Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[Rastak]

Pats take manningham?

[MateoInMex]

I love this pick! Finley is a beast. He has a great youtube video. Search his name at www.youtube.com

That link didn't work GBPACKFAN

I found one...if you want to try this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5WHVTR5pqA

[Chubbyhubby]

This is a great draft for the Packers!

[Bretsky]

Guy I'd like that Packers to get in the 3rd:

Roy Schuening: OG, Oregon St.

I'm rooting for Reggie Smith. For safety.

lol

funny stuff; this always happens to me

[CaliforniaCheez]

key addition: NONE

What is Brandon Chillar? Chopped liver?

Back ups are not key I assume.

[red]

When do the Packers pick next?


HEY, ESPN talking to TT now!!!!!!!!!

we have 3 picks in the 4th

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[Rastak]

When do the Packers pick next?


HEY, ESPN talking to TT now!!!!!!!!!

we have 3 picks in the 4th

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128
135

As Charlie Brown would say, "I got a rock".

[Gunakor]

key addition: NONE

What is Brandon Chillar? Chopped liver?

Back ups are not key I assume.

He very well might beat out Pop for the job. He didn't sign with us to be the backup - he wouldn't have come if he didn't think he could win the job.

[Lurker64]

key addition: NONE

What is Brandon Chillar? Chopped liver?

Back ups are not key I assume.

Last year we had "Frank Walker" as our key addition. I smell an inconsistency.

[Rastak]

Pats take QB O'Connell:


Strengths: Possesses outstanding size, is tall enough to scan the field from within the pocket and is strong enough to make accurate throws with defenders draped over him. Has quick feet and is efficient getting set up. Shows a quick release and the ball appears to explode out of hand. Puts excellent zip on downfield passes, can throw into tight spaces and can make all throws. Has a good sense of timing, shows good touch and flashes the ability to lead receivers when throwing underneath. Possesses good pocket presence, has the quick feet to buy time and does a good job of keeping eyes downfield when gets flushed out of the pocket. Moves well for his size, can get outside the pocket and throws well on the run. Can make the first defender miss, has good top-end speed and is a threat to run when nothing is available downfield. Plays with confidence and is a competitor on the field. Has steadily progressed and should only get better with added experience.

Weaknesses: Is still very raw and loses the strike zone too much. Short arms too many throws and appears to try to place the ball instead of throwing it. Makes poor decisions in the face of pressure and needs to do a better job of beating the blitz. Presses instead of letting things come naturally and will throw into traffic at times. He played in a scheme that simplified his reads and could need time to get comfortable in an NFL style offense as a result. Didn't face upper echelon defenses playing in the Mountain West Conference and there are concerns about ability to make a successful transition into the NFL. Missed six games of the 2006 season with a thumb injury, sustained a shoulder injury in 2006 and durability is a concern.

Overall: After redshirting in 2003, O'Connell became a starter midway through his first season with the Aztecs. In four seasons, he completed 664 of 1,151 pass attempts (57.7 percent) for 7,689 yards, 46 touchdowns and 34 interceptions in 39 games. He also ran for 1,312 yards (3.3 average) and 19 touchdowns. He had his finest season as a senior, finishing among the top 25 in the country in total offense per game (290.8 yards). In 12 games, he completed 257 of 439 attempts for 3,063 yards, 15 touchdowns and eight interceptions, adding 408 yards and 11 touchdowns as a ball carrier. O'Connell missed six games in 2006 after suffering a thumb injury to his throwing hand, which required surgery. O'Connell's play has substantially improved over the past two years and there is a high ceiling on his potential. He possesses the size, mobility and arm strength of an NFL starter. However, O'Connell is a developmental prospect that did not play the highest level in college and still has lots to learn in terms of footwork and the mental portion of the game. In order to reach his full potential at the next level, O'Connell will need a patient organization with a bright quarterback coach. O'Connell is worth the risk for such a team in the final few rounds but no higher than Round 5.

[GrnBay007]

When do the Packers pick next?


HEY, ESPN talking to TT now!!!!!!!!!

we have 3 picks in the 4th

113
128
135

Thanks.

Wow, that was kinda weird......TT was smiling!!!!

[Rastak]

Champs on the clock......

[ND72]

4 picks have all been from "big" schools.....where is our random Western New Mexico State School of Engineering guy?

[red]

finely's going to be unstoppable in a couple years i think

[Rastak]

Giants take Manningham!


Strengths: A true playmaker at the wide receiver position. He has been one of the most productive pass catchers in college football the past three seasons. A homerun hitter both as a vertical route runner and after-the-catch. Has a knack for producing in the clutch. Is deceptively fast. It almost seems as if he lulls defenders to sleep at times. A defender will be running step-for-step with him before he turns on an extra gear as the ball begins its descent it's a closing burst seen on film that can't be measured in a 40-yard dash time. He is able to consistently generate separation from man-coverage. Gets in and out of breaks quickly and does not need to gear down much at all. He is a savvy route runner who consistently gets DB's to bite on his smooth double-moves. Possesses a rare ability to adjust to the ball thrown over his shoulder, as well as concentration when competing for jump balls in traffic and/or near the sideline. Displays very good leaping ability and wins more jump balls than most receivers his height. He can pluck the ball naturally on the run. Gets upfield in a hurry with very little wasted motion. Is a shifty and quick runner after the catch. Displays good vision as an open-field runner, as well.

Weaknesses: Is lean with only adequate height. Needs to improve his strength and become more physical. Generally gets away with using quicks and savvy to beat the press but he will run into trouble versus bigger and stronger cover corners with good press-man technique. He would much rather work the perimeter than go over the middle. He occasionally will lose focus and will disappear from games. He is a bit of a prima-donna. He knows how talented he is so he doesn't always work at the game as passionately as he should. He has had some off-the-field issues, so monitoring his character will be important for team that drafts him. He is clearly disinterested when it comes to stalk blocking in the running game. Has almost no experience in the return game/special teams, either. He missed some time in 2006 with a knee injury and his slender build adds to the concerns for his long-term durability in the NFL.

Overall: Manningham played 12 games and made three starts as a true freshman, finishing the 2005 season with 27 receptions, 433 yards and six touchdowns. As a sophomore, he had 38 catches for 703 yards (18.5-yard receiving average) and nine TDs. Manningham played in 12 games in 2007 (he served a one-gap team-issued suspension against Eastern Michigan), logging 72 receptions for 1,174 yards and 12 TDs. His 97.8 receiving yards per game ranked first in the Big Ten and 10th in the nation. In three seasons, he also had 31 carries for 181 rushing yards. Manningham made a name for himself in college as one of the nation's most dangerous vertical threats. But there's a lot more to his game than simply catching the deep ball, which is important considering his lack of elite size and top-end speed. He is a skilled route runner with a knack for using subtle moves to separate from coverage. He also possesses good hands and run-after-catch ability. Unlike many former Michigan receivers that failed to live up to the hype in the NFL (David Terrell, Marquise Walker and Jason Avant), Manningham has the quick-twitch athleticism to translate his college production to the next level. So long as he remains motivated and stays out of trouble off the field, Manningham has the tools to emerge as a Tory Holt type weapon for the team that drafts him in the mid-to-late portion of the first round.