Greatest WRs of All-Time

[mngolf19]

I can't even fathom somebody who watched Rice and Moss saying Moss was the greatest they've seen.

I agree. Moss is the greatest deep threat I've ever seen, and I could see why someone might argue he is the most physically talented WR ever.

However, Moss can't block and he refuses to run routes across the middle of the field. He also drops too many routine catches. I don't see how he really has any claim on being the greatest ever.

He does not refuse to run routes across the middle. That just doesn't fit his skills best or help the team the most. For example, he caught passes over the middle in the SB but we would all agree that Welker was better at that and it fit his skills better.

Off this list, I don't understand T.O. being on there. What exactly has he done to put himself on this list? He drops too many, has no records, isn't known for anything special in my opinion. Of course I didn't think Irvin deserved the list either.

Doesn't fit his skills...so, he is lacking in that area. If you are saying welker is better at it...you pretty much have lost the argument.

rice ran every route, and did them all great.

Ok, quote me correctly now. "Doesn't fit his skills best or help the team the most." Nothing about lacking in that area. Also, didn't compare Moss to Rice. Didn't say he was better. Rice is better. Sheesh.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I can't even fathom somebody who watched Rice and Moss saying Moss was the greatest they've seen.

I agree. Moss is the greatest deep threat I've ever seen, and I could see why someone might argue he is the most physically talented WR ever.

However, Moss can't block and he refuses to run routes across the middle of the field. He also drops too many routine catches. I don't see how he really has any claim on being the greatest ever.

He does not refuse to run routes across the middle. That just doesn't fit his skills best or help the team the most. For example, he caught passes over the middle in the SB but we would all agree that Welker was better at that and it fit his skills better.

Off this list, I don't understand T.O. being on there. What exactly has he done to put himself on this list? He drops too many, has no records, isn't known for anything special in my opinion. Of course I didn't think Irvin deserved the list either.

Doesn't fit his skills...so, he is lacking in that area. If you are saying welker is better at it...you pretty much have lost the argument.

rice ran every route, and did them all great.

Ok, quote me correctly now. "Doesn't fit his skills best or help the team the most." Nothing about lacking in that area. Also, didn't compare Moss to Rice. Didn't say he was better. Rice is better. Sheesh.

First, i didn't quote you.

Second, Moss has long shyed away from going across the middle/slants, etc. This can't even be disputed. Some said it was fear of contact, some said he couldn't learn the routes, etc.

However, the point still remains...great receivers have all the skills and can do it all.

[Gunakor]

Hell, I'd take Marvin Harrison over Randy Moss. Moss might have more ability at the position than Harrison, but I'll take consistency over ability any day of the week. Twice on Sundays.

If Moss was really one of the greatest ever, why couldn't he haul in more of Andrew Walter's throws? I mean, there were alot of EASY ones thrown to him in Oakland that he dropped.

Then there's everything he's during his career. "I'll play when I want to play" and "Nobody else cares about winning, so why should I". 2nd greatest reciever EVER?? Please...

[KYPack]

[quote="Tyrone Bigguns

Second, Moss has long shyed away from going across the middle/slants, etc. This can't even be disputed. Some said it was fear of contact, some said he couldn't learn the routes, etc.

However, the point still remains...great receivers have all the skills and can do it all.[/quote]

Closest he'll come to slants are the deep crosses. He hasn't run the middle of the field in years. He won't do it.

Moss was no factor in the Pats play-off run. Opposing defenses are playing the corner at 3 yard technique on Moss's outside shoulder. That, with the safety over the top takes him out of the gamre. He still occupies two guys, but a player like that the greatest of all time?

No way.

[Noodle]

He wasn't a Packer, but I can't take a top 10 WR list seriously if it doesn't have Freddie Biletnikoff. I mean c'mon, the man was the gold standard in an era where receivers just got the crap mugged out of them.

Plus, I remember the guy being a serious smoker, like a pack and a half a day kind of thing. He'd stub out a butt, slather on some stick-um, and make an absolutely sick catch to keep a drive going. This was when Giants Walked the Earth.

Here here, Noodle. Biletnikoff was my man, back in the day when I was a kid. Also, I think a name that is missing from the list is the Baltimore wide receiver - uh, Raymond .... somebody. You know, the dude that used to practice like a demon, running his routes over and over and over. Was called the best route-runner ever to play the game. Damn. What was his last name? Studious kind of guy.

I think the old-timers got shorted on this list. If Paul Warfeld hadn't been on it I was going to blow up my computer.

Raymond berry is the guy you are referring to.

Biletnikoff was a great receiver, but is far from the top ten. I loved him also as a kid, but a lot of this is because he was on a dominant team, he was a character, and was a great possession receiver.

