Favre is pissing me off!

[Brando19]

COME ON ALREADY! Free Agency starts in just hours. I think it's getting annoying, if not rude, that he doesn't inform the team. I could understand a little better if he was a Guard or a Special Teams player, but my gosh he's the QB!!! He leads our team! The team could sign a player in case Rodgers isn't ready if he retires! I'm a HUGE Favre fan...and this is starting to make me think he's a baby attracted to the attention.

Oh well...talk to me in a day or two and I'll be back on his bandwagon.

[Lurker64]

Who are we going to sign in case Favre comes back that we wouldn't sign if Favre retires, and vice versa?

It seems to me that things are pretty simple. If Favre comes back, we know who the starter is. If Favre doesn't come back, we know who the starter is. Every other position is independent of the Quarterback. If Favre doesn't come back, you draft a QB a little higher and pick up a veteran off the scrap heap. If Favre does come back, you draft a QB a little lower, and you don't pick up a veteran QB.

But the kind of veteran backups you sign aren't the players who go quickly in free agency. You can always get Testaverde off of his couch, or something. In fact, nobody who's likely to go early on in Free Agency would be excited to compete with Craig Nall in order to see who backs up Rodgers.

In terms of the non-QB positions, Thompson should do the exact same thing whether or not Favre comes back. I expect this team to win next year, whether it's Favre or Rodgers starting.

[Patler]

Who are we going to sign in case Favre comes back that we wouldn't sign if Favre retires, and vice versa?

It seems to me that things are pretty simple. If Favre comes back, we know who the starter is. If Favre doesn't come back, we know who the starter is. Every other position is independent of the Quarterback. If Favre doesn't come back, you draft a QB a little higher and pick up a veteran off the scrap heap. If Favre does come back, you draft a QB a little lower, and you don't pick up a veteran QB.

But the kind of veteran backups you sign aren't the players who go quickly in free agency. You can always get Testaverde off of his couch, or something. In fact, nobody who's likely to go early on in Free Agency would be excited to compete with Craig Nall in order to see who backs up Rodgers.

In terms of the non-QB positions, Thompson should do the exact same thing whether or not Favre comes back. I expect this team to win next year, whether it's Favre or Rodgers starting.

There is the possibility that Favre's indecision will impact the thinking of the free agents themselves. Crumpler, for example, might be more receptively to the Packers if he knows Favre will be back. An older vet wanting a shot at a Super Bowl, who is weighing offers from several teams, might not listen to GB if he thinks Favre will retire, or if he is uncertain about what Favre will do.

In that way, Favre's indecision could hurt.

[Tarlam!]

I expect this team to win next year, whether it's Favre or Rodgers starting.

I agree with everything you wrote, except what I quoted. If A-Rod starts, I do NOT expect a winning season. I think he's OK at this stage, but I also think he's brittle. This kid is OK, but no Iron Man.

[StPaulPackFan]

Personally, I'm not concerned when he makes his decision. The only folks that should be concerned are the Brass for the Packers. Everything that is coming out of the Packer's front office indicates that they are not pressing him for an answer.

Personally, I'm excited either way. If he comes back we get to see a Legend sling it for another year. If he doesn't, we get to find out if Rodgers is the real deal.

[Patler]

I expect this team to win next year, whether it's Favre or Rodgers starting.

I agree with everything you wrote, except what I quoted. If A-Rod starts, I do NOT expect a winning season. I think he's OK at this stage, but I also think he's brittle. This kid is OK, but no Iron Man.

I'm willing to give Rogers a little bit of a break (no pun intended) before calling him brittle. I remember reading an article years and years ago about backup quarterbacks and injuries. Basically the article said a backup quarterback is very likely to suffer strains, pulls and other injuries (probably does not include a broken foot!). The article pointed out that the backup QBs get little work in practice and usually decline in physical readiness as the season progresses, not unlike a player coming off a long injury period of inactivity. They get absolutely no work during the game until suddenly called on to go in. They can loosen up all they want before the game starts, but not playing on special teams or in any other capacity if they come into the game they are completely cold and unprepared physically. Strains pulls and other injuries can result in that game or in the upcoming week. I believe Rodgers' was the very next practice.

[MadtownPacker]

He will come back. He probably just doesn't want to think about football yet. Shit, I am barely able to post about it myself. I could understand if he wants to avoid it for a while. It is about that time that he says something so I think those who cant wait will get what they want in the next week or so anyways.

But if he did call it quits I would trust ARod to get DD and Jennings the ball. As long as he stays healthy of course.

[The Leaper]

He will come back. He probably just doesn't want to think about football yet.

He might not want to, but it is his damn career choice. He is getting paid $10M a year to think about it, so claiming he might not want to think about it is a copout.

Try taking two months to make a meaningful decision at your job that your employer is waiting on and see how it works out.

The Packers owe it to Favre to give him a reasonable timeframe to make a decision. Favre owes it to Green Bay to make a decision in a reasonable timeframe. As Patler pointed out, this doesn't influence Thompson's decisions as much as it influences the decisions of free agents who are wondering where to sign.

I think 2 months is a reasonable timeframe...and I think Favre is bordering on becoming a diva again.

[Partial]

I for one am sick of this annual game. It's ridiculous and obnoxious. Favre just loves the attention.

[HarveyWallbangers]

There is the possibility that Favre's indecision will impact the thinking of the free agents themselves. Crumpler, for example, might be more receptively to the Packers if he knows Favre will be back. An older vet wanting a shot at a Super Bowl, who is weighing offers from several teams, might not listen to GB if he thinks Favre will retire, or if he is uncertain about what Favre will do.

In that way, Favre's indecision could hurt.

Actually, it could help. I think most assume Favre will be back. Let's say he doesn't come back. Maybe some FAs sign here thinking that Favre will come back.

I think there's a growing belief that Aaron Rodgers might not be bad, so I don't see that FAs will really be that affected. Maybe some of the guys in their 30s looking for short deals, but Thompson doesn't sign those guys anyways.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm to the point where I haven't given it an ounce of thought. In all likelihood, it has little impact on the team.

[Zool]

I'm to the point where I haven't given it an ounce of thought. In all likelihood, it has little impact on the team.

Yarp. Other than the posts here I haven't bothered to even think about it. It's on about the same level as the Clemens hearings for me.

[Packgator]

Favre just loves the attention.

I don't think so. I think he simply doesn't know. If he knew he was coming back he would have said so by now. I think he is right at 50/50. Which makes the decision tough......so you take more time. The longer he takes to decide.....the greater the chance he is done.

[twoseven]

There is the possibility that Favre's indecision will impact the thinking of the free agents themselves. Crumpler, for example, might be more receptively to the Packers if he knows Favre will be back. An older vet wanting a shot at a Super Bowl, who is weighing offers from several teams, might not listen to GB if he thinks Favre will retire, or if he is uncertain about what Favre will do.

In that way, Favre's indecision could hurt.

This would suck and I would be pissed if a FA we wanted turned us down because of #4's undertermined status, be it Algae Crumpler or Scott the G from Indy. I would be selfish for pushing Favre, but pissed nonetheless, especially considering the FAs we might be looking at seem most likely to be in Brett's huddle in September if they're anywhere on our team. We do know that Crumpler was going to talk with us at the combines. Wonder how that conversation might have gone with Favre still up in the air. AC did say he wants to go to a place and win.

[HarveyWallbangers]

AC will likely go to the place that gives him the biggest contract.