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50% of this forum was in doom and gloom mode last year saying Safety, WR, FB, RB and TE would be the downfall of Ted. Now it's OG.
TE came out of no where with a hard working guy developing.
S came out of no where with a hard working guy developing.
RB came out of no where with a hard working guy developing on NY's roster and Ted finding him
FB came out of no where with a 6th round pick
WR developed into a strength
Who's to say OG won't develop.
Good points. This might be the best post you've ever made.
Yes that was good.
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the thing about the draft that I figured out is, far be it for me to sit here and critique what these paid professionals are doing. They watch more film, and put in more time than I would ever do on my own to scout these players. They must have some understanding with what they are doing. If Thompson honestly thinks that Jordy Nelson is the best player and best overall fit for the Packers then who am I to judge at this juncture? I take it as it comes.
I can stat that I don't really like the Brohm pick because of all the media controversy that is now going to surround the QB position in 2008. We haven't really had that in Green Bay since Favre's early years.
I agree, plus i figure, me bitching about not likeing the pick wont change shit...
What's the general cocensus on TT's third pick the CB Patrick Lee at #60?
Consensus from me is pretty good, especially since I pegged him at that exact spot at about 9am this morning when I posted it on here.
"I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
Consensus from me is pretty good, especially since I pegged him at that exact spot at about 9am this morning when I posted it on here.
I'm also happy with the pick. Lee is far from a finished product, but he has a lot of upside and he's immediately better than Bush and would be fine as a dimeback some time this season. He needs a lot of seasoning though, but he has the right attitude and physical tools.
Also, despite what JH says Lee did start in college. He started every game in 2007 and was awarded with second-team all SEC honors. This isn't some track star who could never crack the field on a squad with no defensive prospects at all. He won conference honors on defense in the SEC at Auburn. If anything, he was a late bloomer in college.
I agree, we don't particularly need help at Guard.
Going into the second day, ANY of the three TEs mentioned would be excellent. I especially like Finley, although he probably will be gone before the Packers pick.
The player I would REALLY like to see the Packers draft in the third round is Jamal Charles, a rare combination of extreme speed and good size who I can't see why he isn't long gone already.
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Thompson never does what is best, he does what he thinks is the BPA on his board. Was Brohm the best on his board for the 56th pick??????????? I doubt it! Lee had to be higher then Brohm. Could it be that he is thinking about something we dunno about? Who knows. I would have thought after taking Nelson we were looking at a CB for the next pick. Brohm looks to be a sleeper with more skills then Rodgers. Why in the hell would he send that message?????
Merlin, I have to say - finally - that I'm about sick and tired of your carping on TT with baseless accusations. What was last year? A fluke, I suppose? I'd guess - and yes, it's a guess - that if you'd polled the Packerrats about 65 -70% would've been thrilled with Lee, Brohm, and a basically unknown WR in the second round, plus an extra fourth rounder. And how do you know that Lee had to be ranked higher than Brohm? WTF? Criticize TT, sure - I dont' have a problem with that - but base it on reality, okay?
Based on the tenor of your posts I'd guess you'd secretly be thrilled if the Packers sucked next year. You ripped the hell out of TT last year, then they went 13 - 3, and you're still pissed. So your continuing ciriticism of TT suggests you don't want him - and therefore the Packers - to succeed. And what kind of Packer fan does that make you?
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i think day 2 starts at 9am central time... not a big jamal charles fan... he is fast but has a fumbling problem if i remember correctly... i'm not too high on texas running backs either... i know you and i are from texas, texaspackerbacker, but for some reason, UT running backs rub me the wrong way... just one mans opinion
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I think TT is not sold on the way Jones developed last year, and with DD getting up there, it may very well be a need pick as well as BPA.
I agree.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Mad, if he were here live here he'd hate it.....for 30 seconds then he'd find 10 reasons to love it. And he may very well be right!
Originally posted by Rastak
Viking Wishlist:
Brohm QB
Sweed WR
Jackson WR
Henne QB
Fred Davis TE
Vikings select S Tyrell Johnson
So, how did you spin this one?
Did the Vikes trade up to pick up Johnson? Beginning of the end to Sharper's time in Minnesota?
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
I think TT is not sold on the way Jones developed last year, and with DD getting up there, it may very well be a need pick as well as BPA.
I agree.
I also agree. I think that TT and the scouting department do that none of us do is that he looks at needs that are more than one season out. Consider the following:
1) Driver is getting up their in age, and may have already started to fall off.
2) Jones may not have developed as well as they hoped, and may have a limited ceiling.
3) Both Koren Robinson and Ruvell Martin are free agents after this season, and while those guys are not irreplaceable it's best to find somebody to replace them before they end up signing with some WR-poor team for a king's ransom.
With the Nelson pick, WR is unlikely to become a need after next year barring catastrophic injury. Without it? Who knows.
I talked with 2 friends of mine who are Lions and Bears fans....both of them, their first words out were, "I hate you". My buddy that is a bears fan really wanted Brohm, and while he thinks Rodgers is the guy, sees it as a Win-Win situation for Green Bay. Either they are protected with having 1 of 2 pan out, or they have a solid backup, either way, or they both pan out, and Green Bay gets a future #1 pick for whom ever they trade.
Lions fan buddy simply said, "we took a decent OL guy, great...we have no running back or quarterback, and 1 WR who hates being there, and another who hasnt' stepped up yet. Then we take some OLB, who looks good, but our LBers are our only "decent" part of our defense. Awesome job Matt Millen."
I for one am extremely excited for today's picks. I read a lot on Jordy coming into today, and was extremely happy we took him. If Jones isn't happy with them taking Nelson, he just needs to buckle up and be a man about it and prove his worth. Brohm pick I liked for the same "win-win" thought. And Patrick Lee I picked at that spot a few weeks back, so I'm very happy with that pick. Physical Corner that will have time to learn. Gotta be happy with day 1. Now I wouldn't mind seeing Teddy package his 2 - 4th round picks that he can trade, and get another 3rd higher up so he can snag a TE for sure.
Tomorrow I would fully expect to see a RB, TE, OL, DL, and possibly another DB and snag a LB, as there are a ton of quality guys still availble on defense.
"I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
" There seems to be a few solid TE's left in Cottham, Finley, and Davis "
Of those three:
5. Brad Cottam Tennessee 6-71/2 270 4.63
6. Craig Stevens California 6-31/4 254 4.59 7. Kellen Davis Michigan St. 6-6 262 4.60
8. Martin Rucker Missouri 6-43/4 251 4.71 9. Jermichael Finley Texas 6-4 253 4.82
I like Davis based on below;
I looked up all their bio's and believe that Finley would be the best choice of all of them. He's also the youngest. He had a decent number of grabs last year. Rucker is intriguing too. He had a ton of catches, but not a lot of yardage compared to the number of catches. I saw Rucker play a couple of games and he looks the part of an NFL TE. Cottam looks big, but doesn't have a lot of catches, and was out most of last year. Stevens I don't know about at all, and the bio doesn't show much. Davis also doesn't have a lot of catches, but looks the part of a TE. He isn't rated very physical, and I don't know what kind of pass-catching threat he would be.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Yeah, I like Finley too. But we're likely drafting the #3 TE at this point, and I'm not sure we'd keep three. So I won't be at all surprised if we don't draft a TE at all. Finley would be a solid #3 though.
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