Will the Pack sign a vet QB

[KYPack]

When Favre was just a pup, he didn't have experienced backups either. Ty Detmer, then they drafted Brunnell and he was #2. Hasselbeck, etc..

The Packers seem to have a history of being willing to go with real young backups.

Agreed. But those pups were backing up the "Ironman".

Hell, you and I cudda been Brett's back-up QB's.

Well, not us, but the Pack hasn't been pressed to have an experienced guy back there for many moons.

I think it's time we do, but TT and MM don't.

So guess what direction we are headed in?

This is one large piece of hindsight here my man. Are you saying that Packer brass knew Favre wouldnt go down any given year? That makes no sense. Plus Pederson, MaMahon..I guess I'm not following your thought process at all here.

Well Sheeps, it wasn't too clearly written, but this is my thinking. When we had two youngbloods backing up Brett, we were lucky. We could've been stranded without a capable QB to lead the team. Something like the immortal TJ Rubley situation.

Yer right, that situation was rectified. Wolf eventually got some vets as back-up.

I don't think we should go "all pup" again. We were lucky once (IMHO), we might not be lucky again. I'd like to be like this:

1. ARod
2. Vwt Back-up
3 Brohm
PS Flynn

I believe in the Lombardi philosophy. Rookies get you beat. You can triple that for Rookie QB's. I think Brohm has the potential to be a solid NFL player, but I don't want him as the primary back-up.

Flynn needs all kinds of experience and I'd like to see him get a year on PS to get a lot more seasoning.

My last comment was that TT & MM seem to be leaning to the "all pup" method. I'd like the vet in the two spot.

Ya know?

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i don't care if the vet goes in and wins games. i want someone older or more mature that if rodgers or brohm go in and completely suck the place up, this guy can step up and say. ok, i've been there, calm down, heres what i think is the problem

right now if the young guys screw up they have no one to turn to for help. and i don't mean coaches. i mean peers, other players

i think thats important. not a guy that comes in to win games if we need them, but a guy the young guys can turn to for help. thats why i suggested someone like brunell. a guy thats been there and knows he's past his prime, but has seen it all and can help out

culpepper on the other hand, i feel, is a guy who would come here for one reason only. to try and win the starting job, he won't help the young guys beat him out at all

[sheepshead]

Yeah KY, I'm with ya actually. We have a very good team, no denying that. It would be a cryin' shame if ARod goes down in week 2 for a few weeks or more and the only thing we're missing is someone that knows the playbook and can move the chains.

p.s. Im watching the Cubs and Brewers and I just saw a guy with one of last years Packer knit hats that sold out so fast--ahhh the memories!

[StPaulPackFan]

I would rather have 2 rookies with potential and possibly hugh upsides rather than a veteran who is "junk".

IMO, just because a guy is a veteran doesn't mean he will be perform well when called upon. Likewise, just because a guy is a rookie doesn't mean he will perform poorly when called upon...

[Rich McGeorge]

Back when we had Brunell and Detmer backing up Brett we had a coach who knew how to groom QBs. One of the reasons MM was brought in was his ability to groom and manage QBs. I'm a little surprised we didn't draft a young QB last year. IT wouldn't be a threat to AR any more than to Brett in the early days; Ron Wolf was always bringing in QBs to develop, and I'm glad we're going back to that model.

BTW, Majkowski was still pretty young and was a decent QB. We were lucky to have a good, young guy waiting in the wings when he went down. Why not have the same kind of insurance for AR?

[run pMc]

I'll preface this by saying that I wasn't high on Brohm in general, and especially for GB at 30 or 36, but am warming up to him where TT got him.

Having said that, the thing I've read about Brohm is he's the most ready -- right now -- of any of the big names in this year's QB draft class. Maybe with enough reps in OTAs and TC he could come off the bench mid-season and not completely crap the bed. That assumes Rodgers would have to survive until mid-season...who knows, maybe he'll toughen up now that he's the starter. For this season, that's one of the big questions.

I think right now, there's junk for QB's on the FA market . There should be a few QB's that are cut soon, but there won't be any Mannings. So the theory that we might as well go with the pups (who might be junk) than a vet is risky, but not all that crazy.

Not that TT cares, but my personal preference would be to see them bring in a vet as the #2 and develop Brohm. Flynn is destined for either GB's practice squad or CHI's starting gig.

Culfumbler is crap. He doesn't read defenses well and his turnovers come in bunches.

[Patler]

I'm a little surprised we didn't draft a young QB last year.

