exception not the rule. I spend a lot of time outdoors year round and even with todays clothing functioning in weather like that is tough. Also why would you build a team for weather like this,it is so infrequent yes even in Wi that it would be a waste. I feel alot of blame for this game should go on the coaching staff. The packers were not simply out played they were very out coached. Inow several of you agree with this so how come no one has been calling for MCcarthy's head like you have Favre's. They both were partially responsible for the loss. But they also both were the reason we were there to lose to begin with.

Welcome..........I like what you say.

[b bulldog]

A team debacle

[Deputy Nutz]

So is the consensus that Favre played just fine last night, and that other factors are to blame for our offense struggling? I'd like to hear as many opinions on this as possible.

Favre played below average last night; he had some misreads and some bad throws. He was out of rhythym.

MM didn't help him one bit. On a night when the five wide and quick hitters could have exposed a weak Giants secondary, Green Bay chose to keep their RB's and TE's in to pass block way too often. They must have thought our OL could not handle the Giants DL one on one.

Honestly, who didn't play poorly last night ?

The OL run blocking was horrid
The DL rushing Defense was well below average and the pass rush was horrid
Harris stunk but when you give Eli Manning enough time to count 99 BOTTLES OF BEER ON THE WALL all the way down to ONE BOTTLE left the secondary is pretty much hosed anyways.

Bigby and Poppinga looked good. Crosby was alright.

But other than that the team, Favre included, did not play well

I still disagree with the offensive line being horrid. There was only one maybe two plays where Grant was actually held to a loss on the play. The run blocking wasn't great, but the fact that the coaching staff only ran the ball 13 times and Grant's foul play I tend to say the offensive line really didn't get a legit opportunity to run the football successfully.

[b bulldog]

Oline pass protected pretty well, the run blocking on the other hand was not up to task.

[Packerarcher]

Ziggy,sorry I just don't think Rodgers will be any good,well maybe he will be ok talent wise but I think he is a puss. But it could be that I am a little spoiled by having Iron Man Favre at the helm for so long.

[b bulldog]

Nobody can say for sure in regards to anything when it comes to Rodgers.