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  • #46
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by Freak Out
    Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
    Originally posted by Bretsky
    Ike IMO was one of the top 5 CB's entering the draft and probably would have ended up as a late round 1st or early round 2nd.

    I'd love for TT to study where he thinks Ike will get drafted and grab him in the middle rounds; be a great guy to stash for the future as our CB's age
    Well, you can have your opinion, but it doesn't jibe with any draft guru/scout.

    Top rated (in my personal order):
    1. Mike Jenkins
    2. Leodis McClevin
    3. Antoine Cason
    4. Aqib Talib
    5. Justin King
    6. Tracy Porter
    7. Terrell Thomas
    8. Domique Rodgers-Cromartie
    9. DeJuan Tribble
    10. Dwight Lowery

    Ike would fall somewhere in the bottom 5.

    Not to mention that he still has to face the trial.

    I'd have no problem taking him with a late round pick. Worth a gamble. Not like with this team that many low round picks are gonna make it.
    So were taking about a DB who just tore up their knee AND has to go to trial? A criminal trial? What kind of a trial? Sweet.
    Are you serious? You didn't know about his trial.

    Ike and his brother (depending on the story) were busted at Northern Illinois for stealing an xbox from a house/apt. Trial has been delayed for awhile. Ike lawyers were trying to get stuff thrown out.

    From what i've heard, the xbox was actually theirs, and they went to retrieve it.

    If convicted he faces 4 years. Prolly won't get it, but still.
    Fuck man....I live in Alaska not Wisconsin.
    C.H.U.D.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Freak Out
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      Originally posted by Freak Out
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      Originally posted by Bretsky
      Ike IMO was one of the top 5 CB's entering the draft and probably would have ended up as a late round 1st or early round 2nd.

      I'd love for TT to study where he thinks Ike will get drafted and grab him in the middle rounds; be a great guy to stash for the future as our CB's age
      Well, you can have your opinion, but it doesn't jibe with any draft guru/scout.

      Top rated (in my personal order):
      1. Mike Jenkins
      2. Leodis McClevin
      3. Antoine Cason
      4. Aqib Talib
      5. Justin King
      6. Tracy Porter
      7. Terrell Thomas
      8. Domique Rodgers-Cromartie
      9. DeJuan Tribble
      10. Dwight Lowery

      Ike would fall somewhere in the bottom 5.

      Not to mention that he still has to face the trial.

      I'd have no problem taking him with a late round pick. Worth a gamble. Not like with this team that many low round picks are gonna make it.
      So were taking about a DB who just tore up their knee AND has to go to trial? A criminal trial? What kind of a trial? Sweet.
      Are you serious? You didn't know about his trial.

      Ike and his brother (depending on the story) were busted at Northern Illinois for stealing an xbox from a house/apt. Trial has been delayed for awhile. Ike lawyers were trying to get stuff thrown out.

      From what i've heard, the xbox was actually theirs, and they went to retrieve it.

      If convicted he faces 4 years. Prolly won't get it, but still.
      Fuck man....I live in Alaska not Wisconsin.
      That excuse might have worked in 1908, but not now.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Ballboy
        Hope he was at least smart enough to at least buy an insurance policy on his future earnings before he started all this.
        whups!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
          Leave school to avoid injury. Get injured training for NFL.

          Definition of irony.
          Too bad you couldn't have explained that to Alanis Morissette.
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          • #50
            Originally posted by Iron Mike
            Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
            Leave school to avoid injury. Get injured training for NFL.

            Definition of irony.
            Too bad you couldn't have explained that to Alanis Morissette.
            It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife

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            • #51
              Too bad for Ike. I would take a flyer on him though..Why not take him with a seventh? Those guys have a tough time making the team anyways, might as well spend the pick on a guy with enough talent to be a first day pick..Let him rehab in '08 and see what we have in '09..Who knows, we could have ourselves a steal..He is a very good corner. Not a great one, but very good.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by BF4MVP
                Originally posted by Iron Mike
                Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
                Leave school to avoid injury. Get injured training for NFL.

                Definition of irony.
                Too bad you couldn't have explained that to Alanis Morissette.
                It's like 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife
                A black fly in your chardonnay is unfortunate.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by BF4MVP
                  Those guys have a tough time making the team anyways, might as well spend the pick on a guy with enough talent to be a first day pick.
                  You know who else has a tough time making the team? Corners with mid round talent who need a new knee, are going to need a year of intensive rehab at your expense, and are likely to never be the same player again.
                  "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                  • #54
                    Luckily for this kid he did get good representation in Rosenhaus. If Rosenhaus did his job Ike will likely have LLoyds of London like inurance, and hopefully some medical insurance to take care of the bills.

