Brett speculation from LeRoy Butler

[sharpe1027]

Re: Favre

Yes, the Packers put Brett on the Retired list which takes his contract off the salary cap count. Brett WILL NOT be traded becuase no team will take on that contract, especially considering it would probably for one year. The Packers have moved on, its time Brett shut up and move on as well.

Thanks, that's what I thought. So basically, people have been looking for excuses to make this a story. I've read over and over again about how he is coming back because there is no reason why he hasn't filed his retirement papers, but low-and-behold, it has nothing to do with his actual retirement. It only matters if he wants to claim retirement benefits. Considering how much money he's made, I doubt that's high on his list.

I haven't read or heard anything that Brett has said that leads me to believe he is coming back. Brett has said he isn't coming back. Everything else is just people looking for something that isn't there, just like the whole retirement papers thing.

[Pacopete4]

thats another thing too.. no need to sign the papers. #1- it doesn't affect the team at all, and #2- it does leave that door open for a return if he does feel so strongly that he did make the mistake.


Too much is being made about what other people are saying about what Brett Favre is thinking.. people need to leave it alone until he, himself says that he is coming back, otherwise it's like he said... HE"S RETIRED!

[MJZiggy]

I think the real test will be when training camp starts and BF has the urge to pull somebody's pants down or rip a nasty ass fart or pinch someone on the back of the arm. Will Deanna be able to take it?

That's what he's got brothers for...

[cpk1994]

thats another thing too.. no need to sign the papers. #1- it doesn't affect the team at all, and #2- it does leave that door open for a return if he does feel so strongly that he did make the mistake.


Too much is being made about what other people are saying about what Brett Favre is thinking.. people need to leave it alone until he, himself says that he is coming back, otherwise it's like he said... HE"S RETIRED!

Again, the papers mean NOTHING orther than retirement benefits . He can come back even if he signs the papers. I don't know why people continue to obsess over the papers.

[Merlin]

Negotiations for Rodgers next contract will start during or after this season as they always do for players who will be within less then two years until the end of their contract. Rodgers I believe is getting paid 1st round #24 pay and has a bunch of high paying incentives in his contract that he hasn't had the chance to escalate to yet. If Favre is here this season, how do you accurately extend Rodgers contract beyond 2009 as you do with most other players during the 2008 season or prior to the 2009 season? Does he deserve more then the vet minimum for being a backup QB or do you continue to pay him his draft status pay when Favre hangs em up after this season?

I can't answer that, no one can. That is a legitimate dilemma right now for Thompson. Did it play into any of the way he treated or didn't treat Favre in the off season? I have no idea. But don't dismiss Rodgers contract so quickly, there is some merit to that.

[woodbuck27]

On a side note, I'd love to trade him for a 2nd round pick.

I hope that was a sarcastic remark...

If not that should be nominated for the dumbest post ever...

Ditto. . but I won't say dumb,rather ill thought out JH.Think about it JH et all:

1.Favre was arguably the best offensive player in the NFC in 2007. What, "Air Player of the week five times".

2. He just passed for more than 4100 yards and 28 TD's! Yes he set the All -Time pick record too.

Does it seem right to dump him to whatever team for a lousy hit or miss draft pick?

3. This is a sure fired first round and possibly unanomous HOFer after the voting.

4. This is a man loved by more Packer fans than not.

5. This is a man that owns every important passing record in the NFL.

Favre busted his balls for the team in 2007. He was 110% committed. He did all he could to fulfill his desire to get to the Super Bowl. His reality said " that he needed more rest prior to the 2008 regular schedule ". It's coming out that possibly? The Packer Team Management wasn't "in fact" behind his return in 2008. Why if that's the case should the Packer hide behind falsehoods?

The solution:

Give Favre his outright release if he wants to play again. Let the cards fall from there. Afterall, what would it have cost TT's beanbank to see him return Vs retire?

I hope this doesn't get messy but I do believe Brett Favre is having second thoughts of retiring and knows he can still play. Of course, he wants to play for his team. That's . . . in that man. Brett Favre needs to compete. He knows he can. This story won't go away because Favre maybe felt, he needed more support? Another real talent on offense.

Brett Favre or Aaron Rodgers and about $5 Million more in Ted's huge pot of Packer Gold? An easy answer to that question for any fan that wants to win in 2008.

PACKERS FOREVER!

[woodbuck27]

Bottom line: I want Favre back for the 2008 season.

I want to win. I'm selfish.

[The Leaper]

If Favre is here this season, how do you accurately extend Rodgers contract beyond 2009 as you do with most other players during the 2008 season or prior to the 2009 season?

Even after playing a full season in 2008, I doubt Thompson will be ready to give Rodgers a massive new long-term contract (which is really the only contract Rodgers will be looking to accept at that point) with Brohm waiting in the wings.

The bottom line is that Rodgers' contract situation will probably still be up in the air after this season unless he remains injury free and plays lights out over 16 games. Obviously, that is a possibility (we all hope it happens) but the chances are better that Rodgers will have some struggles in his first season as a starter.

I just think you are reading way too much into it. In fact, if Rodgers has a relatively good year in 2008...but not good enough that you are entirely certain of his potential or durability...I think his contract situation actually becomes MORE DIFFICULT for Thompson to deal with. It will drive his price up, potentially to a point higher than Thompson will be willing to pay.

[sharpe1027]

Favre is done and Elvis is dead.
End of line.
That's all she wrote.
The fat lady has sung.
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
The horse is dead.
Thanks for coming, be sure to tip your waitstaff on the way out.

Could I be wrong about both? Yes. You can find things here and there to build a case either way, but weighing all the evidence, I've come to the conclusion that it is over.

[Packerarcher]

I dont understand why people are saying it's too late? We are not even to mini camp yet. What is he missing that he would be doing if he did not retire? I understand that Arod would be jerked around but really, who cares? Isn't the best thing for the Packers is to have the best available on the field? Well thats Brett Favre. Even if you want a new era to start (which, why the hell would u?) Brett Favre is our best option at least for this season. Hell the best thing might be him coming back giving Brohm a year to learn and take over.

I could not agree more,even though unfortunenately I don't think Brett is coming back. If he wanted to it would be the best thing for this team. I have said it before and I will say it again. Those of you that think Rodgers is just going to step in and fill the shoes of Brett Favre are sadly mistaken.