Is anyone else somewhat frustrated?

[MJZiggy]

What was the knock on him? Age?

[Bretsky]

Re: Is anyone else somewhat frustrated?

I mean, I know. We went 13-3. We went through this same thing last year. We had a great season, but c'mon. At least one signing wouldn't hurt.

Who would you want?

Not frustrated...but I wouldn't have minded Randal Gay.

That is a tough one; Gay is a starter and we already have two solid starting CB's. I'm not sure TT would pay starter like money for a #3. I see them using one of the top 3 picks there or signing a young guy with upside.

[KYPack]

I like Jacob Bell.

He's mature, young, but no kid.

As others have noted, it's still "stupid money" time. If we can get him at a good price, he'd be a player. The problem at G is we have some interesting choices, guys that might just develop into a good player. It'll be hard to figure who gets cut.

[twoseven]

Gay signed with the Saints.

[RashanGary]

I like Jacob Bell.

He's mature, but no kid.

As others have noted, it's still "stupid money" time. If we can get him at a good price, he's be a player. The problem at G is we have some interesting choices, guys that might just develop into a good player. It'll be hard to figure who gets cut.

Right. OL can sometimes take 2-3 years to develop. Spitz seems like a winner to me. After that we have a list of young guys who have chance. . .

Colledge
Coston
Barbre

I'm not ready to put all of my eggs in any one of these guys basket, but we don't have to. We only have to get 1 of 3 to pan out and we have a good starter to pair with Spitz. I do think one of those three will step up.

On top of that it's supposed to be a really good year for the OL. Thompson said in his last press conference that it's good at the top and deep throughout with olinemen. That tells me that if he takes BPA we'll end up with an OL or two.


I think we'll be OK on the Oline even without UFA. We were OK in the second half of last year and should only get better with development.

[LL2]

After seeing how TT operates the past few years how can anyone be frustrated? It would be nice to see him go out and get a few marquee names, but most of those blockbuster deals fail. Jared Allen is the only one I'd like to see be a Packer, but that's not going to happen anyways.

[Lurker64]

I think that pretty much everybody who's signing during the first weekend of free agency is a guy who's expecting to start at his new team. We're not going to pick up any definite starters at any position, since our current starters are fine. Anybody we would pick up in FA who might start would have to win that job in camp.

Those guys don't sign during the first weekend.

Expect in a couple of weeks us to sign some guys for backup roles, like Chillar and Smith, for example.

[RashanGary]

I think we're going to get a couple UFA's this year too. Our roster is getting harder to make, but we're a good team so more UFA's might be willing to talk this year.

[Bretsky]

What was the knock on him? Age?

At this point there does not seem to be a big knock on Scott; he is athletic and at a good age that would allow him to compete several years going forward. He has potential but is just not a star quite yet so he shouldn't get the huge huge bucks. He's been a solid, but unspectacular starter for Indy.

My worry is somebody who sees the same potential in him will overpay to the tune of 5MIL plus per year.

[Bretsky]

I like Jacob Bell.

He's mature, but no kid.

As others have noted, it's still "stupid money" time. If we can get him at a good price, he's be a player. The problem at G is we have some interesting choices, guys that might just develop into a good player. It'll be hard to figure who gets cut.

Right. OL can sometimes take 2-3 years to develop. Spitz seems like a winner to me. After that we have a list of young guys who have chance. . .

Colledge
Coston
Barbre

I'm not ready to put all of my eggs in any one of these guys basket, but we don't have to. We only have to get 1 of 3 to pan out and we have a good starter to pair with Spitz. I do think one of those three will step up.

On top of that it's supposed to be a really good year for the OL. Thompson said in his last press conference that it's good at the top and deep throughout with olinemen. That tells me that if he takes BPA we'll end up with an OL or two.


I think we'll be OK on the Oline even without UFA. We were OK in the second half of last year and should only get better with development.

Spitz may have been the best of the group but I'm not willing to anoint him as a stable starter yet. Any of these guys may or may not turn out. We were OK in the second half; but when we looked bad on offense it was often due to poor OG play. The Giants game just made that point very glaring.

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i'm fine with TT taking his time. i learned my lesson from last year

and as far as i'm concerned he's done well so far by adding a second round pick

[MJZiggy]

What was the knock on him? Age?

At this point there does not seem to be a big knock on Scott; he is athletic and at a good age that would allow him to compete several years going forward. He has potential but is just not a star quite yet so he shouldn't get the huge huge bucks. He's been a solid, but unspectacular starter for Indy.

My worry is somebody who sees the same potential in him will overpay to the tune of 5MIL plus per year.

I'm sorry, I was referring to Faneca. Will Scott work in the zone scheme? Are we even going to keep the zone scheme? Hey, now that I mention it , is Ryan so effective because of the ZS, or is the scheme effective because of Ryan?

[RashanGary]

I want them to get better too, Bretsky. Whether it be through the draft, through development or by bringing another player in. I'm just not as sure as you that it's all over for our young guys. I'm not so sure they were all that bad even last year. We were the #3 or 4 offense, right? They were gashing teams in the run game later in the season too. It came together.

If there's a way to get better, GREAT. I'm not so sure our guys were that bad and outside of Faneca I'm not so sure this UFA class is all that good. The Giants Dline made 4 probowlers look like punks in the SB so I don't know if that's the best measure.

[Bretsky]

What was the knock on him? Age?

At this point there does not seem to be a big knock on Scott; he is athletic and at a good age that would allow him to compete several years going forward. He has potential but is just not a star quite yet so he shouldn't get the huge huge bucks. He's been a solid, but unspectacular starter for Indy.

My worry is somebody who sees the same potential in him will overpay to the tune of 5MIL plus per year.

I'm sorry, I was referring to Faneca. Will Scott work in the zone scheme? Are we even going to keep the zone scheme? Hey, now that I mention it , is Ryan so effective because of the ZS, or is the scheme effective because of Ryan?

Oops; sorry. Fanecca is 30 or 31 I think. He's an all pro and a nasty player. Perfect fit in any scheme. Honestly, the true reason not many pursued him is $$$. He's going to get 7-8 MIL per year and many teams still don't want to pay an OG that much, especially at that age.

Most feel Scott is a very good fit in a zone scheme; he is quick and mobile.

We are keeping the zone scheme from the sounds of it; I think Grant is solid in any scheme. He did well in the Giants scheme and Green Bay's.

When our Running game sucks IMO it's because our interior OL gets blown off the ball. I like the Dorsey Levins comparison but IMO Grant is faster, stronger, and will be better.

[Bretsky]

Let's start out by saying this when analyzing the 2008 Draft

In the 6th round we got Ryan Grant

This draft could turn out to be incredibly incredibly huge for the success of the Green Bay Packers.

It appears we already have our RB of the future and it was for a late round pick.

With that start it would be hard for this draft to be anything but successful.