Predit what Ted Does... (1st rounder)

[woodbuck27]

I'm looking at one of the following to be our's at #30:

Reggie Smith JR S Oklahoma (but . . he has to fall to us)

Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona **

Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas **

Brandon Flowers, CB, Virginia Tech **

** All in the ballpark for TT to pick.

[Guiness]

we really have no clue what he'll do. he'll throw us a curveball no matter what we think

He's gonna draft a power forward. You heard it here first.

BOMNF

hockey or basketball?

[the_idle_threat]

I was thinking basketball. Truth be told, I didn't even know there was such a position in hockey.

But if he drafts some guy who played the position in hockey or basketball, in college or even high school, I'm bumpin the hell outta this thread.

[sheepshead]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

[The Leaper]

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

Well, if your logic is correct that everyone wants out of that spot, then who in the NFL will want to move into it?

You are crazy if you are claiming no one wants to be in that #30 spot...yet also claiming that Thompson will easily find someone who wants to trade into that spot. You can't have it both ways.

[sheepshead]

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

Well, if your logic is correct that everyone wants out of that spot, then who in the NFL will want to move into it?

You are crazy if you are claiming no one wants to be in that #30 spot...yet also claiming that Thompson will easily find someone who wants to trade into that spot. You can't have it both ways.

Hey Einstein. That's the point. There are no takers. Until the NFL gets a rookie salary cap. The 1st round of the NFL draft is the biggest overrated expensive crapshot in all of sports. If 'value' presented itself, TT or any GM would jump at it. In a heart beat. The problem is. No one wants to be in the first round, not really.

Where did I say TT would easily find a trade partner? Teams are stuck with a first round pick. Look back on previous drafts You wont recognize 2/3 of the names.


Anyone know who Tony Smith is? He's tied to the Packers but never played here.

[Guiness]

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

Well, if your logic is correct that everyone wants out of that spot, then who in the NFL will want to move into it?

You are crazy if you are claiming no one wants to be in that #30 spot...yet also claiming that Thompson will easily find someone who wants to trade into that spot. You can't have it both ways.

I don't know that it's that bad yet, but I tend to agree with sheepshead - I think most teams that are at the very top of the board, and some near the middle, would just as soon be picking later. Especially this year, when a couple of the players in the top 5 are DT's??? Rookie's are paid based on draft position, not playing position (Sorry Quinn) and who wants to pay a DT that kind of money - they are one of the lower paid positions in the nfl, which is why we could get away with franchising Williams like we did.

[sheepshead]

Quinn was the best, his agents actually wanted money equal to where they THOUGHT he should have been drafted. That just tells you how fvcked up this is and the negative impact it has on a team. The trickle down effect is there. The need to start the guy right away even is he's not ready. If he becomes one of the 67% that arent even in the league in 5 years....

So..anyone get the Tony Smith question without using google?

[woodbuck27]

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

Well, if your logic is correct that everyone wants out of that spot, then who in the NFL will want to move into it?

You are crazy if you are claiming no one wants to be in that #30 spot...yet also claiming that Thompson will easily find someone who wants to trade into that spot. You can't have it both ways.

So more than not TT uses our #30 spot to pick his player rated highest on his board.

GOD doesn't even know who that will be. Anything else is just pure fun and speculation.

Now I'll come back with this:

We also pick at 56 and 60 in the second round. So when our turn comes at #30 TT has 10% of the next 31 best players to choose from. At that point in time he knows exactly his position. "It is as it is."

TT will only trade down if the offer comes from a team picking early in the second round. It's "the Ole circle shake". What will happen will depend on another teams needs and the possibility of an offer to TT as that is his style to trade down and mostly that offer being accpeptable to TT.

GOD doesn't know what TT will do?

PACKERS FOREVER!

[The Leaper]

Where did I say TT would easily find a trade partner? Teams are stuck with a first round pick.

Which is why I said I'm 95% sure we are going to pick at #30. However, I guess I'm crazy.

[sheepshead]

ok goofball, now youre just cherry picking my quotes for your own edification.

[Fritz]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

[woodbuck27]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

That (some teams want to trade their First Round pick) shouldn't be difficult for sheepshead to support or back-up. Teams are very aware of the cost of doing business with a first rounder.

Seriously how many teams really believe they will put together a possible Super Bowl contender? How many teams are light years from ever getting there?

Teams exist for the market. For fans that love football period. Some fans, I'm one of them. Expect the playoffs and for our team to go deep into the playoffs and Super Bowl appearances.

After that.

Let the best team that day win.

Some teams want to run it as close to realistic as possible as their team has little hope. Why pay the cost of a first round pick when this draft is deep into the second and early third rounds?

Packers Forever!

[sheepshead]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

Just from memory over the last few weeks, I believe the Dolphins floated the idea and somebody asked the league if there would be any ramifications if a team passed and they said no. I just saw that ruling the other day. I think Florio had the 'fins thing.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I'm guessing we pick at #30...with about 95% certainty.

If we did move, I would venture a guess that the chances were slightly higher that we would move up than down. I don't see Ted trading down unless someone gives him a crazy good deal to do so...and I don't see that scenario happening for pick #30. Ted could move up if he saw someone falling into the mid 20s that he felt was a clear top 20 talent in an area of need.

Youre crazy-any GM would get out of the first round if the opportunity presented itself. in a heartbeat. Look, the Dolphins cant give that pick away-there's talk about teams passing on their pick.

I'm sorry - I can't let that boldface line go unchallenged. Who, pray tell, is the genius GM who is actually discussing the possibility of simply passing up his first round pick? Please name the "there's talk" - whose talk?

I think Sheephead wrote it and then read what he wrote. Therefore it was in "print."

And, you can trust everything you read.