McCarthy's criticism of Jason Wilde 'unprofessional'

[retailguy]

I don't always take the Packers side, but in this case, I think McCarthy let the little twit have it. As far as I'm concerned, I hope they let more of those crap writers have it as well.

Well, this should definitely help merchandise sales. Nick, what do you think "tags" had to say in his phone call to M3? You do think he got one, don't you? These guys have language in their contracts that prohibit things like this. It WON'T happen again...

[Homer Jay]

Coaches have been going off on reporters as long as there has been newspapers. If MM doesn't' like the way reporters handle their job he will blast them again. I like what McCarthy did.

[pbmax]

SAT., MAY 20, 2006 - 12:37 AM
Packers: Missing at minicamp
JASON WILDE
608-252-6176
jwilde@madison.com
GREEN BAY -

According to a team source, the veteran cornerback is skipping the three-day, five-practice minicamp - which technically is voluntary - because he would like the team to upgrade his contract.


Maybe he was using a poor source, but the fact of the matter is that he opened up his story by saying a source said this.....He followed it up by saying Harris denied it somewhere in the middle of the article, but he point of his story is that Harris is holding out for money. The way he construced that article was unprofessional IMO and McCarthy is man enough to tell him about it. Next time the little pansy should fight back instead of rotating around the talk radio circuit whining about how he got mistreated.

And BTW, Journelists who are friends with each other and can easily relate to the situation are not objective. If you think that, the detatchment from reality is on you.

If a reporter doesn't want to be called out on his writing then don't write it. You seem to have no problem calling me out HH. You are a senior member here at Packerrats. Is what you're doing dispicable? I don't think so. The writers don't like being called to task on their irresponsible acts and McCarthy is a blue collar guy who talks in 4 letter words. If you don't like it, find a new job. But I'm sorry if I have no sympathy for a little pussy who hides behind his pen.

Here is the straw man argument again. Only Nick and Madtown have said anything about Harris holding out. You can't be a holdout during a VOLUNTARY camp. Wilde correctly labels this skipping.

Second, Wilde trusts the source, and it is the lead. You can't start a story with the denial.

And please note, he says its a team source, not someone close to Harris, his agent or the guy who starches Andrew Brandt's shirts, but a team source. No one has impeached the credibility of the source. And the source has no reason to make trouble for the team. So instead of crying about the messenger, we should wonder why the team pre-emptively leaked this news.

As for fighting back, do you think he can pull a Will McDonough and punch McCarthy like McDonough did to Raymond Clayborn? C'mon. And as for making the rounds complaining, I have managed somehow not to hear him. Can't be a very big tour.

Lastly, as for lying or the article being wrong, the only info to stand on here is McCarthy's denial, the agent saying they won't be McKenzie or Walker and Harris saying its not like that. These aren't categorical denials. No one has disproven anything.

The only question I have is: was this a part of what McCarthy and Thompson said they had learned from the Walker experience? Or was this source acting on his own?

[pbmax]

OK, I like them both, and am tired of disagreeing with Nick, Mad et.al. So now its time for something completely different.

Or slightly different. Paul Zimmerman wrote this a while back after the TO-Hugh Douglas fight last year. Some great stories, including two involving writers.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/dr_z/11/09/fights/index.html

[Oscar]

PB, I can't speak for all the Packer Rats.. But... T.O. and Hugh Douglas don't play for the Pack. So I could care less about there lil spat..... I want a head coach that is gonna stand up for his players and his team..The Green Bay Packers!!! Were a bunch of crazy rats.... And we love our team!!So F@@k anyone that stands in our way.. Seems we have a H.C. that thinks that same way..

[MJZiggy]

I love articles like that...

[pbmax]

PB, I can't speak for all the Packer Rats.. But... T.O. and Hugh Douglas don't play for the Pack. So I could care less about there lil spat..... I want a head coach that is gonna stand up for his players and his team..The Green Bay Packers!!! Were a bunch of crazy rats.... And we love our team!!So F@@k anyone that stands in our way.. Seems we have a H.C. that thinks that same way..

Perhaps I should have clarified Jeffro, the article is not about TO or Hugh Douglas. Its the best actual locker room fights Zimmerman knows about. And the connection is that two of the stories involve fights with writers.

[Patler]

And as I posted before, his extreme defensiveness suggests that Wilde hit a vulnerable nerve.

Nope. Not at all. In fact just the opposite. Absolutely.

MM knows it was false. Thus he is in the position of power and control and can call out Wilde for the story. If Wilde hit a nerve because of some truth in it, MM could never have taken such a firm stance. Wilde would be able to contradict him with the facts that were the basis of his story. It would be within Wilde's power to make MM look extremely bad. MM would never have put Wilde in control like that.

If there was any truth in it, MM could not have taken the public stance. The best he could have done is the office discussion and the "I wish you hadn't done this because...."

If there was any truth to the story at all, what MM did would have transferred power and control to Wilde. That hasn't happened. The story is false. Absolutely. This wasn't an instinctive, gut reaction on the spur of the moment.

[Harlan Huckleby]

It is time that reporters start having a little respect for this organization,

I don't think reporters should take loyalty oaths. They try to be objective. Wilde did nothing disrespectful. It was McCarthy who was out of line.

[Harlan Huckleby]

MM knows it was false. Thus he is in the position of power and control and can call out Wilde for the story.

I have yet to learn what is "false." Wilde just relayed information from his sources, that Harris was unhappy with his contract and missing minicamp as a result. You are shooting the messenger.

[Patler]

MM knows it was false. Thus he is in the position of power and control and can call out Wilde for the story.

I have yet to learn what is "false." Wilde just relayed information from his sources, that Harris was unhappy with his contract and missing minicamp as a result. You are shooting the messenger.

Who knows if he even had a source, or if the source has an crdibility. I'm not shooting anyone, just analyzing the situation, based on what was written by Wilde and about MM calling him on it. That's all, and my conclusion from that analysis is that Wilde must have flown with some pretty bad info.

Maybe you think it is fine for a writer to report every rumor he hears. I for one would like to see them verify it. It should be unusual when a story turns out to be false. Sadly, that is no longer the case.

[Patler]

I have yet to learn what is "false." Wilde just relayed information from his sources, that Harris was unhappy with his contract and missing minicamp as a result. You are shooting the messenger.

Since when are writers merely messengers of whatever anyone tells them? They have a responsibility to their readers to do more than that.

[Homer Jay]

I always wonder about unnamed sources, and I agree, verifying the truth of the story is or at east should be a big part of the job.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I base a lot of my interpretation on Wilde's credibility. I've followed him for a while, he's a good analysist and even-handed.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Since when are writers merely messengers of whatever anyone tells them? They have a responsibility to their readers to do more than that.

We're back to square one: what did Wilde report that proved to be false? I agree he should print a retraction if some info was mistaken, but I see nothing to retract.