Fred Davis of USC?

[b bulldog]

oNE MORE THING, 66% WOULD BE ON d IF HE WOULD EVEN START. wE HAVE MUCH BIGGER HOLES than our Sam backer.

[NewsBruin]

Is TE our highest priority or best pick for 1st round?

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At the senior bowl they are saying he isn't a legit 6'4" AND A FREAK IS A Vernon Davis, kellen Winslow type TE.

Well of those two freaks, one has yet to get more than 1,000 or 7 TDs and the other nearly killed himself on a bike (though Winslow has fantastic talent)

Just because a player has great measurables doesn't mean he's going to be a great player.

Give me a hard-working guy with good attributes over a freak anyday.

You're smoking crack if you don't think Kellen Winslow Jr. is a great player.

1 good season...in his 4th year.

That is a long time to wait.

I'd be just as happy with a non freak like Jason Witten.

He was good last year as well. 2 good years with 2 injured years.

[twoseven]

He would at best be a 66% of the time player.

Somebody has to be that 66% guy, are we not wanting every player to be the best possible we can put on the field? It's one thing to not want to pay Briggs to be that guy, but a 29th pick overall? How often is a CB at 29 seeing the field next year with Harris and Woodson still playing? Rivers, who I think will be long gone, is a tackling machine that covers a lot of ground. I would love seeing him even just 66% of the time.

You are so wrong. It would be terrible to have our #1 pick be out on the field for only 66% of the time.

I know for a fact that all of our previous picks always played way more than that.

..and we don't wat to make the mistake of paying that rookie part timer too much, let's trade down so we can save even more.

[twoseven]

oNE MORE THING, 66% WOULD BE ON d IF HE WOULD EVEN START. wE HAVE MUCH BIGGER HOLES than our Sam backer.

I get that part. What I am asking is how much time do you think ANY 29th overall pick is seeing the field on a 13-3 team? I think 0% that they would start is more accurate, save for a guard AND the Sam.

What are our much bigger holes that we would address in the first round? CB sure, but is that pick ousting Harris? Will a rook TE oust Lee or Franks? Is Grant's RB spot in danger by a rook? I agree with you in part, but I doubt any 29th pick will be better than what we have out there already, save for a guard. If TT takes a G in round one I think several might not like it.

A pick that could be made at 29 AND be an improvement could be at the Sam. That would be if Rivers actually slipped, though there might be another there that could do also. Sam's not as great of a need, but it COULD be improved at 29.

[twoseven]

Another player I fully expect to be gone by 29 is ILL RB Rashard Mendenhall, but if by some chance he slips I wouldn't mind seeing him on our roster.

[b bulldog]

I like Mendenhall but I also think OL might be a target on day one along with DB's for the future.

[run pMc]

Yeah, I'm a fan of Mendenhall.

Is TE our highest priority or best pick for 1st round?

This strikes at the heart of TT's strategy for drafting the BPA.

I'd like to see help in the secondary (CB or S) and on OL, but I wouldn't be surprised if TT drafts a player at some other spot. Depth at LB or someone to push Poppinga wouldn't make me stage a revolt.

Rivers will be gone. Davis is reported to be a little short for a TE which will cause him to drop, but he was a big part of USC offense, so I could see him going in the later stages of R1. Davis would help upgrade the TE spot IMO.

[The Leaper]

I doubt Davis goes in the first round. He's not a specimen. He's not going to post eye-popping number in workouts. He's a complete TE though...one who can both block and catch.

If he was available at our 2nd round pick, I'd consider him. He isn't a 1st rounder IMO.

[Deputy Nutz]

I like Mendenhall but I also think OL might be a target on day one along with DB's for the future.

I don't like Mendenhall, one good year in that offense just doesn't sell me as one that could be productive in the NFL. Sure he can catch passes, but he got absolutely clobbered agains USC. If he is supposed to be a first round talent he should have been able to make some plays.

The tight end for USC is really a no need player for the Packers. This draft isn't strong at the top but there are quite a few NFL caliber tight ends in this draft. Packers would look to groom a player into a contributer, rather than to spend a high pick on a contributer with Franks and Lee still in the mix.

Rivers from USC, intersting, hopefully he can play SAM because you don't move your 5th over all selection from two years ago to make room for the 30th selection of the draft. Besides Rivers would probably be gone any how. He is having a really nice Senior Bowl week and I am sure this guy times well. But in reality he is too small to play SAM with the Packers, maybe a Tampa Two scheme,

[Tyrone Bigguns]

tHANKS, 6'3" FOR A te IS SMALL, GAME, SET MATCH BUDDY!
oNE MORE THING, i NEVER SAID THAT DAVIS OR WINSLOW WERE GREAT, JUST CALLED THEM FREAKS, LOOK IT UP...PLEASE

First, that isn't small. You are high.

But you would need an accurate measurement of all TEs.

For example, rucker has been listed at 6'6", but the link provide clearly shows that rucker is a full 1.5 inches shorter.

So, in order to show that 6'3" is shorter, you would need to match him up with other TEs and show that they are really as tall as they listed. Cleary, it isn't so.

More to the point, 1 inch is nothing. Give me a break. You coudn't eyeball two guys and tell the difference tween 6'3" and 6'4". And certainly you woulnd't call one small.

BTW, plenty of good TEs that size (these all start): Baker, Cooley, Pollard, McMichael, Graham, Clark, Kleinsasser, Crumpler (six two), Jeff King, Wilcox, Johnson/Miller, Daniels, Dallas Clark, and Scaife.

So, Bulldog...approximately HALF the starting TEs in the league or the same exact size as Davis.

The bottom line is that most of the time TEs are not drafted high in the first round.

Thanks for playing.

Game, Set, Match.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I like Mendenhall but I also think OL might be a target on day one along with DB's for the future.

I don't like Mendenhall, one good year in that offense just doesn't sell me as one that could be productive in the NFL. Sure he can catch passes, but he got absolutely clobbered agains USC. If he is supposed to be a first round talent he should have been able to make some plays.

The tight end for USC is really a no need player for the Packers. This draft isn't strong at the top but there are quite a few NFL caliber tight ends in this draft. Packers would look to groom a player into a contributer, rather than to spend a high pick on a contributer with Franks and Lee still in the mix.

Rivers from USC, intersting, hopefully he can play SAM because you don't move your 5th over all selection from two years ago to make room for the 30th selection of the draft. Besides Rivers would probably be gone any how. He is having a really nice Senior Bowl week and I am sure this guy times well. But in reality he is too small to play SAM with the Packers, maybe a Tampa Two scheme,

Clobbered?

I don't know what game you were watching but it wasn't the USC game.

17 rushes for 155 yards and 1 td. 9.1 ypc with a 79 yard scamper. 5 receptions for 59 yards.

So, total yardage over 200 against arguably the best team in the nation.

I would hate to be your kid..."oh, you brought home an A...why wasn't it an A plus?"

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I agree with Tyrone about Mendenhall.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I agree with Tyrone about Mendenhall.

Hard to disagree with facts.

I don't know if he is our pick or if we should pick him, but to claim he didn't do anything against USC is hilarious.

[The Leaper]

Mendenhall is a beast. At this point, I don't see any chance of him being available when we pick...but stranger things have happened.