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    Now that the hullabaloo about Brett Favre’s retirement has died down, at least until he might change his mind sometime before August, the movement to crown him the best pro quarterback of all time has died down with it.

    That’s good, since the same sort of stampede was in place most of January when the New England Patriots were not only on the verge of another Super Bowl championship but about to accomplish a 19-0 perfect season. We all know what happened with that concept.

    I’ve thought long and hard about it and have come to the conclusion that it’s impossible to pick a No. 1 quarterback of all time. There are just too many football eras involved and the position, at least the pro version, doesn’t remain the same. Rules change, as does equipment, training methods and strategies.

    The best I could do was come up with the seven best quarterbacks of all time, with another possibility a current work in progress. These are the seven, in alphabetical order with their main team and years of competition:

    • Sammy Baugh, Washington Redskins, 1937-1952.

    • Tom Brady, New England Patriots, 2000- present.

    • John Elway, Denver Broncos, 1983-1998.

    • Brett Favre, Green Bay Packers, 1991-2007 (unless he comes back).

    • Otto Graham, Cleveland Browns, 1946-1955.

    • Joe Montana, San Francisco 49ers, 1979-1994.

    • Johnny Unitas, Baltimore Colts, 1956-1973.

    • On deck: Peyton Manning, Indianapolis Colts, 1998-present.

    For younger readers who might have uttered “who?” upon reading the names of Baugh and Graham, some explanation might come in handy.

    Baugh last played 55 seasons ago but he still holds or is tied for six Redskins records: most touchdown passes in a career, 187; best punting average career, 45.1; most passing yards in a game, 446; most touchdown passes in a game, six; best punting average in a season, 51.4 yards, which remains an NFL record also; and most passes intercepted in a game, four. The last record occurred in 1943, when most of the veteran players were in the armed forces during World War II and Sammy was among those old guys who had to play both offense and defense.

    I never saw Baugh play but the old-time players with whom I spoke swore no one was better at slinging the football, even when it was fat and unpebbled.

    Graham was one of the first two-sport pro athletes. He graduated from Northwestern during the war and was enrolled in the Navy’s V-12 program at Colgate. On his nights off, he drove up to Rochester to play with the Rochester Royals (now the Sacramento Kings) of the NBA. When the war ended Graham began his pro football career with the Browns of the new All-America Conference and led them to four league championships in the AAFC’s four years of existence.

    In the Browns’ first game as a member of the NFL, Graham led Cleveland to a 34-10 pounding of the old league’s champion, the Philadelphia Eagles, then to the NFL title. In his 10-year career the Browns won either their league or conference title. In his final two years he spearheaded Cleveland’s blowout championship victories over the Detroit Lions and Los Angeles Rams.

    It’s interesting that Baugh, Graham and Unitas pretty much followed each other in successive dominations. Then there was a six-year pause before Joe Montana defined the West Coast offense and assumed the crown. Elway and Favre overlapped each other. Now Brady, 30, and Manning, who turns 31 on Monday, should spend the next five seasons battling over which one is the best of their era.

  • #2
    Pretty crazy article to leave out Dan Marino.

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    • #3
      I wouldn't have put Brady on the list......there's still time for him to crash and burn.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by packinpatland
        I wouldn't have put Brady on the list......there's still time for him to crash and burn.

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        • #5
          Agree, both him and Manning could elevate themselves even more or both could do damage to themselves also.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brando19
            Pretty crazy article to leave out Dan Marino.
            He stayed a bit too long and, sadly, that's what people are remembering. They should have been remembering who held all those records that Favre broke, though.
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            • #7
              Larry Felser has replaced John Steadman as the crabby old guy NFL writer. From a historical perspective it's a pretty good list. If you wanna have all the passers, you'd have to add Arnie Herber and Benny Friedman. Herber retired as the leagues leading passer and had a gun. Herber broke Friedman's records and he could truly sling it too.

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              • #8
                What's the criteria for this list? If it's not choking away your teams chances to get to and win super bowls, Aikman should be on that list.

                Steve Young is another one for the modern era. I'd take his passer rating over Favre's.

                Just to name a couple.

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                • #9
                  Steve Young.... yes, Aikman.... no.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chester Marcol
                    What's the criteria for this list? If it's not choking away your teams chances to get to and win super bowls, Aikman should be on that list.

                    Steve Young is another one for the modern era. I'd take his passer rating over Favre's.

                    Just to name a couple.
                    How can you complain about choking away playoff games then you go pick Young over Favre after Favre owned Young in the playoff?

                    Would have been perfect against him had it not been for the rice fumble that wasn't reviewable.

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                    • #11
                      With some old time Pack fans saying Bart Starr was the best QB ever to don the Green and gold, I have to ask why his name is not on the list. Or, are we in perfect agreement that Brett was the clar #1 GB QB?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tarlam!
                        With some old time Pack fans saying Bart Starr was the best QB ever to don the Green and gold, I have to ask why his name is not on the list. Or, are we in perfect agreement that Brett was the clar #1 GB QB?
                        If Starr himself claims he can't hold a candle to Brett, then who are any of us to argue?

                        Brett is the greatest QB ever to wear a GB uniform. Starr is the most successful.
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                        • #13
                          So success isn't measured in Championships... Great to know.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chester Marcol
                            What's the criteria for this list? If it's not choking away your teams chances to get to and win super bowls, Aikman should be on that list.

                            Steve Young is another one for the modern era. I'd take his passer rating over Favre's.

                            Just to name a couple.



                            Idk about Aikman. Aikman's career was benefited greatly by playing with Michael Irvin, who wasn't a truly great reciever but was one of the best at pushing off to gain position and not getting called for it. Having one of the best RB's and maybe THE best OL in the history of the game didn't hurt him either. That defense was very impressive also, which means Aikman wasn't playing from behind nearly as much as Favre was. Aikman wasn't taking nearly the same chances Favre took, so it's no suprise that his passer rating was better. But the Dallas Cowboys carried Troy Aikman, whereas Brett Favre carried the Green Bay Packers. The two aren't even comparable - Favre is a far better QB than Aikman ever was.
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                            • #15
                              Welcome to the forum Gunakor!

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