8 in the box vs. GB offensive line

[GoPackGo]

The GB offensive line might be in for a rude awakening this year. Favre's experience and elusiveness masked the shortfallings of the Oline. Teams will stack 8 in the box until Rodgers proves he can beat them with the pass. Are we doomed to a long year of watching Grant's rushing opportunities take a step back while Rodgers struggles to get the pass going?

[Tony Oday]

I WOULD LOVE 8 guys in the box against Rogers he would put up MVP numbers with our WR corp and Donald Lee. I say bring it!

[MJZiggy]

That's what I'm saying too. Isn't that what Dallas tried that almost cost them the game against us last year? Or did Rodgers simply come in and outplay them from the pocket?

[Joemailman]

8 in the box will work against a rookie who doesn't really know what he is doing. It will sometimes work against a team that doesn't have the receivers to be a threat downfield. It can work against a weak-armed QB who can't get the ball downfield. I don't think any of these situations apply to the Packers.

[bobblehead]

you know I have been reading message boards for about 6 years now, and I am amazed at how many people think every pick favre threw was a wrong route and every productive player on the team was only a by-product of favre greatness.

Note to all....that line wasn't THAT bad last year. I admit, a young QB will probably take a few more sacks this year, but I'm willing to bet the total will still be under 25.

[ahaha]

If a team thought it was going against a bad o-line and could get pressure with the front four, it would pretty stupid to put 8 guys in the box.

[Packnut]

WR

8 in the box would be commiting defensive suicide against our 5 wide set. It will very seldom happen if at all. Rodgers has had ample time to learn and he learned from the master.

It's unfortunate that Sherman never had the brains to get quality WR's and go 4 or 5 wide. Favre would have not just broken records, but rather shattered them. It's also a shame Teddy waited until the end, but better late than never...............

[Partial]

Re: 8 in the box vs. GB offensive line

The GB offensive line might be in for a rude awakening this year. Favre's experience and elusiveness masked the shortfallings of the Oline. Teams will stack 8 in the box until Rodgers proves he can beat them with the pass. Are we doomed to a long year of watching Grant's rushing opportunities take a step back while Rodgers struggles to get the pass going?

It is what I suspect will happen.

[Patler]

Re: WR

It's unfortunate that Sherman never had the brains to get quality WR's and go 4 or 5 wide. Favre would have not just broken records, but rather shattered them. It's also a shame Teddy waited until the end, but better late than never...............

Waited until the end? How did he wait until the end?

By drafting Murphy, Jennings and Jones in successive years in the only drafts he had while Favre was on the team?
By drafting additional receivers in the 6th and 4th and 5th rounds of those same three drafts?
By going out and finding Lee in his first season in GB?
By signing a WR in the first season who had been the 15th pick in the draft? By signing a WR the second season who had been a 9th pick in the draft?
By drafting a TE and signing numerous undrafted FA tight ends?

He had only three seasons with Favre, and worked at giving him better receivers each and every one of those seasons. Just when and how did he wait??????

[Patler]

Re: WR

It's unfortunate that Sherman never had the brains to get quality WR's and go 4 or 5 wide.

I think Sherman did try to go with 4 and 5 WRs, the only problem was the "receiver" he brought in all those times was Kevin Barry!

[Packnut]

Re: WR

It's unfortunate that Sherman never had the brains to get quality WR's and go 4 or 5 wide. Favre would have not just broken records, but rather shattered them. It's also a shame Teddy waited until the end, but better late than never...............

Waited until the end? How did he wait until the end?

By drafting Murphy, Jennings and Jones in successive years in the only drafts he had while Favre was on the team?
By drafting additional receivers in the 6th and 4th and 5th rounds of those same three drafts?
By going out and finding Lee in his first season in GB?
By signing a WR in the first season who had been the 15th pick in the draft? By signing a WR the second season who had been a 9th pick in the draft?
By drafting a TE and signing numerous undrafted FA tight ends?

He had only three seasons with Favre, and worked at giving him better receivers each and every one of those seasons. Just when and how did he wait??????

There was a FA named Owens. May-be you've heard of him????????? There was a guy named Moss who set all kinds of freakin records there for the taking before last season. Both played for a reasonable amount of cash and would'nt have broken the bank. Both PRODUCE results.

There was also a guy named Welker who had one helluva season, also a FA. I could go on and name a few more but I think you get the point.

And please all of you "personality" fanatics spare me the constant refrain of they are not "Packer people". The NFL to me is about winning plain and simple. Screw the baggage crap cause in the end the ONLY thing that counts is winning.

[Packnut]

Favre

Oh and one last point because I'm sure I'll hear the other popular refrain around here about building for the future. The NFL is a crap-shoot at best. Favre said it himself before the championship game about how hard it is to get there and how ya just might never get back.

Favre proved what he could do with some talent last season. Just think about what he could have done with some grade A prime talent. I would have settled for loading up and getting a few SB's and then go on a 5yr rebuilding program.

[Lurker64]

Re: WR

There was also a guy named Welker who had one helluva season, also a FA. I could go on and name a few more but I think you get the point.

Welker was an RFA and not a UFA, the Pats gave up their 2007 2nd and 7th round picks to get him. By comparison, our 2007 2nd and 7th round picks were used to obtain Brandon Jackson, Aaron Rouse, and Korey Hall. It's not really as simple as "Should have signed Welker". I'm not saying that Jackson, Rouse, and Hall are necessarily better to have than Welker, but considering all those guys are young and still have upside the choice is somewhat ambiguous.

[Patler]

Re: WR

There was a FA named Owens. May-be you've heard of him????????? There was a guy named Moss who set all kinds of freakin records there for the taking before last season. Both played for a reasonable amount of cash and would'nt have broken the bank. Both PRODUCE results.

There was also a guy named Welker who had one helluva season, also a FA. I could go on and name a few more but I think you get the point.

But you stated "It's also a shame Teddy waited until the end, but better late than never..............." (Emphasis added.) You are implying that he did something early and is now doing something different. In fact, he did not wait, but has been very consistent.

I clearly do not get your references to various big name FAs. He still has not gone after them. He still follows his same course.

I think what TT has proven is that you can vastly upgrade a position without going after free agents that can provide risks of various sorts whether it be financial, health or personality.

[Fritz]

Re: Favre

Oh and one last point because I'm sure I'll hear the other popular refrain around here about building for the future. The NFL is a crap-shoot at best. Favre said it himself before the championship game about how hard it is to get there and how ya just might never get back.

Favre proved what he could do with some talent last season. Just think about what he could have done with some grade A prime talent. I would have settled for loading up and getting a few SB's and then go on a 5yr rebuilding program.

Moss + Brady = Second place.

Owens + Romo = First round playoff loss.

And don't tell me, please, that Brady and Romo are journeyman QB's, and Favre, at the late stage of his career, was significantly better than either. Or that those two teams didn't have the talent to surround those QB's and receivers that the Packers had.

You make it appear that if TT had signed Moss or Owens, a SB would've been guaranteed. I do not agree.