No. 4 Should Have Been At Mini-Camp, If He's Still A Leader

[son of a vic]

There is absolutely not one good reason, for Favre not being present at this past weekend's minicamp. Is it too much to ask for the figurehead of the Packer franchise, to walk through a few drills, and stand around on the sidelines, getting to know some of the newer faces on the team? Isn't there a new offense to learn? Or does Brett just figure he'll keep throwing into triple coverage like he did under the former coach. Does he need to throw fastballs around the practice field? No, he does not. But by being physically present with THE TEAM, he shows the younger players that he is not above them, and will work hard WITH THEM, to win football games.
I question his willingness to do everthing that it takes, to lead this current group of young players into the season. His comments referring to "not changing the way he plays" shows that he refuses to acknowledge he's not the QB that won 3 MVP'S. He does need to change, and the excuses need to stop.
Before you respond with the rapid fire, anti- Favre, hatred filled, cuss laden posts, let me say I WANT Favre to be the heart and soul of this team. He just doesn't give me much of a reason to believe it can happen, based on his actions on and off the field the last few seasons.
I'm not so sure it wouldn't be in the best interest of the Packers and Brett, to open up the starting QB position in training camp, to light a fire under his ass. He is currently way too complacent, to be the fearless leader, that he once was.

[Homer Jay]

America is a wonderful country. Everyone is free to have their opinion. I disagree completely with yours, but thats OK. I have read in a couple spots that MM wanted to be able to work with Rodgers more this camp and so suggested Brett Favre take it off. If you have some proof that isn't true, I'd be interested to see it.

Brett Favre being in a 3 day mini camp in May will have absolutely no affect on how well the Packers do this fall. That is my opinion.

[son of a vic]

He didn't need to be there to throw another 5 yard slant. He needed to be there to show he's part of the team, and that he wants to improve his play this season. He needs to learn the new offense, just like everyone else does. Not showing up, makes him look like a prima donna, and that's not good for the chemistry of the team.

[packrulz]

The thing is if Brett starts throwing too early he has developed tendonitis in the past, and it bothered him all year. He could hang out with the players but the rooks have a lot to learn and they'll meet him soon enough. Plus, it's great to let A-Rod be the man and run the offense on his own for a while. I don't think it's a big deal.

[son of a vic]

It's no big deal when he throws 30 interceptions either. All those injuries are to blame.

[Rastak]

I was a bit surprised he wasn't there. What exactly is the negative to having him there?

Not my comentary but PFT's.......


====================================\\LORD FAVRE CATCHING MORE FLAK

There's plenty of chatter in league circles regarding the failure of Packers quarterback Brett Favre to appear at or participate in the team's weekend minicamp.

Sure, it's "voluntary." But that word has been rendered meaningless over the past five years. Voluntary minicamps are now "voluntary" only in the sense that a guy can't be fined for not attending. The players who believe in the cause and who intend to do their best to contribute for the coming season are expected to be there.

And where else is full participation more important than in Green Bay, where the team is coming off of a disastrous 4-12 season and breaking in a new coaching staff?

And why wouldn't Favre want to be there, especially if this very well could be his last season? He has the rest of his life to ride his tractor and play golf. (Maybe he can find a way to combine the two endeavors.) If he doesn't have a burning desire to soak in the final weeks and months of his pro football experience, maybe he should have retired.

There are other reasons for Favre to be there. Last season, he stayed away from much of the offseason workouts -- and look at the results. A career-high 29 interceptions.

Even if there's no correlation between his lack of preseason reps and his poor performance when the games counted, we always thought that pro athletes looked for ways to make changes after suffering through a bad season, if for no reasons other than superstition. This year, Favre really isn't doing anything much differently than a year ago.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the younger players need to see their on-field leader buying in to the new staff and the new zone blocking schemes and anything else that is different from a year ago. It will make it easier for them to sign off on the system, and it will make them less likely to view 2006 as the Favre farewell tour, where winning games is secondary to kissing Brett's butt.

As one league source opined to us, "The front office and coaching staff have no balls, and they are just feeding this guy's massive ego."

Based on the past four months, it's hard not to agree.

[Rastak]

Before you guys rip me a new asshole I don't think it's a huge deal. Just very surprised as Florio is I guess. Favre will be fine.

[Oscar]

I know Favre is THE center of attention.. at all times... He wasn't the only one not at camp. I think things are gonna work out.

[mraynrand]

The problem with the off-season these days is that there is too much of it. It gives you all kinds of time to magnify little things into big things, if you are so inclined. I bet guys like Horning or McGee laugh their asses off about all the whoop-dee-do regarding a frickin' mini camp. It's a non-issue for the most part, unless you've got extra time on your hands to kick it around. Wasn't this also the extra camp that McCarthy got because he's a new coach? *Yawn*

[Homer Jay]

Again, the last quote I read from McCarthy was he asked Brett Favre to skip this mini camp so he could concentrate on Aaron Rodgers. Until I see proof that isn't true I will consider this another non-story conjured up by media and people looking for reasons to bad mouth Favre.

[son of a vic]

So is it necassary for Favre to show up for training camp? He has played this silly game for 15 years you know. He should just stay in ol' Miss until the Saturday before the first game in September. He has thrown every pass there is to throw, and handed the ball off thousands of times. I mean really, what can the guy gain by practicing?

He's earned the right to not work as hard as the other lowlifes on the team. It's good to be the King.

[Guiness]

Oh, oh, let me be the first!

I can't believe this was posted over an hour ago, and no one has

Told Son of Vic to Shut The Hell UP!

Come on guys - he left JSO because they're such putzs, he was the altar boy in the buch. He missed getting told off when he was out of line. If we don't abuse him a bit, he'll leave here too!

[Rastak]

The problem with the off-season these days is that there is too much of it. It gives you all kinds of time to magnify little things into big things, if you are so inclined. I bet guys like Horning or McGee laugh their asses off about all the whoop-dee-do regarding a frickin' mini camp. It's a non-issue for the most part, unless you've got extra time on your hands to kick it around. Wasn't this also the extra camp that McCarthy got because he's a new coach? *Yawn*

With all do respect, the NFL is far more complicated (for better or worse) than it used to be. Yes he got an extra camp because new coaches usually install a new offense and defense and the players need to learn it. So the NFL allows an extra camp to help the players.

[Rastak]

Oh, oh, let me be the first!

I can't believe this was posted over an hour ago, and no one has

Told Son of Vic to Shut The Hell UP!

Come on guys - he left JSO because they're such putzs, he was the altar boy in the buch. He missed getting told off when he was out of line. If we don't abuse him a bit, he'll leave here too!

SOV is a fine poster....extremely dry sense of humor.,.and his bookmobile nascar reference was one of the best ever.....

[son of a vic]

Mike M. "Hey Brett, no need for you to come to this mini-camp, it will give Aaron Rodgers more reps with the no.1 offense. Just stay home and relax."

Brett -- " Relax, are you f'n kidding me? Iv'e been sitting around a half a frickin' year pissed about the way I stunk it up last year. I want to learn as much as I can about this new system. I want to be there, and I will be there, because it's my duty as the leader of this team. I don't give a shit if I'm just holding a clipboard and studying the playbook, I'm not going to skip out on my responsibilty to this franchise that pays me 10 million dollars a year."


Thee above is what we should be reading about in the papers, instead of why there's no need for the leader to make his presence known.
You guys can kiss Brett's ass, but I refuse.