Culpepper to Packers?

[Zool]

You could also see the 2004, 2002, 2001 and 2000 draft.

[Green Bud Packer]

I say no to Culpepper. Not the guy I want mentoring Rodgers

Culpepper won't be mentoring anyone. Favre was the guy who mentored Rodgers. No veteran we bring in will mentor Rodgers...Rodgers knows 10 times more about the offense and our players than any veteran we will bring in.

A veteran #2 will be brought in simply as INSURANCE...not as a mentor or someone who can tuck Rodgers in at night. Rodgers is the man now...the mentoring he will get will come on the field now.

Rodgers is still in diapers as a starting Q.B. He will need a vet who he can go to for advice

[DonHutson]

People sure try real real hard to paint a gloomy horrible future but even worst case it isn't end of the world stuff. It would be a big setback, hardly a franchise ending event.

Yeah, when the Vikings end their franchise they're going to do it the old-fashioned way - by failing to get a stadium built.

[Rastak]

He figured that about out the picks all on his own? LOL.....The money shouldn't cripple them but the draft picks would hurt. I hardly think it's crippling. If a team missed on a 1st and and 2 3rd round picks they are now crippled? If a team misses on their top 3 picks are they now screwed for years? No, it hurts but it doesn't kill you. People sure try real real hard to paint a gloomy horrible future but even worst case it isn't end of the world stuff. It would be a big setback, hardly a franchise ending event.

I say it's all a bunch of fear mongering. I would use the term setback

Yep, we're all fearful of the Vikings. It's Super Bowl homeboy for the Vikes again. You can go to KFAN if you want to read universal praise of this move. I think there's tremendous risk with this move. We'll see how it pans out.

There's only been one player that the Vikings have had that made me "fearful." That was Randy Moss. How "fearful" did Brett Favre make you? I'm not "fearful" of Jared Allen. Chad Clifton didn't have much trouble with Allen, and the Packers didn't even have to double Allen much. If the Vikings found a QB to complement Peterson, I might be "fearful" of him.

The Vikings got an Aaron Kampman for a 1st, two 3rds, and a boatload of cash. A high risk Aaron Kampman who could get suspended for a year if he makes another mistake. Congratulations! I guess I'm growing tired of the typical Vikings fans response around here to a move like this. At least, I'm expressing my opinions on a Packers board, and not being a troll on a Vikings board. I'm not saying you are a troll, but I wouldn't get too bent out of shape because I don't like the move all that much. I've been wrong before, but it smacks of complete desperation to me.

See the Vikings 2005 draft to see how a bad draft can set a franchise back.

Dude, is it even possible for us to have a simple conversation about an event without all the bullshit? Jeez. Just tell me how YOU feel about the deal. You think it is risky? I agree. Is it you or all the third parties you search out that think it will cripple the franchise? I've given my opnion. I'm not 100% sure what your's is to be honest. I guess if read back through everything it's probably there.

Look, I get the fact you don't like the team. I get the fact you don't like most of the fans. Let's try hard to rise above that and argue, debate or discuss the facts. Let's not worry about what "most Viking fans think" or what "Twin Cities media says". Let's give our opinions on why this is a terrible deal, a great deal or something in between.

Whew....does that make sense?

[mngolf19]

He figured that about out the picks all on his own? LOL.....The money shouldn't cripple them but the draft picks would hurt. I hardly think it's crippling. If a team missed on a 1st and and 2 3rd round picks they are now crippled? If a team misses on their top 3 picks are they now screwed for years? No, it hurts but it doesn't kill you. People sure try real real hard to paint a gloomy horrible future but even worst case it isn't end of the world stuff. It would be a big setback, hardly a franchise ending event.

I say it's all a bunch of fear mongering. I would use the term setback

Yep, we're all fearful of the Vikings. It's Super Bowl homeboy for the Vikes again. You can go to KFAN if you want to read universal praise of this move. I think there's tremendous risk with this move. We'll see how it pans out.

There's only been one player that the Vikings have had that made me "fearful." That was Randy Moss. How "fearful" did Brett Favre make you? I'm not "fearful" of Jared Allen. Chad Clifton didn't have much trouble with Allen, and the Packers didn't even have to double Allen much. If the Vikings found a QB to complement Peterson, I might be "fearful" of him.

The Vikings got an Aaron Kampman for a 1st, two 3rds, and a boatload of cash. A high risk Aaron Kampman who could get suspended for a year if he makes another mistake. Congratulations! I guess I'm growing tired of the typical Vikings fans response around here to a move like this. At least, I'm expressing my opinions on a Packers board, and not being a troll on a Vikings board. I'm not saying you are a troll, but I wouldn't get too bent out of shape because I don't like the move all that much. I've been wrong before, but it smacks of complete desperation to me.

