Williams to be Traded

[Scott Campbell]

If, if, if, could, could, could. Any one of us could have written that article. It doesn't say anything definite, just that something could happen, but we all already knew that.

Like I said, you need to have more faith in these people. They wouldn't put their reputations on the line by printing unsubstantiated rumors.

[Patler]

If, if, if, could, could, could. Any one of us could have written that article. It doesn't say anything definite, just that something could happen, but we all already knew that.

Like I said, you need to have more faith in these people. They wouldn't put their reputations on the line by printing unsubstantiated rumors.

You are absolutely right, Scott. Just last year they told us:

ProFootballTalk.com has been reporting all week that the deal, rumored to include Green Bay backup quarterback Aaron Rodgers heading to Oakland, is close to consummation.

Moss Today, the Boston Herald reports the deal as imminent and that the Packers could introduce Moss as early as Friday. The Herald backs up what ProFootballTalk has been reporting for several days -- that Packers quarterback Brett Favre is helping orchestrate the deal and has been talking to the Raiders' cranky receiver through the process.

[Scott Campbell]

PFT reporting that Williams deal done in Cleveland already.

CORRECTION ON COREY WILLIAMS NUMBERS

A league source tells us that the reported numbers on the contract for Browns defensive tackle Corey Williams are a bit off.

Williams gets $16.3 million in guaranteed money, and a six-year deal worth $38 million.

[CaliforniaCheez]

CORRECTION ON COREY WILLIAMS NUMBERS


Williams gets $16.3 million in guaranteed money, and a six-year deal worth $38 million.

For perspective, that is approximately double Pickett's contract.

[Bretsky]

LOCAL ESPN RADIO IS REPORTING THE DEAL MIGHT BE FOR A 3RD

[RashanGary]

CORRECTION ON COREY WILLIAMS NUMBERS


Williams gets $16.3 million in guaranteed money, and a six-year deal worth $38 million.

For perspective, that is approximately double Pickett's contract.

More than Kampman too.

[HarveyWallbangers]

LOCAL ESPN RADIO IS REPORTING THE DEAL MIGHT BE FOR A 3RD

I still think that would be a solid deal. Not great, but solid. 2nd round would be a great deal.

[Bretsky]

LOCAL ESPN RADIO IS REPORTING THE DEAL MIGHT BE FOR A 3RD

I still think that would be a solid deal. Not great, but solid. 2nd round would be a great deal.

Whether it's a 2nd or 3rd next year that player will probably not be as valuable as Williams to Green Bay. That being said, I can live with a late 2nd for that sacrifice. Just a 3rd would not sit well with me.

[CaliforniaCheez]

LOCAL ESPN RADIO IS REPORTING THE DEAL MIGHT BE FOR A 3RD

I still think that would be a solid deal. Not great, but solid. 2nd round would be a great deal.

Whether it's a 2nd or 3rd next year that player will probably not be as valuable as Williams to Green Bay. That being said, I can live with a late 2nd for that sacrifice. Just a 3rd would not sit well with me.

It is still better than a compensatory next year.

[run pMc]

From JSO:

Once Williams is traded, the $6.363 million amount will be added to the team's salary cap, giving them roughly $24 million of room.

So I'm assuming that this is dead money GB carries this year for trading a franchised player. The mechanics are probably something like: CW signs the franchise tender, GB trades CW, CLE tears up the contract, and resigns to the long term. Not sure though.

Either way, I thought CW was a good player, but didn't show enough to me to be a starter over Jolly or Jenkins. Maybe he'd continue to develop as a payer and beat them out for a starter spot, but I didn't see it. I did see him as an important role/platoon player. It will be up to the rest of the DL to pick up the slack, and up to TT to replenish the talent. Getting a R2 is a good deal here.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

LOCAL ESPN RADIO IS REPORTING THE DEAL MIGHT BE FOR A 3RD

I still think that would be a solid deal. Not great, but solid. 2nd round would be a great deal.

Whether it's a 2nd or 3rd next year that player will probably not be as valuable as Williams to Green Bay. That being said, I can live with a late 2nd for that sacrifice. Just a 3rd would not sit well with me.

It is still better than a compensatory next year.

It didn't have to be a compensatory. We could franchise him again.

[Deputy Nutz]

From JSO:

Once Williams is traded, the $6.363 million amount will be added to the team's salary cap, giving them roughly $24 million of room.

So I'm assuming that this is dead money GB carries this year for trading a franchised player. The mechanics are probably something like: CW signs the franchise tender, GB trades CW, CLE tears up the contract, and resigns to the long term. Not sure though.

Either way, I thought CW was a good player, but didn't show enough to me to be a starter over Jolly or Jenkins. Maybe he'd continue to develop as a payer and beat them out for a starter spot, but I didn't see it. I did see him as an important role/platoon player. It will be up to the rest of the DL to pick up the slack, and up to TT to replenish the talent. Getting a R2 is a good deal here.

Why not sign and trade? I guess it isn't the same as basketball.

[Bretsky]

LOCAL ESPN RADIO IS REPORTING THE DEAL MIGHT BE FOR A 3RD

I still think that would be a solid deal. Not great, but solid. 2nd round would be a great deal.

Whether it's a 2nd or 3rd next year that player will probably not be as valuable as Williams to Green Bay. That being said, I can live with a late 2nd for that sacrifice. Just a 3rd would not sit well with me.

It is still better than a compensatory next year.

Assuming we lose him; next year my gut tells me KGB comes off the books. That money, theoretically could have went to CW

[Bretsky]

From JSO:

Once Williams is traded, the $6.363 million amount will be added to the team's salary cap, giving them roughly $24 million of room.

So I'm assuming that this is dead money GB carries this year for trading a franchised player. The mechanics are probably something like: CW signs the franchise tender, GB trades CW, CLE tears up the contract, and resigns to the long term. Not sure though.

Either way, I thought CW was a good player, but didn't show enough to me to be a starter over Jolly or Jenkins. Maybe he'd continue to develop as a payer and beat them out for a starter spot, but I didn't see it. I did see him as an important role/platoon player. It will be up to the rest of the DL to pick up the slack, and up to TT to replenish the talent. Getting a R2 is a good deal here.

I believe they get the 6.3 MIL put right back onto their cap

[Zool]

From JSO:

Once Williams is traded, the $6.363 million amount will be added to the team's salary cap, giving them roughly $24 million of room.

So I'm assuming that this is dead money GB carries this year for trading a franchised player. The mechanics are probably something like: CW signs the franchise tender, GB trades CW, CLE tears up the contract, and resigns to the long term. Not sure though.

Either way, I thought CW was a good player, but didn't show enough to me to be a starter over Jolly or Jenkins. Maybe he'd continue to develop as a payer and beat them out for a starter spot, but I didn't see it. I did see him as an important role/platoon player. It will be up to the rest of the DL to pick up the slack, and up to TT to replenish the talent. Getting a R2 is a good deal here.

Why not sign and trade? I guess it isn't the same as basketball.

I'm not 100% on basketballs cap or anything, but the team that owns the rights to a player can offer more money and an additional year over what other teams can offer. That might be only max contract guys though. Also the signing bonus comes out of the team that signs the deal. NBA contracts are guaranteed so a signing bonus isn't needed.