No decision on Williams... Wahle back in GB?

[twoseven]

Get it through your head please, I AM TALKING ABOUT 2008, KGB, and WHY I THINK IT IS UNWISE TO CUT HIM THIS SUMMER VERSUS NEXT SUMMER.

Well, before you go shouting like an angry little kid, why don't you write what you mean next time.

This time you said high priced players like KGB as if to include many (if not any) high priced players on their decline and you only related it to the money we had as if to imply having money means spending to say it's spent.

You quote me exactly, it says I am talking about KGB for 2008. Yet you come away with you said high priced players like KGB as if to include many (if not any) high priced players on their decline . Priceless. Talking to you is like clapping with one hand..

Advice for you..instead of taking three left turns, just drive straight, it's faster and doesn't drive everyone in your car insane.

[Zool]

Advice for you..instead of taking three left turns, just drive straight, it's faster and doesn't drive everyone in your car insane.

I wanted to leave this alone, but its just not in me. 3 left turns=1 right turn.

[RashanGary]

Team's that are already 25 mil below the cap without much inkling to spend it, with 15-16 mil more in Favre and Clifton space that will be added in a few years, have no reason to cut high priced players like Franks or KGB unless they can replace them with more productive players.

Idle, he's saying you don't replace them unless someone is better, no matter how much the price of KGB or the discount of the replacement. I disagree with that. Even if the young guy isn't "better" at this point, he might be close and he has upside to be better the following 5 years as KGB declines on top of the 7 million dollar savings.

With this "spend it because it's going no were" logic, there would be no reason to not up the anty for 99 because we don't have anyone better at rushing the passer from the interior and the price doens't matter.

I'm saying price is always an issue. It's not jsut the quility of the player, but the quality of the player in relation to his salary and that even applys to the Packers right now becuase they won't be in such good shape if they forget that concept.

Get it through your head please, I AM TALKING ABOUT 2008, KGB, and WHY I THINK IT IS UNWISE TO CUT HIM THIS SUMMER VERSUS NEXT SUMMER.

Team's that are already 25 mil below the cap without much inkling to spend it, with 15-16 mil more in Favre and Clifton space that will be added in a few years, have no reason to cut high priced players like Franks or KGB unless they can replace them with more productive players.

You quote me exactly, it says I am talking about KGB for 2008. Yet you come away with you said high priced players like KGB as if to include many (if not any) high priced players on their decline . Priceless. Talking to you is like clapping with one hand..

Advice for you..instead of taking three left turns, just drive straight, it's faster and doesn't drive everyone in your car insane.

Team's that are already 25 mil below the cap without much inkling to spend it, with 15-16 mil more in Favre and Clifton space that will be added in a few years, have no reason to cut high priced players like Franks or KGB unless they can replace them with more productive players.

Seems to me like you're the on taking all left turns. Even your 3 left turn to go straight analogy is inaccurate.

It's not a whole lot of fun for me to run around and cut and paste and quote you to refresh your memory on what you said. Most people here just sort of admit they may have mis communicated and change their view, at which point everyone just sort of moves on, realizing there wasn't much of a disagreement. Rather than doing that, you pretend you never said it, make something new up and try to argue about something I never disagreed with to begin with. Rediculous.

[The Leaper]

Why is there a need to cut KGB or Franks right now? We have no issues with the cap and they are both respected veteran members of the locker room.

If, in the course of training camp, they do not prove themselves to be clearly better than others at their position making far less...then you cut them.

Otherwise, it is pointless to argue in favor of dumping either guy at this time without adequate evidence that either has a capable replacement.

[twoseven]

Advice for you..instead of taking three left turns, just drive straight, it's faster and doesn't drive everyone in your car insane.

I wanted to leave this alone, but its just not in me. 3 left turns=1 right turn.

Thanks Zool, FOUR left turns. It was early.

[twoseven]

Team's that are already 25 mil below the cap without much inkling to spend it, with 15-16 mil more in Favre and Clifton space that will be added in a few years, have no reason to cut high priced players like Franks or KGB unless they can replace them with more productive players.

Idle, he's saying you don't replace them unless someone is better, no matter how much the price of KGB or the discount of the replacement. I disagree with that. Even if the young guy isn't "better" at this point, he might be close and he has upside to be better the following 5 years as KGB declines on top of the 7 million dollar savings.

With this "spend it because it's going no were" logic, there would be no reason to not up the anty for 99 because we don't have anyone better at rushing the passer from the interior and the price doens't matter.

I'm saying price is always an issue. It's not jsut the quility of the player, but the quality of the player in relation to his salary and that even applys to the Packers right now becuase they won't be in such good shape if they forget that concept.

Get it through your head please, I AM TALKING ABOUT 2008, KGB, and WHY I THINK IT IS UNWISE TO CUT HIM THIS SUMMER VERSUS NEXT SUMMER.

Team's that are already 25 mil below the cap without much inkling to spend it, with 15-16 mil more in Favre and Clifton space that will be added in a few years, have no reason to cut high priced players like Franks or KGB unless they can replace them with more productive players.

You quote me exactly, it says I am talking about KGB for 2008. Yet you come away with you said high priced players like KGB as if to include many (if not any) high priced players on their decline . Priceless. Talking to you is like clapping with one hand..

Advice for you..instead of taking three left turns, just drive straight, it's faster and doesn't drive everyone in your car insane.

Team's that are already 25 mil below the cap without much inkling to spend it, with 15-16 mil more in Favre and Clifton space that will be added in a few years, have no reason to cut high priced players like Franks or KGB unless they can replace them with more productive players.

Seems to me like you're the on taking all left turns. Even your 3 left turn to go straight analogy is inaccurate.

It's not a whole lot of fun for me to run around and cut and paste and quote you to refresh your memory on what you said. Most people here just sort of admit they may have mis communicated and change their view, at which point everyone just sort of moves on, realizing there wasn't much of a disagreement. Rather than doing that, you pretend you never said it, make something new up and try to argue about something I never disagreed with to begin with. Rediculous.

That you went to the lengths that you did to prove that your are right and I am wrong about what I said and what I meant by editing and omitting the shit out of good chunks of several posts, concerning something as simple as let's keep KGB and Bubba, etc.. speaks volumes about you, chief.

[twoseven]

Why is there a need to cut KGB or Franks right now? We have no issues with the cap and they are both respected veteran members of the locker room.

If, in the course of training camp, they do not prove themselves to be clearly better than others at their position making far less...then you cut them.

Otherwise, it is pointless to argue in favor of dumping either guy at this time without adequate evidence that either has a capable replacement.

Careful Leaper, that was my exact point to begin with. Look what it got me, a good rodgering courtesy of Justin Harell, ouch.

[FritzDontBlitz]

Bring back Wahle. Colledge needs a role model.

*Edit*

Give Bubba another year. Can he play guard too?

[woodbuck27]

Did TT get to really trying to sign Cory Williams during the season?

It never should harm anyone to try that approach or am I wrong there? Am I missing something? Cory Williams will likely leave now (the BIG BUCKS) and he made it very clear he loved playing for and living in Green Bay. When he came out with that stuff I would have waited a week of two and gone right after him. That man is a Packer afterall.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[woodbuck27]

Why is there a need to cut KGB or Franks right now? We have no issues with the cap and they are both respected veteran members of the locker room.

If, in the course of training camp, they do not prove themselves to be clearly better than others at their position making far less...then you cut them.

Otherwise, it is pointless to argue in favor of dumping either guy at this time without adequate evidence that either has a capable replacement.

Now that's being very logical.