Williams to be Traded

[RashanGary]

I don't know what the odds are of hitting playmakers, but I'd wager it's more likey teams hit a playmaker with the combined selection of #'s 30, 56 and 60 than pick #11 alone. We had pick #5 and we didn't get a playmaker.

[LL2]

I don't know what the odds are of hitting playmakers, but I'd wager it's more likey teams hit a playmaker with the combined selection of #'s 30, 56 and 60 than pick #11 alone. We had pick #5 and we didn't get a playmaker.

You make a good point. You might as well keep all 3 and increase the odds of landing a playmaker, and possibly two.

[red]

I don't know what the odds are of hitting playmakers, but I'd wager it's more likey teams hit a playmaker with the combined selection of #'s 30, 56 and 60 than pick #11 alone. We had pick #5 and we didn't get a playmaker.

jury is still out on hawk, if the coach turns him loose he could very well turn into a playmaker

but i agree with you, the chances are better finding a playmaker with the 3 picks we have now, opposed to just having one pick

of course we did draft a playmaker in the second round, after we drafted hawk

[Patler]

The signing bonus may not be due to the player until say 30 days after signing etc so the Packers will not pay or take a cap hit unless that is part of what is traded for the pick. It doesn't have to be.
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I'm not sure how that would work, but I am willing to be educated. I am trying to understand, not argue here.

Anything called a signing bonus is due to the player for having signed the contract. So in this situation that would protect Williams. But, per the CBA, anything called a signing bonus is a signing bonus (presumably regardless of when paid). When a trade occurs, anything that is a signing bonus counts against the team making the trade. That would seem to indicate that if it is a signing bonus, it hits the Packer's cap.

On the other hand, to keep it off the Packer's cap by calling it something else (a roster bonus or whatever) does not protect Williams to the same extent. If something were to happen before payment is due, illness, injury (non football related) etc. the team could refuse to pay.

[Joemailman]

Acctually, according to the trade chart the Packers would be able to move their #1 and two #2's to move up to pick #11.

Trading away 1 of the 2nd's could get TT from 30 to about 17. He might consider that if the right player were available. It would be a sign of Armageddon if TT were to trade both 2nd's just to move to #11.

[Tony Oday]

So what picks did we get?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I wonder if the chiefs would be interested in dealing Allen. I would give a 1st and 2nd for him. He did say that if he played under the tag this year that it would be his last with the team. I can dream can't I.....

[HarveyWallbangers]

So what picks did we get?

Cleveland's 2nd round pick apparently (#54, I believe). Nothing official has been released by either team.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I wonder if the chiefs would be interested in dealing Allen. I would give a 1st and 2nd for him. He did say that if he played under the tag this year that it would be his last with the team. I can dream can't I.....

I can't see trading a 1st and 2nd for a guy who is one strike away from getting suspended for a year.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I wonder if the chiefs would be interested in dealing Allen. I would give a 1st and 2nd for him. He did say that if he played under the tag this year that it would be his last with the team. I can dream can't I.....

I can't see trading a 1st and 2nd for a guy who is one strike away from getting suspended for a year.

I forgot about that, what did he do again?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I wonder if the chiefs would be interested in dealing Allen. I would give a 1st and 2nd for him. He did say that if he played under the tag this year that it would be his last with the team. I can dream can't I.....

I can't see trading a 1st and 2nd for a guy who is one strike away from getting suspended for a year.

I forgot about that, what did he do again?

Couple of DUIs within the last 2 years.

[Fritz]

Does anybody here really want Thompson to go the route the Browns are going this year? They have no first or second round pick now.

[Patler]

Does anybody here really want Thompson to go the route the Browns are going this year? They have no first or second round pick now.

...or third round pick.

[LL2]

Does anybody here really want Thompson to go the route the Browns are going this year? They have no first or second round pick now.

...or third round pick.

That's pretty stupid. Mortgage their future for Quinn and Williams. Something TT would never do.

[b bulldog]

Phil Savage, Cleveland GM, admitted to reporters that the browns have sent their second round pick, 56th overall, to Gren bay for Williams.
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