No. 4 Should Have Been At Mini-Camp, If He's Still A Leader

[Scott Campbell]

Always the joker, freshly minted head coach Brad Childress asks director of media relations Vicky Cartright where the Viking trophy case is.

[Scott Campbell]

Coach Childress explains the new Viking dress code to probable starter Brad Johnson, but thanks him for showing up to mini camp in the best shape of his career.

[Rastak]

Coach Childress explains the new Viking dress code to probable starter Brad Johnson, but thanks him for showing up to mini camp in the best shape of his career.

You should find some shots of that dude in Mary Hartman Mary Hartman...I think he's a dead wringer for that guy.

[Scott Campbell]

New to the state, coach Childress was initially confused by the term Golden Gopher.

[Scott Campbell]

Lifelong Viking fan Sven Norseman shows Coach Childress the franchises unique version of a Superbowl trophy.

[Homer Jay]

pack4ever wrote: "Again, the last quote I read from McCarthy was he asked Brett Favre to skip this mini camp so he could concentrate on Aaron Rodgers. Until I see proof that isn't true I will consider this another non-story conjure"


The only problem is that the recent statement by MM was after one in which he made it sound clearly and completely to have been Favre's decision. That made me feel that the recent one was the "company line" to make it all sound good.

Just my impression.

I'm looking for some quotes that support that and I can't find any. Can you show me some quotes that make it seem to be clearly Favre's decision?

[MJZiggy]

Couldn't it possibly have been by mutual agreement? Favre's got something going on and mentions it to M3 who tells him not to worry about it, he wants to work with Rodgers anyway? Or perhaps M3 mentions something to Favre about "how much have you been throwing? Not at all? Why don't you do the first camp and we'll keep you out of the second, kinda ease you into things?" to which Favre says great, I wanna spend some time with my kids anyway...

It doesn't have to be either/or.

[Noodle]

And for those needing some sort of confirmation that skipping practice was Favre's idea, I provide you the following from a story appearing May 8 before the current "this was M3's idea" spin: http://www.packersnews.com/archives/...5926182.shtml:

"While McCarthy didn’t say so, he implied the decision was Favre’s. Last year, former coach Mike Sherman excused Favre from both minicamps. Although attendance at the next minicamp is optional, the majority of the players are expected to attend.

“Brett’s plan is that he will not participate in the next minicamp,” McCarthy said. “He will not be here.”

Pack4Ever -- You must have missed my prior post on this. Don't you think M3 was pretty clear (or as clear as he could be) when he said "Brett's plan"; not "my plan" or even "our plan" but "Brett's plan."

Besides, M3 would have to be brain dead not to want his no. 1 QB in camp. I can understand the folks who think this is no big deal, but it is absurd to think this is anything but Favre's idea to miss camp.

[Scott Campbell]

Back at the Viking training facility, Brad shows off the results of his offseason training regimine. Looking pretty buff Mr. Johnson!

[Homer Jay]

3 practices in May. No pads, no helmets, no tackling. Until proven otherwise, I'll stick with the "company line" that it was MM's decision for Brett Favre not to attend. Go ahead and prove me wrong. For those hoping Brett fails this year, this is just more ammo for their "I told you so" rants they hope to be able to write later. "Apologists" may say # 4 can do no wrong. I'm saying this mini camp and Brett Favre not attending (no matter whose decision it was) is incredibly overblown. Even ESPN didn't waste any time on this "story."

[Patler]

pack4ever wrote: "Again, the last quote I read from McCarthy was he asked Brett Favre to skip this mini camp so he could concentrate on Aaron Rodgers. Until I see proof that isn't true I will consider this another non-story conjure"


The only problem is that the recent statement by MM was after one in which he made it sound clearly and completely to have been Favre's decision. That made me feel that the recent one was the "company line" to make it all sound good.

Just my impression.

I'm looking for some quotes that support that and I can't find any. Can you show me some quotes that make it seem to be clearly Favre's decision?

It was in an article at the end of the last camp. Someone quoted it in a thread on this board within the last couple days. To be honest, I have no inclination or desire to look for it myself. JSOnline has made it much more difficult and time-consuming to look for articles since they redesigned their site. I used to be able to pull up a full-years index of Packer articles on one screen. It also went back something like seven years. Their site is a pain in the butt now, and it goes back only about a year.

Sorry to not be more helpful!

[Patler]

Looks like Noodle did our work for us!

[Homer Jay]

First I agree about JSO and I'd say the same thing about packers.com.

I think the quote that is supposed to change my mind that MM said "Bretts plan is that he will not participate"..... Isn't it possible that MM and BF decided together that he wouldn't attend the camp or that MM asked him not to and MM saying "Bretts plan....." signified nothing?

You may be right, I have certainly been wrong before, but Im going to stick with what was said and not what somebody may have meant.

[MJZiggy]

First I agree about JSO and I'd say the same thing about packers.com.

I think the quote that is supposed to change my mind that MM said "Bretts plan is that he will not participate"..... Isn't it possible that MM and BF decided together that he wouldn't attend the camp or that MM asked him not to and MM saying "Bretts plan....." signified nothing?

You may be right, I have certainly been wrong before, but Im going to stick with what was said and not what somebody may have meant.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

[billy_oliver880]

You know news has got to be slow if the most popular topic is the fact that someone didn't make it to a voluntary camp.