Depends. IF Favre retires, TT believes he has the heir apparent. If Favre returns, TT still has to believe that any vet he brings in is better than the player he's brought in to replace--AND he has to believe (and this is the tricky part) that the vet he brings in is better for the long-term health of the team than a player he could draft (a la Charles Woodson). Not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying it has to be right in TT's mind no matter what anyone else thinks and that there is the possibility that he may not go gangbusters and bring a lot of veterans in. If any.
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Originally posted by b bulldogCould someone please post this article in it's entirity
Bulldog, the JS article ran almost 3 full pages long,it would be difficult to
post. You might have a better chance checking your local drugstores, etc
to see if they have any leftovers, sometimes they do and will keep them
on the racks for a couple more days. Or maybe a neighbor has one.
One other suggestion in the article that I don't think I mentioned was
to fire Sanders.
Garbage ??Is it really a halo or
just a swelled head ?
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I haven't been a rat long enough to know where everyone stands on certain players, you name it. You WILL NOT find a bigger AJ fan than me. On another board I got tired of the relentless bs you would hear about Hawk being a bust, not making enough plays, you name it, simply because he wasn't standing out in a flashy way.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz?
My post was a sarcastic comment, and an automatic knee-jerking smartass reaction brought on by bad memories of those that do not see AJ for what he is, maybe the most solid and consistent player we have on defense. He may not be all over the place racking up big play stats, but at the end of the day when the grades are in, he's usually done his job as it was asked of him. Probably better than some care to realize. Patler pointing out that Collins may be more effective than we think he is when the numbers are analyzed just harkened me back to the arguments I used to have at the JSO home for juvenille delinquents with Hawk haters. Sorry to have confused you. I've yet to read any Hawk hater-esque posts here, so I probably shouldn't have posted the sarcasm. My apologies.
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I do know what an arbagegay ancay is !!Originally posted by RastakOriginally posted by Harlan Hucklebyarticleay is ostedpay in the arbagegay ancay.Originally posted by Packers4EverGarbage ??
HAHAHAHA......it all comes together now.
That was outstanding.
Is it really a halo or
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You and bulldog will undoubtedly hook up in future posts, twoseven. He's a wolverine to the bone, so he's genetically predetermined to hate on Hawk...Originally posted by twosevenI haven't been a rat long enough to know where everyone stands on certain players, you name it. You WILL NOT find a bigger AJ fan than me. On another board I got tired of the relentless bs you would hear about Hawk being a bust, not making enough plays, you name it, simply because he wasn't standing out in a flashy way.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz?
My post was a sarcastic comment, and an automatic knee-jerking smartass reaction brought on by bad memories of those that do not see AJ for what he is, maybe the most solid and consistent player we have on defense. He may not be all over the place racking up big play stats, but at the end of the day when the grades are in, he's usually done his job as it was asked of him. Probably better than some care to realize. Patler pointing out that Collins may be more effective than we think he is when the numbers are analyzed just harkened me back to the arguments I used to have at the JSO home for juvenille delinquents with Hawk haters. Sorry to have confused you. I've yet to read any Hawk hater-esque posts here, so I probably shouldn't have posted the sarcasm. My apologies.
Like a lot of posters here though, bulldog is a great guy to exchange opinions with. He always keeps in on the up and up (as long as you do) and brings facts with his smack. He'll take you head on in one post, then he'll be your biggest ally if he agrees with you in the next post.
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All I can say and have ever said about hating a player because of where they are from is, for me, that rah rah bs should be left at the door when the talent is coming to play on your NFL team. It seems a bit silly to let some college rivalry, even the best of all time UM/OSU, still being upheld in the NFL. Do Woodson and Hawk dislike each other because of this? If not, then why should a fan, even an alumnus of one of the schools? I have never cheered against a Michigan player, Ohio State player, or Minnnesota player that we picked up just because I am a Badger fan, I think that's nothing short of ridiculous. Reality is I have absolutely torched many Badger players verbally that have attempted to play in the NFL. I have had more than enough insight on them like most WI residents, but I leave trashing other big ten kids to their respective fans, works for me but others can do what they want. BOTH schools attract and produce outstading talent into the NFL, that's ALL that I care about, and I wish we had more ofit coming to GB.Originally posted by vinceYou and bulldog will undoubtedly hook up in future posts, twoseven. He's a wolverine to the bone, so he's genetically predetermined to hate on Hawk...Originally posted by twosevenI haven't been a rat long enough to know where everyone stands on certain players, you name it. You WILL NOT find a bigger AJ fan than me. On another board I got tired of the relentless bs you would hear about Hawk being a bust, not making enough plays, you name it, simply because he wasn't standing out in a flashy way.Originally posted by Deputy Nutz?
My post was a sarcastic comment, and an automatic knee-jerking smartass reaction brought on by bad memories of those that do not see AJ for what he is, maybe the most solid and consistent player we have on defense. He may not be all over the place racking up big play stats, but at the end of the day when the grades are in, he's usually done his job as it was asked of him. Probably better than some care to realize. Patler pointing out that Collins may be more effective than we think he is when the numbers are analyzed just harkened me back to the arguments I used to have at the JSO home for juvenille delinquents with Hawk haters. Sorry to have confused you. I've yet to read any Hawk hater-esque posts here, so I probably shouldn't have posted the sarcasm. My apologies.
Like a lot of posters here though, bulldog is a great guy to exchange opinions with. He always keeps in on the up and up (as long as you do) and brings facts with his smack. He'll take you head on in one post, then he'll be your biggest ally if he agrees with you in the next post.
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See our poll. I didn't post in that thread because everybody knows that I think Hawk is a very good starter who just does his job well. Statistically, he's one of the best coverage LBs in the business. He's well above average in his tackling ability. He also doesn't take poor angles a lot. It would be nice if the Packers used all of his abilities (blitzed him more). That's where a lot of big plays happen. Until he gets to blitz more, we probably won't see the big turnover numbers. There's not much he can he do about that.Originally posted by twosevenI've yet to read any Hawk hater-esque posts here, so I probably shouldn't have posted the sarcasm. My apologies.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Anyone think that Collins can actually make a play
Our D has too many players that are above average but not playmakers.Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!
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I think it's an open question whether the Packers defense lacks playmakers, or whether they lack a defensive scheme that puts players in a good position to make big plays.Originally posted by b bulldogAnyone think that Collins can actually make a play
Our D has too many players that are above average but not playmakers.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Joe, I think it's a combination of both!Originally posted by JoemailmanI think it's an open question whether the Packers defense lacks playmakers, or whether they lack a defensive scheme that puts players in a good position to make big plays.Originally posted by b bulldogAnyone think that Collins can actually make a play
Our D has too many players that are above average but not playmakers.
They have some "playmakers", maybe not studs, but real good players.
I would love to see a more aggressive defensive philosophy, possibly allowing Hawke to really blossom, along with Barnett and his speed.
Not sure if Collins will ever become a great safety, but in a more agressive scheme, maybe we'll get to see some upside!My Two favorite teams are the Packers, and whoever plays the Vikings!
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Originally posted by JoemailmanI think it's an open question whether the Packers defense lacks playmakers, or whether they lack a defensive scheme that puts players in a good position to make big plays.Originally posted by b bulldogAnyone think that Collins can actually make a play
Our D has too many players that are above average but not playmakers.
Or the coach that will maximize the players by implementing the schemeTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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