Official 2008 NFL Draft thread Day 2

[Rastak]

Cowboys trade down yet again....Browns on the clock.

[ND72]

Browns trading next years draft for 4th rounders today?


Side note, Campbell, Safety from Army....I wouldn't mind grabbing him. 6'1" 238, 4.38 speed at Safety.

[GoPackGo]

we have 2 more 4th round picks and one 7th round pick.
my guess is TT goes OL next

[Rastak]

Browns take TE Rucker:


Strengths: An H-back prospect with adequate-to-good height and the frame to add some bulk. He is a smooth athlete for the position. Can occasionally stretch the seam as a receiver and will create some mismatches versus slower LB's. Shows the ability to catch over his head. He displays mostly reliable hands. He's a fluid route runner with a good feel for setting up man-to-man defenders and for finding soft spots in zone. Will pick up more yards-after-catch than most TE's. Shows good initial quickness and also will carry defenders for extra yards at the end of runs. He's a position and wall-off type of blocker. Takes solid angles and generally gets in good position. Has long arms and uses them to keep separation once locked on. At his best in space as a blocker. Extremely durable athlete.

Weaknesses: Is undersized and must add bulk to his frame. Not very physical. Gets overmatched by bigger, stronger DE's when working as an in-line blocker. Not used in-line very often in spread scheme. Has a narrow base and struggles to anchor at the point of attack. Also doesn't have much experience working against the jam from the in-line position. Doesn't play to timed speed. Is fluid and athletic but lacks the type of burst that elite pass-catching TE's in the NFL possess. Will occasionally drop passes he should catch focus is a bit inconsistent, especially if he's being lined up for a big hit by a defender.

Overall: Rucker was redshirted in 2003. In his first three seasons (2004-'06), he started every game (36) and notched 119 receptions for 1,341 yards (11.3 average) and 10 touchdowns. Rucker underwent arthroscopic surgery on the labrum in his right shoulder in 2004 but did not miss any playing time. As a senior, he was a focal point of the Tigers' offense, racking up 84 receptions for 834 yards (9.9 average) and eight touchdowns in 14 games. He led the nation's tight ends in receptions per game (6.0) in 2007, broke the school mark for catches in a season and finished his career having started in all 50 games, another Missouri record. For his career, he also had 16 rushing attempts for 56 yards and showed special teams value, with nine tackles. He is the younger brother of Carolina Panthers defensive end Mike Rucker. Rucker has tremendous experience and there's no questioning his production at the highest collegiate level. He has room on his frame to add bulk but he is essentially an overgrown wide receiver that spent most of his time flexed out in Missouri's spread offense. Until he gets bigger, stronger and more physical as a blocker, he can only be considered an H-back by NFL standards. Plus, while he improved his feet over the course of the last year, Rucker still comes up short in terms of explosiveness and doesn't play as fast as his 40-time might indicate. As such, Rucker has value for teams in search of a No. 2 pass-catching type, but not before the third round.

[Scott Campbell]

jeez you guys, can't even take a potty break here and you guys got 2-3 pages ahead. :P

In the 2nd and 4th rounds, you better keep a bed pan in your draft room.

[CaliforniaCheez]

jeez you guys, can't even take a potty break here and you guys got 2-3 pages ahead. :P

Fill your empties at the computer.

Just drink from the cold ones not the warm ones.

[imscott72]

Cowboys trade down yet again....Browns on the clock.

I hate to say it, but do the Cowboys have any needs left?

[oregonpackfan]

jeez you guys, can't even take a potty break here and you guys got 2-3 pages ahead. :P

007,

I suspect some of those guys keep an empty milk jug by their recliners so they won't miss draft action for a "potty break."

[GrnBay007]

jeez you guys, can't even take a potty break here and you guys got 2-3 pages ahead. :P

Fill your empties at the computer.

Just drink from the cold ones not the warm ones.

Ewww!!!

:P

[Bretsky]

jeez you guys, can't even take a potty break here and you guys got 2-3 pages ahead. :P

Gotta stay away from the toys everytime you head in there; bills for batteries get too high

[Rastak]

Wow, Brwons gave up a 3 next year to get Rucker...Cowboys kinda fleeced them.

[GrnBay007]

jeez you guys, can't even take a potty break here and you guys got 2-3 pages ahead. :P

007,

I suspect some of those guys keep an empty milk jug by their recliners so they won't miss draft action for a "potty break."

LOL I guess I'm a "rookie" ....and a milk jug wouldn't work so well.

[Bretsky]

we have 2 more 4th round picks and one 7th round pick.
my guess is TT goes OL next

He's probably looking for trade down partners

Draft IKE in round 7 !!

[Lurker64]

Browns trading next years draft for 4th rounders today?


Side note, Campbell, Safety from Army....I wouldn't mind grabbing him. 6'1" 238, 4.38 speed at Safety.

Plus, if you draft him then he doesn't have to go to Iraq. I imagine Green Bay is, in almost every way, preferable to Iraq.

[Rastak]

Benglas take OT Collins - finally off the board:


Strengths: Possesses an outstanding frame and has added bulk. Is tall with long arms (35 inches) and big hands (10.2 inches). Can get set quickly in pass pro. Has long arms to ride pass rushers wide. When set properly, he will do a good job of anchoring versus the bull rush. Displays adequate initial quickness. Stays under control in space and will do a good job of hitting the moving target so long as he's in position in time. Struggles to reach second-level in time and winds up lunging too frequently. Has some upside if he's willing to work at getting stronger and more technically sound at the next level.

Weaknesses: Not a natural knee bender. Comes out of his stance too high. Does not show the lateral agility to consistently mirror-and-slide versus double move in pass pro. Plays too high and needs to learn to use more consistent leverage. His footwork is sloppy. Not aggressive enough in pass pro and absorbs too much. Very inconsistent.

Overall: Collins redshirted in 2004 before playing eight games and making one start as a freshman in 2005. He started 12 games at right tackle as a sophomore, before moving to left tackle as a junior. In 2007, he made 11 starts, missing one game (and coming off the bench in another) because of a minor ankle injury. Collins was selected as an Associated Press first-team All-American and Outland Trophy finalist in his final season. Collins will likely need at least a year of polishing before he's ready to contribute in the NFL. His footwork is spotty, he must improve his explosive power and most importantly he needs to play with more consistent leverage. However, Collins is still worth considering in the late-second to third round range simply because his combination of frame and feet cannot be taught. If developed properly, Collins can emerge as a solid starting tackle (probably better suited at ROT in the NFL) a year or two from now.