Oh Boy, Packers & the Police

[GrnBay007]

Maybe I'm too liberal, too out of touch with reality, but I'm the only one who seems bothered by the fact that this young guy felt the need to tote a handgun - illegally owned, I believe - around with him on his night out.

I agree. This looks really bad it if was his gun. And even if he just "found" it in the back seat of the car he was in, how many of you would just pick up a gun you find and send some shots up in the air?

Granted we don't have ALL the facts.....and in a case like this with gang members involved, and from the sound of it they are familiar with this guy.....neither we OR the police will ever have all the facts.

Packers need to proceed very cautiously with this guy.

[Tarlam!]

Innocent until proven guilty. But, we are allowed to worry like mothers, or muthas, whichever one is you.

[Guiness]

But the whole situation raises distrubing questions about who Rodgers is hanging out with.

That's what I was getting at. Why was he there? He should've known better.

[GrnBay007]

That's what I was getting at. Why was he there? He should've known better.

He's a gang banger and was hangin with his homies. They wanted him to spend some money on them that he'd didn't have yet....he objected, fight broke out.

[RashanGary]

I don't like the whole thing either. There are thugs who have good careers though. I hope it's not a wasted 4th round pick. Those are pretty valuable guys.

[Patler]

Some excerpts from a couple articles inthe Star-Telegram in Fort Worth:

"They told police that the gun was fired "to scare off a group of males who had thrown beer bottles at Rodgers and the other two individuals after he refused to give them some type of autograph," Sullivan said."


"Initial reports said a fight broke out between TCU players and gang members, but police say they haven't found any connection between the two.

"After police broke up the fight, a man told them that he and his friends had been assaulted by gang members. Two of those men were taken to the hospital but no arrests connected to their report were made, police said.

"These are seemingly two isolated, but coincidental incidents," Sullivan said."

"Patrick Banks, who owns the Cowtown Fudge and Creamery Shoppe across the alley from the bar, said he was surprised to hear about Friday's trouble. He lets club patrons park in the lot behind his store and said the owners don't run a rowdy place.

"They're really good neighbors," he said."

[Patler]

The recent article from the FW paper quotes the cops as saying they have found no connection between the gang situation and the one Rodgers was involved in. Called them "isolated, but coincidental situations."

A neighboring business said it was a good place.

This is a bar in "The Stockyards". I've been to the Stockyards in Fort Worth. As I recall, if I am thinking of the right area, its kind of a tourist area with shops, souvenir counters, restaurants and bars. I had dinner at a barbecue place and shopped along one of the streets. I did not perceive it to be a bad area, if I'm thinking of the right place.

[GrnBay007]

Shamrock, I see you are looking for facts. With all due respect, I don't think you will ever find them in this situation. You have an NFL player involved, gang members involved and apparently a decent establishment involved. Something I've always believed and found to be true, where there's smoke, there's fire.

I agree with your post earlier in this thread. If they keep him, his contract needs to have a lot of extra provisions about character and behavior.

......oh, and NO use of handguns.

[Patler]

Shamrock, I see you are looking for facts. With all due respect, I don't think you will ever find them in this situation. You have an NFL player involved, gang members involved and apparently a decent establishment involved. Something I've always believed and found to be true, where there's smoke, there's fire.

I agree with your post earlier in this thread. If they keep him, his contract needs to have a lot of extra provisions about character and behavior.

......oh, and NO use of handguns.

Your right, lets ignore what facts we can find, and go on instinct!

I posted the quotes because I had the feeling some people believed he was at a seedy establishment, a place he shouldn't have been, a gang hangout. I don't think that is the case. I think the bar is a place that any of us might go to.

[MJZiggy]

This is what he gets for not being in GB doing Coach Mac's offseason training program like he was supposed to be...

[GrnBay007]

Your right, lets ignore what facts we can find, and go on instinct!

I posted the quotes because I had the feeling some people believed he was at a seedy establishment, a place he shouldn't have been, a gang hangout. I don't think that is the case. I think the bar is a place that any of us might go to.

Well instinct is a wonderful thing when you are familiar with that cast of characters. Anyway....my point was simply that I don't think we will get all the facts in this case. You have a drafted NFL player and the mention of gang involvement. The NFL doesn't want that press, the particular establishment doesn't want that kind of press and the local police involved probably don't want it either .......especially if it took place in a respectable part of town. My only point is that it's very unlikely the public will ever receive the true facts in this case. .......and therefore......proceed with caution on this particular player. That's all.

[Harlan Huckleby]

He's a gang banger and was hangin with his homies.

007, you repeated a couple times that a gang was involved. What was the name of the gang? Is this a fact or guess?

Hell, this forum is a gang. A black man and his friends aren't necessarily a gang. (But I'm crossing the street just in case! )

[Harlan Huckleby]

Harlan; I was in Madison on Friday and saw a sign on the beltline for this. What's it all about? Manufacturers serving samples, or various groups together as a giant fundraiser?

It's a charity event best described as a mass feeding frenzy. The brats are excellent, some people come with shopping bags and fill their freezes.

It's estimated that at the end of the long weekend, 28 tons of partially digested bratwurst will have accumulated in colons across Southern Wisconsin.

[GrnBay007]

007, you repeated a couple times that a gang was involved. What was the name of the gang? Is this a fact or guess?

The original article mentioned there was a brawl between players and gang members.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I see. well, sounds like Rodgers just found himself in the wrong gang.