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Thompson says he'll trade back if he has many players rated equally and is going back a short enough distance where he knows he can get one of the equally high players rated on his board. If he can't trade back he takes the guy he needs most. He'll trade up if the quality is there. With that in mind and listening to the post draft press conferences, here's what I think happened and what it means.
Jordy Nelson - The Packers didn't need a reciever at all. Based on what Thompson says, he had a few players rated equally so they felt moving back would allow them to pick up an extra pick and get one of the equally rated players. I think Thompson fell in love with Nelson similarly to the way he fell in love with Harrell last year. He didn't want to take an equally rated player at a positoin of need so he dropped back knowing the other guys would get scooped up and he could take the guy he wanted all along. Result, Jordy Nelson is a Packer.
VALUE - Solid value. Thompson loved him and Thompson seems great with WR's. Expect a borderline probowler.
Brian Brohm - Thompson and McCarthy had him rated very high. They said they tried to move up, but luckily he ended up falling in their lap. I think the Packers feel very fortunate to have him for a late 2nd round pick.
VALUE - McCarthy loved him. Expect true competition starting next year.
Patrick Lee - I think there were probably multiple players rated equally, but the Packers need a CB so badly that rather than entertaining offers, they just take the guy they really need and move on. They don't "need" too many extra picks so they make a decisoin that isn't value concious, but rather need concious (the kind I dread because often times they don't live up to their draft position).
VALUE - Poor value. The Packers needed him. Expect a ST's player that never lives up to his draft status. Don't expect much more than you do of Finley or Jeremy Thompson.
Jermichael Finley - Again, like with Patrick Lee, the Packers really needed a TE. They had a couple players available but they don't "NEED" more picks so they just take the guy that their roster needs the most. This again is not a value decision, it's a need decision
VALUE - Moderate value. Thompson said they wanted a TE but only if it made sense. It must have made sense. High potential guyt that could be a probowler and could impregnate 7 females and end up in jail for beating one of them.
Jeremy Thompson - With the Finley decision, I think they had a couple players rated the same. One of the others is this guy. 11 picks after they selected Finley, they move up 11 picks to get this guy. I think he and Finley were on the same tier. Thompson took the need first and moved up to take the other later. I think we can consider these two equally rated prospects.
VALUE - Really good value for the spot. Thompson had to feel he was the best available. Probably just as good of a prospect as Finley even though picked later.
Josh Sitton - A Ted Thompson special. He's sick of moving down. He loves his small school kids. He takes the best player, but since there are many he takes the on that fits need most. He wants more competition at OG. He's sick of the mediocrity.
VALUE - Solid value. Later in the draft, Thompson said it didn't make sense to keep moving back. He wanted higher picks next year, but couldn't get them so he took a guard to compete with the guys we have.
Breno Giacomini - The Packers really need a tackle. The way their board works out, they finially get a chance to take one. Why not take another high potential, high risk guy similar to Tony Moll a few years ago.
VALUE - OK, Thompson will never do anytyhing stupid, but this is a bit of a need pick. Could easily be rated the same as Flynn or Swain.
Matt Flynn - Right now, the Packers don't even want another QB, but they can't believe Flynn is still here. Thompson said in his presser that he couldn't believe the guys that were still available late in the draft. He really doesn't want this position, but he can't pass him up.
VALUE Great value. The Packers don't even want him, but have to take him because they feel he's too good to pass up
Brett Swain - The last thing the Packers need right now is a WR, but they had him rated in the 5th round and at this point they have no choice. They have to take him just because they feel he's too good to pass up.
VALUE - Best value in the draft. They don't want him at all because they have so many good WR's. Based on them picking him, I think he has a chance to beat out Ruvell and Robinson. I woudln't be surpised if next years WR's are Driver, Jennings, Nelson, Jones and Swain. Thompson said he couldn't believe who was available at the end. I think this is another he was talking about.
Like with the Bradon Jackson and Colledge picks, I think there are a few streches here, but Thompson is good at evaluationg talent and I'm sure he wont' reach too badly. I just don't expect Lee and Giacomini to live up to their draft positions and I think Finley has a higher bust rate than the typcical Thompson pick but he over-looked it to fill a need. I also think all of the attention he's getting is going to his head a bit. He feels he can do no wrong so swayed more than usual from what got him here.
