No. 4 Should Have Been At Mini-Camp, If He's Still A Leader

[Murphy37]

Damm this thread has legs. Nice work. Now you two kids who are having a slap fight, GBM and SOV, just calm down and take some deep breaths. Your'e both great for this forum. I got no probs with the photo's, and if Vic does who cares? Victor is a villain, and a damn good one. He brings up the topics that stir things up. If ya ain't got the thick skin to tangle with him, stay outta his threads. Vic, you really dissapointed me. You started a fight over photos? That's weak teenage girl bullshit. You're better than that. Now both of you go back to your corners and don't come back untill you learned your lessons.

[jack's smirking revenge]

When Donald Driver was asked the question if Favre was "uncoachable" he laughed and said Brett Favre was the most coachable QB in the NFL. What's Donald missing that the GB fans are more in tune with???

"uncoachable" is such a bad word to use. It means nothing but negative. It leads one to believe the player is unruly and doesn't try to do what's right. Favre has a style......and if you want to say he won't change his style (which he has said) is fine. But to say the guy is uncoachable is so wrong, in my opinion.

I see your point and I partially agree. Uncoachable is a difficult word to use with Brett...or with any player at his stage of the game. Once a player has been in the league for ten or more years and is on the path to the HoF, there's little more they can learn. Perhaps we should consider what it means to "coach". Dictionary.com says coaching is "To train or tutor or to act as a trainer or tutor". Well, if Favre won't change his style, which is done through training, then how is he being "coached"? If anything, he is being guided through the implementation of new offensive schemes and with the integration of new players.

Perhaps being "uncoachable" isn't fully negative. Once someone is an expert at a trade or a skill, they no longer need training to do a job or to perform. Sure, Favre can take criticism and suggestions, and he will incorporate them if he sees fit, but he's Brett Favre. He's truly not going to change his style. He's a gunslinger. He's a risk-taker. He's a warrior. He's not going to change his throwing motion. He's not going to stray from throwing the INT. At this age, he's not going to change how he reacts to pressure. He's probably not going to read a defense any differently. His experience and the coaching of his past has made him the player he is today.

So, if he's unwilling to change his "style", which is really an ambiguous term that covers a lot of ground with respect to training, how is he coachable? Any QB can read a team's assessment of the defense they're going to face. Armchair QBs--like you and me--know the strengths of every defense in the NFL. With all of the media coverage and information, there aren't many secrets in the NFL.

I guess the question comes down to "what is there left to coach Brett on"?

tyler

[GrnBay007]

When Donald Driver was asked the question if Favre was "uncoachable" he laughed and said Brett Favre was the most coachable QB in the NFL. What's Donald missing that the GB fans are more in tune with???

"uncoachable" is such a bad word to use. It means nothing but negative. It leads one to believe the player is unruly and doesn't try to do what's right. Favre has a style......and if you want to say he won't change his style (which he has said) is fine. But to say the guy is uncoachable is so wrong, in my opinion.

Actually wasn't that William Henderson that said that during the draft?

I think you are right Rastak......Henderson, when he owned ESPN reporters...lol .....another of my heroes!!

[GrnBay007]

I find it reprehensible the way you people pick fights with Vic.

LOL Pot, meet kettle.

[Badgepack]

I thought this was a Randy Wright thread?

[MJZiggy]

I thought it was Gary Wright. Now I can't get that song outta my head.

[son of a vic]

Where do I begin. I'm supposed to respond to GBM, when she doesn't even address the topic at hand. I recall the topic being Favre should have been at camp. She wants to know why I'm not questioning why some other players weren't there. Simple, because Brett is the Green Bay Packers right now. With all the turmoil and change going on, he is the one thing that should be a sure thing. But it's not ,because of his off-season yo-yo fest.
If I start a topic in the fall about a Packer loss, is GBM going to bust my balls because I'm not talking about one of the other 14 teams that lost that week? Get a grip woman. If you want to bash my threads, go right ahead, but don't complain when I do the same. If my memory is correct, YOU are the one that started this little skirmish, so don't act like you are the innocent little girl, who I like to pick on. You like to take pictures, great.
I like to discuss real issues with this football team. You do your thing, and I'll do mine. Good luck, and good riddance!

[Murphy37]

Hey Vic, I like to take pictures, what do you say you come over later? Are you into glamour shots? VIC AT NIGHT IS BACK YALL

[son of a vic]

My beloved says I need to practice my jump shot a little more often.

Looks like shutterbug is hidin' under the rug. No sweat, stay focused on your "Packer in baggy shorts" photo shoot. You keep up the good work.

[Murphy37]

I sense some sexual tension between you two. I bet it would be magic between the sheets.

Speaking of Sheets, he's turning into KerryWood. Fragile, very Fragile.

[son of a vic]

I'd dedicate my life to the priesthood, in hopes of getting the Pope to declare Rickie Week's glove, the holiest earthly possesion on the face of god's earth, before I'd saddle up that pony.