If he did more than tear an ACL that is bad, bad news.
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sEE mICHAEL bUSH FROM Louisville, he went in round 4 with a broken leg. Know your stats, a kid that runs a 4.27 with his size will get drafted before round 7, trust me.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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A broken leg is far less severe than what Ike just did. And, thanks for proving my point. Bush prior to that was considered to be a 1st or second..so he dropped 2 rounds. Ike is a 3rd or 4th..so he will drop to 6th at best.Originally posted by b bulldogsEE mICHAEL bUSH FROM Louisville, he went in round 4 with a broken leg. Know your stats, a kid that runs a 4.27 with his size will get drafted before round 7, trust me.
Plus, he hasn't run a 4.27 yet..or at least for scouts. If he had, he wouldn't have been working on a sled..which is used to improve speed.
If Ike and Drew are smart, they will withdraw from the draft. I don't know if he can or the procedure, but better to be a free agent this year..or reenter the draft next year.
Tell you what, if Ike is drafted earlier than the 4th round i'll put in my sig file "Hail to the victors, Michigan is the best."
I'll expect the same from you.
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The later rounds are impossible to predict. At that point, it's really just who falls to you and who you like best.Originally posted by PartialPlenty of scouts are wrong. How many guys said James Jones would make a nice FA pick-up but a bad player to draft?!?!??!?
James Jones ended up being a 3rd round pick, yes. I didn't see many scouts saying he'd be a Undrafted FA. Most said that we could of got him later on Day 2.
Predicting the top 10 is a lot easier. Sure you have guys that sink- A-Rod, Brady Quinn, etc. But there are always guys that are guaranteed to go Top 10. This year, off the top of my head, DMC, Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey, Chris Long, and Matt Ryan. Maybe Brian Brohm, but not for sure.
The last big surprise top 10 pick was Donte Whitner going 8th to the Bills. Turned out to be a great player.
Ike didn't have any attributes to make scouts say "let's take a chance on him" in the top 10. He's fast. That's it. Ahmad Carroll was fast. Look what happened to him."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley
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Ike has more than speed. But, you are correct, not a top ten pick.Originally posted by BallHawkThe later rounds are impossible to predict. At that point, it's really just who falls to you and who you like best.Originally posted by PartialPlenty of scouts are wrong. How many guys said James Jones would make a nice FA pick-up but a bad player to draft?!?!??!?
James Jones ended up being a 3rd round pick, yes. I didn't see many scouts saying he'd be a Undrafted FA. Most said that we could of got him later on Day 2.
Predicting the top 10 is a lot easier. Sure you have guys that sink- A-Rod, Brady Quinn, etc. But there are always guys that are guaranteed to go Top 10. This year, off the top of my head, DMC, Jake Long, Glenn Dorsey, Chris Long, and Matt Ryan. Maybe Brian Brohm, but not for sure.
The last big surprise top 10 pick was Donte Whitner going 8th to the Bills. Turned out to be a great player.
Ike didn't have any attributes to make scouts say "let's take a chance on him" in the top 10. He's fast. That's it. Ahmad Carroll was fast. Look what happened to him.
He woulda needed a Mamula like combine, and even then GM's are very reluctant to draft workout warrior types.
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Ike IMO was one of the top 5 CB's entering the draft and probably would have ended up as a late round 1st or early round 2nd.
I'd love for TT to study where he thinks Ike will get drafted and grab him in the middle rounds; be a great guy to stash for the future as our CB's ageTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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Well, you can have your opinion, but it doesn't jibe with any draft guru/scout.Originally posted by BretskyIke IMO was one of the top 5 CB's entering the draft and probably would have ended up as a late round 1st or early round 2nd.
I'd love for TT to study where he thinks Ike will get drafted and grab him in the middle rounds; be a great guy to stash for the future as our CB's age
Top rated (in my personal order):
1. Mike Jenkins
2. Leodis McClevin
3. Antoine Cason
4. Aqib Talib
5. Justin King
6. Tracy Porter
7. Terrell Thomas
8. Domique Rodgers-Cromartie
9. DeJuan Tribble
10. Dwight Lowery
Ike would fall somewhere in the bottom 5.
Not to mention that he still has to face the trial.
I'd have no problem taking him with a late round pick. Worth a gamble. Not like with this team that many low round picks are gonna make it.
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I thought he plea'd out of the trial ? Did he get in more trouble ? I'm not sure if his maturity had him ready for the NFL. I think that was part of the reason he was not as consistent this year. But the dude is loaded with abilityTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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So were taking about a DB who just tore up their knee AND has to go to trial? A criminal trial? What kind of a trial? Sweet.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsWell, you can have your opinion, but it doesn't jibe with any draft guru/scout.Originally posted by BretskyIke IMO was one of the top 5 CB's entering the draft and probably would have ended up as a late round 1st or early round 2nd.