But, our memories are from being kids. I always thought several raiders were the greatest..casper, stabler, guy..but, there are tons of guys with similar numbers.

For example, if you say biletnikoff...why not charlie joiner? Why not Drew Pearson. Why not cliff branch? Why not Isaac Curtis? why not Gene washington. Why not Bob Hayes..who really terrorized the league.

Biletnikoff is a HOF, but he is far from being a top ten receiver. He might be a top ten possession receiver.

Raymond Berry has to be a contender for this list. Monster receiver.

And Freddie blows away the other guys you mentioned, who were all quality receivers to be sure. Freddie had like 6 pro bowls, ranked among the top three in receptions 4 years in a row, and was a SB MVP.
Pearson: 3 pro bowls, only cracked top 3 in receptions (no. 3) once.
Curtis: 4 pro bowls, never cracked top 3 in receptions and never caught more than 50 balls a year.
Washington: 4 pro bowls, never cracked top 3 in receptions.
And Bullet Hayes: only 3 pro bowls and never cracked the top 3 in receptions. But I agree that Hayes changed the game in a way Freddie didn't with his speed, though not so much with his route running or catching ability.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Judging the quality of a receiver by the number of Pro Bowls appearances he made is silly. The Pro Bowl is a joke.

[mission]

Oh, so that's not really Don Hutson... I didnt think the years matched up but damn, was thinking that old timer was doing real well in a wheel chair or something.

No wonder he outlived my grand father lol

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[Noodle]

Judging the quality of a receiver by the number of Pro Bowls appearances he made is silly. The Pro Bowl is a joke.

I agree it's not bulletproof, but how else to get a consensus of how a guy is judged by his peers -- penis size?

[Fritz]

He wasn't a Packer, but I can't take a top 10 WR list seriously if it doesn't have Freddie Biletnikoff. I mean c'mon, the man was the gold standard in an era where receivers just got the crap mugged out of them.

Plus, I remember the guy being a serious smoker, like a pack and a half a day kind of thing. He'd stub out a butt, slather on some stick-um, and make an absolutely sick catch to keep a drive going. This was when Giants Walked the Earth.

Here here, Noodle. Biletnikoff was my man, back in the day when I was a kid. Also, I think a name that is missing from the list is the Baltimore wide receiver - uh, Raymond .... somebody. You know, the dude that used to practice like a demon, running his routes over and over and over. Was called the best route-runner ever to play the game. Damn. What was his last name? Studious kind of guy.

I think the old-timers got shorted on this list. If Paul Warfeld hadn't been on it I was going to blow up my computer.

Raymond berry is the guy you are referring to.

Biletnikoff was a great receiver, but is far from the top ten. I loved him also as a kid, but a lot of this is because he was on a dominant team, he was a character, and was a great possession receiver.

But, our memories are from being kids. I always thought several raiders were the greatest..casper, stabler, guy..but, there are tons of guys with similar numbers.

For example, if you say biletnikoff...why not charlie joiner? Why not Drew Pearson. Why not cliff branch? Why not Isaac Curtis? why not Gene washington. Why not Bob Hayes..who really terrorized the league.

Biletnikoff is a HOF, but he is far from being a top ten receiver. He might be a top ten possession receiver.

You have a point.

Tell you what - tight ends-wise, it's got to be Kellen Winslow Sr.

[MJZiggy]

Judging the quality of a receiver by the number of Pro Bowls appearances he made is silly. The Pro Bowl is a joke.

I agree it's not bulletproof, but how else to get a consensus of how a guy is judged by his peers -- penis size?

Works for me.

[DonHutson]

Judging the quality of a receiver by the number of Pro Bowls appearances he made is silly. The Pro Bowl is a joke.

I agree it's not bulletproof, but how else to get a consensus of how a guy is judged by his peers -- penis size?

Works for me.

Then Don Hutson still wins!

[MJZiggy]

Dare I ask how you know?

[Charles Woodson]

Dare I ask how you know?

well the man obviously is The Don Hutson

[Cheesehead Craig]

Glad that Largent is on the list. I'd take a WR corps of clones of him anyday. I consider he and Rice the top 2 route runners ever. He had deceptive speed as well. He didn't have elite speed, he had a great burst to get to his top speed out of cuts and defenders couldn't handle him. He had a career 16 yds/catch avg (which is more than Moss or Rice) and he went over the middle and earned those.

Plus, extra kudos for kicking 2 XP in his career.

[b bulldog]

Rice is the best I've personally seen play. Hutson may be the best ever and Moss is the greatest reg season WR.