Last year is the only year he hasn't drafted a QB. But he still had Ingle Martin from the draft in 2006, and he signed Paul Thompson. So they had a couple young guys to work with, but neither panned out.

[Bretsky]

Back when we had Brunell and Detmer backing up Brett we had a coach who knew how to groom QBs. One of the reasons MM was brought in was his ability to groom and manage QBs. I'm a little surprised we didn't draft a young QB last year. IT wouldn't be a threat to AR any more than to Brett in the early days; Ron Wolf was always bringing in QBs to develop, and I'm glad we're going back to that model.

BTW, Majkowski was still pretty young and was a decent QB. We were lucky to have a good, young guy waiting in the wings when he went down. Why not have the same kind of insurance for AR?

Completely agree; we knew Ingle wasn't going to make it relatively soon. If Flynn doesn't cut it I'd be OK if we nab another one in next year's draft.


BTW, Welcome to Packerrats Rich

[Badgerinmaine]

BTW, Welcome to Packerrats Rich

Seconded! You've found a great place--one where we even remember who Rich McGeorge was

[MadtownPacker]

BTW, Welcome to Packerrats Rich

Seconded! You've found a great place--one where we even remember who Rich McGeorge was

Yeah, welcome to the forum man.

So who the hell is Rich McGeorge?

[RashanGary]

I just think you have to build your team to win the big game. If you don't think there is a QB out there that has a chance of being good enough tp bring your team to the SB, he's not worth bringing in. If Rodgers goes down we're done. If Rodgers sucks we're done. Sometimes there is nothing that can be done immediately if you don't have a QB. Opportunities present themselves, but you really can't force a champion QB onto your team in a short amount of time. Keep looking. Keep an open mind. Keep trying. Teams that take one and sell out on that guy only get one chance. We now have two chances and if these two don't look promising, I think Ted will keep scowering for more.

[KYPack]

BTW, Welcome to Packerrats Rich

Seconded! You've found a great place--one where we even remember who Rich McGeorge was

Yeah, welcome to the forum man.

So who the hell is Rich McGeorge?

A TE from the "wilderness period" of the 70's.

A blue collar plodder of a guy who always played hard, if not too well.

Think Bubba blanco.

Welcome aboard, Rich.

We got a real wrecking crew developing here.

[cpk1994]

When Favre was just a pup, he didn't have experienced backups either. Ty Detmer, then they drafted Brunnell and he was #2. Hasselbeck, etc..

The Packers seem to have a history of being willing to go with real young backups.

Agreed. But those pups were backing up the "Ironman".

Hell, you and I cudda been Brett's back-up QB's.

Well, not us, but the Pack hasn't been pressed to have an experienced guy back there for many moons.

I think it's time we do, but TT and MM don't.

So guess what direction we are headed in?

You didn't know at the time Favre was an ironman now did you? IT was the same risk then, as it is now.

[Chubbyhubby]

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Didn't Thompson say that they made an offer to Culpepper before the draft but he wanted to wait and weigh his options?

I was watching ESPN coverage of the draft and thats what Mort was saying about Cullpeper. That he was offered a contract with the packers but Cullpepper waited after the draft to make his desion. Basically TT made that desion for him by drafting 2 QBs? Has there been any team that in recent memory that drafted 2 QB's in the same draft class?

[KYPack]

When Favre was just a pup, he didn't have experienced backups either. Ty Detmer, then they drafted Brunnell and he was #2. Hasselbeck, etc..

The Packers seem to have a history of being willing to go with real young backups.

Agreed. But those pups were backing up the "Ironman".

Hell, you and I cudda been Brett's back-up QB's.

Well, not us, but the Pack hasn't been pressed to have an experienced guy back there for many moons.

I think it's time we do, but TT and MM don't.

So guess what direction we are headed in?

You didn't know at the time Favre was an ironman now did you? IT was the same risk then, as it is now.

Well, I tried to explain this once, but here goes.

I agree with you, It's a risk to have 3 young QB's on the roster. I feel a helluva a lot more comfortable with a guy that knows the ropes on the team to come in for injury purposes. Think Zeke Bratkowski, Earl morral, Steve DeBerg, etc, etc.

It isn't always true. NE won an SB with a young baack-up, so did St Louey.

I want ARod, a vet, & Brohem as our back-up QB's. Matt Flynn can do just as much good on PS as he can being on the roster, but we are at a lot more risk carrying him on the 53.

No, I didn't KNOW Brett was the ironman, but iIm sure glad I found out.