Jordy Nelson - The Packers didn't need a reciever at all. Based on what Thompson says, he had a few players rated equally so they felt moving back would allow them to pick up an extra pick and get one of the equally rated players. I think Thompson fell in love with Nelson similarly to the way he fell in love with Harrell last year. He didn't want to take an equally rated player at a positoin of need so he dropped back knowing the other guys would get scooped up and he could take the guy he wanted all along. Result, Jordy Nelson is a Packer.
VALUE - Solid value. Thompson loved him and Thompson seems great with WR's. Expect a borderline probowler.
Brian Brohm - Thompson and McCarthy had him rated very high. They said they tried to move up, but luckily he ended up falling in their lap. I think the Packers feel very fortunate to have him for a late 2nd round pick.
VALUE - McCarthy loved him. Expect true competition starting next year.
Patrick Lee - I think there were probably multiple players rated equally, but the Packers need a CB so badly that rather than entertaining offers, they just take the guy they really need and move on. They don't "need" too many extra picks so they make a decisoin that isn't value concious, but rather need concious (the kind I dread because often times they don't live up to their draft position).
VALUE - Poor value. The Packers needed him. Expect a ST's player that never lives up to his draft status. Don't expect much more than you do of Finley or Jeremy Thompson.
Jermichael Finley - Again, like with Patrick Lee, the Packers really needed a TE. They had a couple players available but they don't "NEED" more picks so they just take the guy that their roster needs the most. This again is not a value decision, it's a need decision
VALUE - Moderate value. Thompson said they wanted a TE but only if it made sense. It must have made sense. High potential guyt that could be a probowler and could impregnate 7 females and end up in jail for beating one of them.
Jeremy Thompson - With the Finley decision, I think they had a couple players rated the same. One of the others is this guy. 11 picks after they selected Finley, they move up 11 picks to get this guy. I think he and Finley were on the same tier. Thompson took the need first and moved up to take the other later. I think we can consider these two equally rated prospects.
VALUE - Really good value for the spot. Thompson had to feel he was the best available. Probably just as good of a prospect as Finley even though picked later.
Josh Sitton - A Ted Thompson special. He's sick of moving down. He loves his small school kids. He takes the best player, but since there are many he takes the on that fits need most. He wants more competition at OG. He's sick of the mediocrity.
VALUE - Solid value. Later in the draft, Thompson said it didn't make sense to keep moving back. He wanted higher picks next year, but couldn't get them so he took a guard to compete with the guys we have.
Breno Giacomini - The Packers really need a tackle. The way their board works out, they finially get a chance to take one. Why not take another high potential, high risk guy similar to Tony Moll a few years ago.
VALUE - OK, Thompson will never do anytyhing stupid, but this is a bit of a need pick. Could easily be rated the same as Flynn or Swain.
Matt Flynn - Right now, the Packers don't even want another QB, but they can't believe Flynn is still here. Thompson said in his presser that he couldn't believe the guys that were still available late in the draft. He really doesn't want this position, but he can't pass him up.
VALUE Great value. The Packers don't even want him, but have to take him because they feel he's too good to pass up
Brett Swain - The last thing the Packers need right now is a WR, but they had him rated in the 5th round and at this point they have no choice. They have to take him just because they feel he's too good to pass up.
VALUE - Best value in the draft. They don't want him at all because they have so many good WR's. Based on them picking him, I think he has a chance to beat out Ruvell and Robinson. I woudln't be surpised if next years WR's are Driver, Jennings, Nelson, Jones and Swain. Thompson said he couldn't believe who was available at the end. I think this is another he was talking about.
Like with the Bradon Jackson and Colledge picks, I think there are a few streches here, but Thompson is good at evaluationg talent and I'm sure he wont' reach too badly. I just don't expect Lee and Giacomini to live up to their draft positions and I think Finley has a higher bust rate than the typcical Thompson pick but he over-looked it to fill a need. I also think all of the attention he's getting is going to his head a bit. He feels he can do no wrong so swayed more than usual from what got him here.
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