                    Bottom line he should pull out of the draft, rehab his knee and if he can get into football shape by next febuary and run at the combine if he is allowed or hold some personal workouts he may be a third, fourth round type selection.

                    Most likely scenerio he can end up forgetting about the NFL and get ready for the Canadian Football League.

                    I guess Ike has Partial to thank for this, Partial can you say, "JINKS"?

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                    • #55
                      He'll get drafted. He has too much size and showed too much potential during his time at Wisconsin to not be picked, even with the injury. He's probably no better than a 6th round pick though...but some team will pick him up and stick him on IR for a year.
                      My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                        Bottom line he should pull out of the draft, rehab his knee and if he can get into football shape by next febuary and run at the combine if he is allowed or hold some personal workouts he may be a third, fourth round type selection.
                        I disagree Nutz. If he pulls out of the draft, all medical expenses for his rehab come from his pocket. That will be costly.

                        He should remain in the draft and hope to get picked. If he catches on with a team, then all his medical expenses for rehab will be covered by the team.
                        My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by SkinBasket
                          You know who else has a tough time making the team? Corners with mid round talent who need a new knee, are going to need a year of intensive rehab at your expense, and are likely to never be the same player again.
                          The cost for rehab to the team is minimal...they've already got physicans on staff and plenty of equipment.

                          The cost is only an issue to Ike...paying for rehab out of his own pocket would be ridiculously expensive.

                          A guy with his size and who showed decent potential in college probably will be worth a late round flyer. Even with the injury, he still will have more upside potential than a lot of the other guys left in the 6th and 7th round.
                          My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by The Leaper
                            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                            Bottom line he should pull out of the draft, rehab his knee and if he can get into football shape by next febuary and run at the combine if he is allowed or hold some personal workouts he may be a third, fourth round type selection.
                            I disagree Nutz. If he pulls out of the draft, all medical expenses for his rehab come from his pocket. That will be costly.

                            He should remain in the draft and hope to get picked. If he catches on with a team, then all his medical expenses for rehab will be covered by the team.
                            I was doing the math in a perfect world, and with a estimation that Rosenhaus took steps in his clients case to protect him if something like this happened. If he has the medical insurance now, and he goes in to the draft and gets signed in the 7th round for a 4 year 1.5 million dollar deal. He is on a team great medical staff, but if he came back in the draft the next year with a healthy knee and moved himself into the fourth round he is now looking at a significantly better deal, one that would pay him more than the 100,000 dollars the injury cost. Anyway, he is still going to have to pay medical expense prior to the draft.

                            He should enter the draft and see what happens though. If he gets picked high enough, sign with the team, if he doesn't like where he was picked don't sign and go back in 2009.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by The Leaper
                              Originally posted by SkinBasket
                              You know who else has a tough time making the team? Corners with mid round talent who need a new knee, are going to need a year of intensive rehab at your expense, and are likely to never be the same player again.
                              The cost for rehab to the team is minimal...they've already got physicans on staff and plenty of equipment.

                              The cost is only an issue to Ike...paying for rehab out of his own pocket would be ridiculously expensive.

                              A guy with his size and who showed decent potential in college probably will be worth a late round flyer. Even with the injury, he still will have more upside potential than a lot of the other guys left in the 6th and 7th round.
                              This guy's knee is shredded, you are looking at a full two years before he could even be back to what he was in college. rehab may only take 9 months, but full recovery for an ACL is always said to take time for rehab and then a full season of football activities to regain strength and normalacy. Now your not only talking about an ACL, but an MCL and a Patella Tendon which is most likely shredded as well if the knee cap became displaced.

                              Sure there is some reward there. I am not questioning that. It just seems like a grueling process for both team and player.

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                              • #60
                                If he doesn't have medical insurance, I bet Alvarez will find a way to help him out. I hope so, anyway.

                                BTW, in preseason Alvarez was touting I. as the best cornerback in the country. Now, I know that's what athletic directors do, but Alvarez wouldn't say that if I. wasn't really talented. Things sure have gone wrong for that guy in the last 16 months.

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