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  • Allen to Vikings... "is close to being in place"

    The Minneapolis Star-Tribune is hearing that a deal between the Chiefs and Vikings involving Jared Allen "is close to being in place."

    The Star-Trib cautions to "not get too excited yet," but the Vikings are thought to be in contract talks with Allen currently. It's a safe bet to project Allen's deal being worth more than $30 million in guarantees.
    Source: Minneapolis Star-Tribune

  • #2
    It's important to not that about this time last year we were all convinced that "Rodgers for Moss is a done deal, details to come."

    NFL GMs are very tight lipped this time of year and they often lie when prompted, and the media is whipped into a fervor by lack of football news and draft anticipation that they jump on any innuendo.

    From what I've heard, Minnesota and KC are a ways apart on his trade value but we'll see.
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    • #3
      I dont see this happening
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lurker64
        From what I've heard, Minnesota and KC are a ways apart on his trade value but we'll see.
        The contract value is usually what deep sixes these deals...not what the teams are going to exchange. KC will hold out for as much as they can get, but ultimately they will unload Allen...and the Vikes seem to want him.
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        • #5
          They franchised him and I think indeed they will unload him (like we did with c.williams)...

          What a deal they get... Place the franchise tag on him and potentially get a 1st and 3rd back in return when he was probably going to leave next year anyway...

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          • #6
            Minny's D will be very dominant. If they don't lose much in this trade in terms of any noteable starters along with the picks, Minny will still be my favorite in the North. If TJack can play at all, this team could challenge the Boys.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by b bulldog
              Minny's D will be very dominant. If they don't lose much in this trade in terms of any noteable starters along with the picks, Minny will still be my favorite in the North. If TJack can play at all, this team could challenge the Boys.
              No way... T-Jacks is garbage and that offense is zippo without AP... They better prey he doesn't suffer any setbacks/injuries or that team is screwed...

              As for that D, its average at best...

              Allen will help the team, but in no way would put them over the top...

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              • #8
                Challenge the 'boys to what; lose in their 1st playoff game???

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                • #9
                  AP was good because defenses didnt adjust to him until later...when they did that they held him easy. Jump Pass is terrible the only QB we have to worry about is Gus.
                  Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by POLISHHAWK
                    Challenge the 'boys to what; lose in their 1st playoff game???
                    great post...

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                    • #11
                      They will always find a way to lose.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        They will always find a way to lose.

                        How very true....

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                        • #13


                          Chiefs keeping options open with Pro Bowl end Allen

                          Associated Press

                          Updated: April 18, 2008, 5:51 PM ET

                          KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- As improbable as it might have sounded at the end of last season when he led the NFL in sacks, the Kansas City Chiefs could be willing to part with All-Pro defensive end Jared Allen while he's in the prime of his career.

                          If the price is right for the 26-year-old Allen, the Chiefs could extract precious extra selections to use next week in what shapes up as one of the most crucial drafts in recent team history. Extra picks could greatly speed up coach Herman Edwards' rebuilding project for a team that lost its last nine games in 2007 and finished 4-12.

                          The Chiefs need offensive linemen and defensive backs, two position groups that scouts believe to be in abundance. The Chiefs have the No. 5 overall pick in the draft, and 10 selections altogether. If they could package a deal for a second choice in the first round and an extra second- or third-round pick, that might look very attractive.

                          The Chiefs have talked with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Minnesota Vikings about Allen. But general manager Carl Peterson refused on Friday to go any further.

                          "We're talking in speculation right now," Peterson said.

                          "At this particular point, nothing has been done or consummated."

                          Peterson's relationship with Allen has been strained ever since Peterson, in the wake of Allen's DUI convictions, described him as

                          "a young man at risk."

                          Allen, who could be suspended for a season if he has another alcohol-related episode, has said he would not negotiate with Kansas City if he doesn't get a contract done by next July.

                          After reaching an impasse, the Chiefs made Allen their franchise player on Feb. 7, but did not put the exclusive tag on him, as they did on tight end Tony Gonzalez when he was franchised in 2002.

                          That made it possible for Allen and his agent to talk with other clubs and be examined by their team doctors.

                          Kansas City would still be able to keep him by matching whatever offer he gets. If they decide not to match, they would get two first-round picks from the club that signs Allen, something no other club seems likely to go for. But another team could negotiate a deal with the Chiefs for compensation.

                          "Any team can bring him in, talk to him, measure him, physical him, write a contract. That's the option they have as a non-exclusive franchise player," Peterson said.

                          "If we wanted to prohibit Jared and his agent from having the opportunity to look to teams, we would have put the exclusive franchise tag on him. We didn't do that. In years past we have used the exclusive. So we'll see what happens. But to this point nothing has happened. If something does happen, we'll let you know. If it doesn't happen, we'll let you know."

                          Peterson declined to say what sort of offer might tempt him.

                          "I don't know at this point. I haven't seen any contract offer," he said.

                          Allen was suspended the first two games by the commissioner last season for multiple DUI convictions. But Allen says he has stopped drinking entirely, a claim backed up by close friends.

                          "I've seen Jared at a big party, out on the dance floor, where everybody is drinking except one person. It's Jared, and he's having the best time of everybody," said Chiefs fullback Boomer Grigsby.

                          The 6-foot-6, 270-pound Allen was drafted with a supplemental fourth-round pick out of Idaho State in 2004.

                          In addition to a league-leading 15½ sacks for 111 yards in losses, he had 67 tackles, three forced fumbles and 18 pressures. In his first game back from the suspension against the Vikings, he had nine tackles, two sacks, a pressure and a pass defended. He also forced Adrian Peterson to fumble.

                          Coming in on offense in goal line situations, he also caught a pair of one-yard touchdown passes. He was named a starter on the Pro Bowl.

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                          • #14
                            "Peterson's relationship with Allen has been strained ever since Peterson, in the wake of Allen's DUI convictions, described him as

                            'a young man at risk.'

                            Allen, who could be suspended for a season if he has another alcohol-related episode, has said he would not negotiate with Kansas City if he doesn't get a contract done by next July."


                            This guy would fit right in up there in Minny. This may be the factor that puts the trade over the top and into reality.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fritz
                              "Peterson's relationship with Allen has been strained ever since Peterson, in the wake of Allen's DUI convictions, described him as

                              'a young man at risk.'

                              Allen, who could be suspended for a season if he has another alcohol-related episode, has said he would not negotiate with Kansas City if he doesn't get a contract done by next July."


                              This guy would fit right in up there in Minny. This may be the factor that puts the trade over the top and into reality.
                              Heh, you guys and your Koren Robinson have no right to razz Viking fans.




                              Anyway, my take is that it's probably worth the risk. Like Robinson though, the Vikings have gotten all kinds of testimony to the fact the guy doesn't drink anymore and is a decent guy. Doesn't mean crap though. if they dish a 1 and a 2 or a 1 and a 3 and shoot him 30 large garenteed they have to write in some recourse for recovering something or they shouldn't do the deal. If they can somewhat protect themselves then I'd say give him Freeney money and trade the picks.

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