I'd love for TT to study where he thinks Ike will get drafted and grab him in the middle rounds; be a great guy to stash for the future as our CB's age
Top rated (in my personal order):
1. Mike Jenkins
2. Leodis McClevin
3. Antoine Cason
4. Aqib Talib
5. Justin King
6. Tracy Porter
7. Terrell Thomas
8. Domique Rodgers-Cromartie
9. DeJuan Tribble
10. Dwight Lowery
Ike would fall somewhere in the bottom 5.
Not to mention that he still has to face the trial.
I'd have no problem taking him with a late round pick. Worth a gamble. Not like with this team that many low round picks are gonna make it.C.H.U.D.
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From the JSO blog story:
Sorry Partial, but I'm going with the NFL executive who just happens to support my thoughts than you and your fanboy ramblings.The injury will all but eliminate Ikegwuonu's chances of being selected April 26-27 in the National Football League draft. It's possible a team might take him in a late round and bring along for 2009.
"He's screwed now," an executive in personnel for an NFL team said. "He wasn't going to be that high of a pick, anyway. Fourth round.
"I blame the agent for talking the kid into coming out. Stupid. Because he wasn't a first-day player.""You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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Are you serious? You didn't know about his trial.Originally posted by Freak OutSo were taking about a DB who just tore up their knee AND has to go to trial? A criminal trial? What kind of a trial? Sweet.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsWell, you can have your opinion, but it doesn't jibe with any draft guru/scout.Originally posted by BretskyIke IMO was one of the top 5 CB's entering the draft and probably would have ended up as a late round 1st or early round 2nd.
I'd love for TT to study where he thinks Ike will get drafted and grab him in the middle rounds; be a great guy to stash for the future as our CB's age
Top rated (in my personal order):
1. Mike Jenkins
2. Leodis McClevin
3. Antoine Cason
4. Aqib Talib
5. Justin King
6. Tracy Porter
7. Terrell Thomas
8. Domique Rodgers-Cromartie
9. DeJuan Tribble
10. Dwight Lowery
Ike would fall somewhere in the bottom 5.
Not to mention that he still has to face the trial.
I'd have no problem taking him with a late round pick. Worth a gamble. Not like with this team that many low round picks are gonna make it.
Ike and his brother (depending on the story) were busted at Northern Illinois for stealing an xbox from a house/apt. Trial has been delayed for awhile. Ike lawyers were trying to get stuff thrown out.
From what i've heard, the xbox was actually theirs, and they went to retrieve it.
If convicted he faces 4 years. Prolly won't get it, but still.
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Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsAre you serious? You didn't know about his trial.Originally posted by Freak OutSo were taking about a DB who just tore up their knee AND has to go to trial? A criminal trial? What kind of a trial? Sweet.Originally posted by Tyrone BiggunsWell, you can have your opinion, but it doesn't jibe with any draft guru/scout.Originally posted by BretskyIke IMO was one of the top 5 CB's entering the draft and probably would have ended up as a late round 1st or early round 2nd.
I'd love for TT to study where he thinks Ike will get drafted and grab him in the middle rounds; be a great guy to stash for the future as our CB's age
Top rated (in my personal order):
1. Mike Jenkins
2. Leodis McClevin
3. Antoine Cason
4. Aqib Talib
5. Justin King
6. Tracy Porter
7. Terrell Thomas
8. Domique Rodgers-Cromartie
9. DeJuan Tribble
10. Dwight Lowery
Ike would fall somewhere in the bottom 5.
Not to mention that he still has to face the trial.
I'd have no problem taking him with a late round pick. Worth a gamble. Not like with this team that many low round picks are gonna make it.
Ike and his brother (depending on the story) were busted at Northern Illinois for stealing an xbox from a house/apt. Trial has been delayed for awhile. Ike lawyers were trying to get stuff thrown out.
From what i've heard, the xbox was actually theirs, and they went to retrieve it.
If convicted he faces 4 years. Prolly won't get it, but still.
I knew about the trial, but I thought that was already behind him from listening to TMJ late in the season. They were speaking as it was a done deal that there was a plea bargain for some probations, but they were probably full of shit since it hasn't occured yet
Honestly, this is pretty sad
The guy should have stayed in school. When he was considering it you could tell he wanted to turn pro after he noted how hard it was to be a "Student/Athlete". He was clearly looking for the riches and was sick of the challenge of school.
He noted many times he would only leave if the NFL considered him to be a sure thing round 1-3 prospect. But he wanted to go.
A sad choice is how this is turning out; completely opposite of Lee EvansTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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