Overrated!!

[The Shadow]

when all is said and done you will have your 4 great passers in history:

1. Favre
2. Elway
3. Manning
4. Marino


then you will have winners that people will try to put in the class of those 4 men but no one else belongs with those 4 guys..

Brady
Montana
Aikman
Bradshaw
Starr


these type of QB's are no where near the top 4

Who cares about mere physical ability over quarterbacking skills? Ryne Duran (oldtime Yankee pitcher) was perhaps the fastest of them all - but could not win.
Better to count up the championship rings on fingers....
(By the way, you forgot to dis the greatest of them all, Johnny Unitas.)

[Cheesehead Craig]

Ranking QB's by passing yards and determining their greatness based off that is about as foolish as ranking defenses solely on yards given up. You leave out too many other factors.

Outstanding counter Noodle.

[b bulldog]

Ladies and gentlemen, the game is played to win games not just to put up numbers. As posted, would you rather have a guy that puts up numbers or wins, regular season and post season?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Brady is a system QB, and teams didn't prepare for him like they did for Favre.

Kurt Warner was on the radio here (AZ) talking about their matchup in the SP. Warner praised Brady, but also noted that their was nothing in their game plan about brady. This wasn't a slight, but a comparison to Brady now...which, he was saying teams have to prepare against now.

Fans tend to over inflate the value of a superbowl win. This is a team sport...and not just one where you are offense and defense like bball or baseball.

Was Elway not a great QB when he was getting hammered in the first 3 super bowls? Hell, yes he was. He carried those teams. Take a look back, he had some of the worst running backs in the history of the super bowls.

1: 18 tds, 12 picks. Bledsoe put them in SP..actually Troy Brown did. 267 total yards of offense. Game turned on 3 turnovers. Brady was MVP with 16 of 27, 145 yards and a td. MVP cause who else they gonna give it to?

2: 28tds, 14 picks. 32 of 48 for 354 yards and 3 touchdowns with 1 interception. Great game, great game for Branch.

3: 28 tds, 16 picks. 23 of 33. 2 tds. Faulk and Dillon killed the eagles on the ground. 26 for 113. Branch with another monster game. Fourth Quarter it is all running game.

They rode Dillon all year. He had a monster year for them. 345 for 1600 plus yards...109 yard game average. YIKES.

One other thing. Of all the great QBs in the league, Favre has had the worst offensive lines..barely a pro bowl among them during the SP runs. No continuity of receivers. No good TEs cept for one season with Kjack and a short time with Chewy (and sorry, no, bubba and his 30 some odd catches doesn't count). And, not one HOF among them. Favre's whole career he hasn't had one receiver that was good that he played with for like 5 years until driver.

And probably the most important thing...4 freaking coaches.

Brady: 1 coach
Aikman: 2
Montana:2
Bradshaw: 1
Young: 1 (well, when he was a starter)

If i'm starting a team from scratch i don't take brady as my qb. I might not take favre, but no way do i take brady.

[RashanGary]

Brady is a fine, fine, damn fine QB but he's given more credit than he deserves for wins that were team wins by great defense, great ST's and a good overall offense.

I think he'll go down like Troy Aikman. Many were toting Aikman as one of the greatest ever after his 3rd SB and it looked like he might get more. Now he's an after thought. As Brady spend the last 10 years of his career with no rings and good but nothing special numbers, he'll be largely forgotten like Aikman.

Very good player. Belongs in the HOF, but not thought of in the conversation as best ever like he is right now because people are misreading the situation. Give it some time and people will remember it for whta it is.

Hell, I remember Kurt Warner being hyped as one of the games greatest players for a while. It happens in the short term. History puts things in better perspective.

[woodbuck27]

Watch, my prediction is that the Pats fade into oblivion and the Tom's the greatest talk will fade right along with it. Before you know it, he'll be Tom Aikman or Troy Brady or whoever the hell he is

Thank GOD he's not fr. TEXAS or he'll certainly be like Aikman just a slip shy of the Greatest.

Favre with all the records just a really good competitior. We have to get Favre another Super Bowl ring, somehow.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[b bulldog]

Your posts are funny. Please post some articles that state that Brady is overrated??? I'll be waiting for them and you can pm me these or post them. 4 super bowls, 5 afc championship games, 2 SB MVP's, 1 league MVP, greatest season evr by a QB and he is overrated?? Nick, your retarded and ignorant!

[b bulldog]

[packers11]

Bulldog go back in your hole... Your still in mourning over the Pats loss... BYEEE BRADY... How was the ride??? You guys want to buy my fictional book... Its called 19-0...

[b bulldog]

Funny, I'm way over it but it seems most in here are not

[b bulldog]

Just wondering, would it be ok if I START BASHING #4? OR IS THIS JUST BASHING bRADY???

[packers11]

Funny, I'm way over it but it seems most in here are not

I'm not because I live in New England... For the past 3 weeks I have taken more heat then ever in my life about the packers... I told them to watch out because Eli would take their team down too... Those little cocky pricks didn't want to hear a word out of me... Now I walk around and just laugh at all of them as one of the biggest chokes ever... They have nothing to say to me, it is so great...

You would understand also if they talked trash about Favre and the packers for five months, and you finally get your sweet revenge...

[packers11]

Just wondering, would it be ok if I START BASHING #4? OR IS THIS JUST BASHING bRADY???

You can bash the Patriots anyday on my watch...

[MJZiggy]

Just wondering, would it be ok if I START BASHING #4? OR IS THIS JUST BASHING bRADY???

It's a Packer forum. It's just bashing Brady, silly!

[b bulldog]

Keep it up and I'll go off :P