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    Mmmmmm...a delicious pitcher of Kool-Aid...

    Gulp, gulp!
    Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
    Vince Lombardi

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    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #3
      Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
      Vince Lombardi

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      • #4
        I'll be curious to see the dline and Rodgers. If Jolly, Harrell and Rodgers show up kickin ass in preseason, I'll start sippin the sweet stuff. If these guys don't look good, I could see a very average season.
        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
          I'll be curious to see the dline and Rodgers. If Jolly, Harrell and Rodgers show up kickin ass in preseason, I'll start sippin the sweet stuff. If these guys don't look good, I could see a very average season.
          Somebody has to fill the void left by Cory Williams on the pass rush and pressures at the DT position

          The OG position has to step up and be consistent

          AROD has to show consistency

          Not too big of a falloff due to age at CB and OT (I'm most confident in this)

          If the above does not occur we're just decent IMO.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #6
            I think the interior OL is the key. If they can attain some consistency in the running game, I think ARod has the talent and the weapons to make the offense go.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #7
              Fluffy like a pillow.

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              • #8
                It feels good to be a winner.

                I'm not too worried. The coaching staff is working these players into solid pros.

                Why worry about Blackmon's foot, Clifton's durability, or things beyond control??

                The quantity of players is becoming quality players and many cut will find jobs elsewhere.

                Life is good.

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                • #9
                  This team has a ton of questions, I guess it is all on how you want to look at them. I think they will be a 9-7 or 10-6 type team. The oline, mostly interior is a question, can Grant do it all year and is Jackson a capable second stringer, Rodgers is a huge question, no passrushing DE found to surplant Jenkins/KGB, the corners age and the S play. My biggest question is can Rodgers stay healthy and can they find a passrush because it was missing for the last 8 games of the season last year and that was with 99.
                  Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                  • #10
                    Good article.

                    Ultimately, it's all going to come down to Aaron Rodgers. I have a good feeling about that, though. Brett Favre had a great year last season after going through extraordinary preparation. However, prior to that, his game had been slowly degrading--to the point where Favre without the special prep would have been passed up by the improving Rodgers--IMO.

                    Secondarily, as somebody said, the O Line needs to pick up where it left off. that means the interior three--whoever that ends up being--needs to improve more than Clifton and Tauscher degrade with age. I think that is a reasonable expectation. Last year's injuries gave the Packers a better degree of depth and experience playing together for more players.

                    Beyond that, the draft should bring improvement and depth at the various other positions cited, with no regressing at all--with the possible exception of QB.

                    So if Rodgers comes through, there's no reason the Packers shouldn't do at least as well as last season--other than little things like luck, injuries, and the prospect of a more difficult schedule.
                    What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CaliforniaCheez
                      It feels good to be a winner.

                      I'm not too worried. The coaching staff is working these players into solid pros.

                      Why worry about Blackmon's foot, Clifton's durability, or things beyond control??

                      The quantity of players is becoming quality players and many cut will find jobs elsewhere.

                      Life is good.

                      What did you win?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rastak
                        What did you win?
                        Being a Vikings fan, I don't think you want to go there.
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #13
                          McCarthy had some very complimentary things to say in todays press gazette article. I'm getting more and more excited to see Rodgers play. Common sense says you should doubt a first year starter, but there is a part of me that remembers how well he played coming in cold in the Dallas game, sees how strong armed and mobile he is and listens to the coaches speak about how well he understands and runs the offense. That part of me wants to be very optimistic. If Rodgers can play similarly to guys like Rivers, Rothisberger and Romo have early, I think the Packers have every bit as much of a chance as they would have with a 39 year old Favre.


                          Two things I'm looking for with Rodgers that will be an improvement over Brett:

                          1. They can use more moving pockets with Rodgers rolling out. This sets up the stretch zone runs because lineman can't tell if it's a stretch run or a roll out pass. Denver does this to set up their run game.

                          2. When they go 4 or 5 wide, they have one more weapon that we didn't have last season - that is Rodgers abilty to run for first downs. Well, Jordy Nelson over Krob too. Defenses were playing all out against the pass last year in 5 wide. They would use LB's to cover short stuff, CB's to press recievers and safeties to protect deep. Nobody was watchign the QB. Now, teams will either have to watch Rodgers and open up something else or sell out on the pass, giving Rodgers the ablity to pikc up an easy 7. If Rodgers is as good of a decision maker, as mobile, strong armed and accurate as they say, he should be able to tear defenses apart when they spread them out.


                          Overall there are no limiations. He can make every throw. He knows the entire playbook. He understands the entire offense. He can move. He is accurate. How will he respond under pressure? All we have is the Dallas game to judge that, but it does look like he has a chance, maybe a good chance and if it works out the Packers shouldn't miss a beat. Damn, that would be exciting becuase it might mean another 10 years of NFCN dominance and Viking/Bear/Lion envy to deal with.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #14
                            This pre season is going to be more interesting than it has been in years. Every year is interesting because you want to see what you have, but this year, with the QB position changing for the first time in ages, it's even more intriguing.

                            I'll be at OTA's. I don't know how to judge the QB position, so I won't be watching that, but I do remember watching last year and not noticing any change when Favre came out and Rodgers came in. The offense didn't stumble at all with Rodgers and now Rodgers will have the advantage of playing with the same starting group that all know what they are doing rather than the B team that was just learning the scheme.
                            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rastak


                              What did you win?
                              Poor Rastak..he's probably had enough Grain Belt after last season that his memory is fading...
                              Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                              Vince Lombardi

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