Grant will do offseason workouts but won't sign minimum tend

[mission]

gado never looked good... ever.

you can do plenty of searches and see me talkin shit from day one ...

stats are great but grant is a football player.. straight up

and for all the lamers, he's "packer people"...

[Fritz]

Grant just seems to me to be...impudent. He's light years from free agency, played for nine games, and - by the way - showed that he had some trouble hanging onto the football at times.

I'm not against giving him a better deal than the minimum. But unless TT and MM think he's definitely the man, I wouldn't give him anything too big.

[run pMc]

Grant's vision and instincts in the ZBS are considerably better than Gado's were. If the 5.1 ypc is accurate, that would also be a much higher rushing avg. Last yer's OL was better than the one Gado had, but not by a lot...Will Whitticker, anyone?

[twoseven]

For those who think it was all because of Favre that the running game opened up, you are wrong.

..and you would prove this how, exactly?

[Zool]

Ask Wynn and Jackson if the passing game opened the running game.

[Partial]

Ask Wynn and Jackson if the passing game opened the running game.

Maybe they were just that bad?

[twoseven]

Ask Wynn and Jackson if the passing game opened the running game.

ask these guys about playing with HOF QBs..1000 yard rushers in GB history..

1949 T.Canadeo 208 1,052 5.1 4
1960 J.Taylor 230 1,101 4.8 11
1961 J.Taylor 243 1,307 5.4 15
1962 J.Taylor 272 1,474 5.4 19
1963 J.Taylor 248 1,018 4.1 9
1964 J.Taylor 235 1,169 5.0 12
1971 J.Brockington 216 1,105 5.1 4
1972 J.Brockington 274 1,027 3.7 8
1973 J.Brockington 265 1,144 4.3 3
1978 T.Middleton 284 1,116 3.9 11
1995 E.Bennett 316 1,067 3.4 3
1997 D.Levens 329 1,435 4.4 7
1999 D.Levens 279 1,034 3.7 9
2000 A.Green 263 1,175 4.5 10
2001 A.Green 304 1,387 4.6 9
2002 A.Green 286 1,240 4.3 7
2003 A.Green 355 1,883 5.3 15
2004 A.Green 259 1,163 4.5 7
2006 A.Green 266 1,059 4.0 5

[Zool]

Ask Wynn and Jackson if the passing game opened the running game.

Maybe they were just that bad?

That was my point. Grant is not. Sign the kid.

[Partial]

They will.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

For those who think it was all because of Favre that the running game opened up, you are wrong.

..and you would prove this how, exactly?

Let’s see, the first seven weeks we were ranked 32 in the league in rushing, and then after Grant took over we were one of the top running teams in the league. You honestly believe that was due solely because of Favre? Sure, I'm not that naive that I won’t admit a strong passing game helps the run game, but at the same time am not that naive to believe Favre was the sole reason for our good running game either. If you were actually watching the games you would have seen that Grant made a lot of great runs off his vision and great cut backs. Also, his yards after contact are very high and he was running behind a bad run blocking line. Your comment suggests that you think the running games success was due only because Favre and the passing game. How would you prove that?

[Fritz]

Ask Wynn and Jackson if the passing game opened the running game.

ask these guys about playing with HOF QBs..1000 yard rushers in GB history..

1949 T.Canadeo 208 1,052 5.1 4
1960 J.Taylor 230 1,101 4.8 11
1961 J.Taylor 243 1,307 5.4 15
1962 J.Taylor 272 1,474 5.4 19
1963 J.Taylor 248 1,018 4.1 9
1964 J.Taylor 235 1,169 5.0 12
1971 J.Brockington 216 1,105 5.1 4
1972 J.Brockington 274 1,027 3.7 8
1973 J.Brockington 265 1,144 4.3 3
1978 T.Middleton 284 1,116 3.9 11
1995 E.Bennett 316 1,067 3.4 3
1997 D.Levens 329 1,435 4.4 7
1999 D.Levens 279 1,034 3.7 9
2000 A.Green 263 1,175 4.5 10
2001 A.Green 304 1,387 4.6 9
2002 A.Green 286 1,240 4.3 7
2003 A.Green 355 1,883 5.3 15
2004 A.Green 259 1,163 4.5 7
2006 A.Green 266 1,059 4.0 5

Sorry to be all lame on my Packer history, but who was the HOF quarterback sharing the backfield with John Brockington in the early 70's and Terdell Middleton in '78?

[DonHutson]

Both sides have a legitimate point. From the Packers point of view he's only done it for half a season and he can't go anywhere else anyway, so he has no leverage. From Grant's point of view, based on that half season he has a very bright future and he doesn't want to jeopardize future earnings by blowing out a knee making $300 grand this year.

Surely there's a happy medium where he gets some level of raise and some hefty performance bonuses.

[packrulz]

Grant came in and ran the ball when nobody else could, and TT had just traded for him because our other RB's couldn't stay healthy, he hardly knew the playbook, and still ran for almost 1,000 yds behind a mix and match OL in 9 games. He's a natural for the ZBS and wasn't hurt all year. I'd like to see him sign a 4 year deal, he's young, and he's the Packers best RB.

[Freak Out]

What exactly is "well above the NFL minimum for a second-year pro"?
Grant not signing the first slip of paper coming his way is smart. Unless he and his agent get really unreasonable I see TT working out a nice package for the guy.

[b bulldog]

9 games and he wants a contract to be a life long Packer??? He does deserve more than the low tender he was offered but he needs to do more than what he did in 9 games in my humble opinion.