See the Vikings 2005 draft to see how a bad draft can set a franchise back.

Dude, is it even possible for us to have a simple conversation about an event without all the bullshit? Jeez. Just tell me how YOU feel about the deal. You think it is risky? I agree. Is it you or all the third parties you search out that think it will cripple the franchise? I've given my opnion. I'm not 100% sure what your's is to be honest. I guess if read back through everything it's probably there.

Look, I get the fact you don't like the team. I get the fact you don't like most of the fans. Let's try hard to rise above that and argue, debate or discuss the facts. Let's not worry about what "most Viking fans think" or what "Twin Cities media says". Let's give our opinions on why this is a terrible deal, a great deal or something in between.

Whew....does that make sense?

Vikes have drafted DE's how many times in the last decade with 1st rd picks. At least 4. James is the closest to actually producing. Now you get a 26 yr old with proven ability and pay him the market value. If the Vikes had traded up to Top 10 from their 17th pick it would have cost the same amount of picks. The contract has $31M guaranteed and payable over 2 years. The first year is protected if he gets suspended, after that you owe him $15.5M so the worst that could happen out of that is you lose $15.5M if you cut him right afterward. It was also a top need for the team. There is risk with every move, even non-moves. This was definitely worth the try and I won't bitch if it doesn't work out. I prefer trying then not trying. (McCombs) And you won't hear expectations for championships out of me. I expect them to improve, nothing more.

[red]

well thats the big problem i see with it.

to me, the queens need a lot more help then just one lineman. they just traded away half their draft to get that one proven guy. as for using those 2 third rounds to move up 7 spots in the first. why in the world would they do that? again, they need more then one player

[The Leaper]

Rodgers is still in diapers as a starting Q.B. He will need a vet who he can go to for advice

I think that is what a QB coach is for...but maybe the QB coach actually is just there simply to test Thompson's food in case Tank poisoned it.

If Rodgers has to rely on a veteran for advice at this point, then he shouldn't be our starting QB. The kid has been in the league for 3 full years...most guys are lucky to last that long.

[mngolf19]

well thats the big problem i see with it.

to me, the queens need a lot more help then just one lineman. they just traded away half their draft to get that one proven guy. as for using those 2 third rounds to move up 7 spots in the first. why in the world would they do that? again, they need more then one player

Red, their only problem on D last year was QB pressure. All other D ills will be fixed by this, assuming he lives up to the expectation. The reason they would have possibly traded up is that the best DE's will likely be gone by their 17th. And they traded away 3 of their 9 picks this year for 1 guy, not half their draft.

[Tarlam!]

Well, say what you want, but I 4 1 am not discounting the Vikings. These guys are intent on winning today and AP scare the CRAP outta me.

I think we can neglect Da Bears and Da Lions, but those Purple Dudes, no way. They are for real.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

The Vikings still have a very suspect secondary. However, so did the Giants and look how much a dominant pass rush helped them.

[mngolf19]

The Vikings still have a very suspect secondary. However, so did the Giants and look how much a dominant pass rush helped them.

TPB, with no pressure from the DL they had to blitz all the time to get pressure. Which resulted in them being Top 10 in sacks last year. But that left CB's alone. They will not have to blitz nearly as much now and can do more coverage, that will help dramatically in their performance. Again assuming this works out as they hope.

[Fritz]

Is it just me, or is it every year from February through August the Vikings always win the NFC North?

[red]

Is it just me, or is it every year from February through August the Vikings always win the NFC North?

very true

i think sharper was suppose to put them over the top one year too

[texaspackerbacker]

I seriously doubt Culpepper is "begging for a job". On the other hand, I would hope we could sign him for something near the minimum ........ but I kinda doubt it. If he has even half his old mobility, he has definite value.

I also really don't think he would be "mentoring" Rodgers. He's be more like an insurance policy. As somebody said, getting him would make it more likely we take a "project QB" in the low rounds of the draft.

As I read this talk about the Vikings, you know what I was thinking? If I was Culpepper, I'd be shopping my services to my old team--which could really use a good QB.

[Rastak]

I seriously doubt Culpepper is "begging for a job". On the other hand, I would hope we could sign him for something near the minimum ........ but I kinda doubt it. If he has even half his old mobility, he has definite value.

I also really don't think he would be "mentoring" Rodgers. He's be more like an insurance policy. As somebody said, getting him would make it more likely we take a "project QB" in the low rounds of the draft.

As I read this talk about the Vikings, you know what I was thinking? If I was Culpepper, I'd be shopping my services to my old team--which could really use a good QB.

True, they could use a good QB which rules him out......