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  • #16
    aS THE gIANTS NOTED BEFORE THE NFC Championship game, they will stop the run and make the passing game beat them.
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    • #17
      I alluded to this 8 in the box thing--stopping the run first--in the poll on Rodgers TD passes thread.

      I'm thinking that as teams do this, Rodgers gets off to a great start with a lot of TD passes. Then, when they go back to a little more normal coverage, Grant goes to work.
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      • #18
        I've never heard 8 in the box referred to before as a way of pressuring the QB. It's typically to stuff a running game that can't otherwise be contained.

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        • #19
          Re: Favre

          Originally posted by Packnut
          Oh and one last point because I'm sure I'll hear the other popular refrain around here about building for the future.


          Well if 13-3 counts as building for the future, then I'm all for it.

          I hardly think Moss, Welker or TO would have changed the outcome of that Giants game.

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          • #20
            I think with Green Bay's WR corps, 8 in the box is not in the cards for the early season. Unless the running game explodes right from the start ( could happen) or Rodgers is completely inept (Like T Jackson was for the first half of last year, which I doubt) then defenses would be stupid to stack the line. The Packers do have a great set of WR's and Nelson should make them even better. I look for teams to defend pass first vs Green Bay.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Rastak
              I think with Green Bay's WR corps, 8 in the box is not in the cards for the early season. Unless the running game explodes right from the start ( could happen) or Rodgers is completely inept (Like T Jackson was for the first half of last year, which I doubt) then defenses would be stupid to stack the line. The Packers do have a great set of WR's and Nelson should make them even better. I look for teams to defend pass first vs Green Bay.
              Agreed. Stacking the box would be a recipe for getting beat quickly against McCarthy's playbook. Rodgers, these receivers and McCarthy's pass-attacking playcalling can certainly beat three DB's with either/both quick passes and a lot of YAC and/or going over the top on the outside with any/all of Driver, Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Lee, Finley and even Martin with his size.

              McCarthy has the personnel and offensive attack that gives the team the ability to dictate defenses and immediately force a defense to take the eighth man out of the box if he would choose to do so.

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              • #22
                ARod will see a good variety of things. He is pretty green so DC will mix it up to try to confuse him.
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                • #23
                  It's going to be a VERY interesting year for sure. Rodgers didn't look the least bit confused or intimidated in the Dallas game. I thought they came right after him and pressured him even more than they did with Brett in. He didn't throw picks. He didn't panic. He got them back in it and almost won it if the defense wasn't a complete sieve that day.

                  Will he show that poise consistantly? Can he make those throws consistantly? If he plays like he played in Dallas, teams will be absolutely shredded (because most teams can't get there the way the Dallas front 7 can). If he's not good, the Packers really are doomed (at least for a year).
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by b bulldog
                    ARod will see a good variety of things. He is pretty green so DC will mix it up to try to confuse him.
                    I recall when Big Ben came into the league, and Romo, that DCs had so little film to work with the QBs got pretty lucky. only later were they slowed down...

                    But as Scott pointed out, 8 in the box is specifically to stop the run, isn't it?

                    I see a shit load of blitzing coming up. A-Rod will need to have his release be quick and the TE better be able to block.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Rastak
                      I think with Green Bay's WR corps, 8 in the box is not in the cards for the early season. Unless the running game explodes right from the start ( could happen) or Rodgers is completely inept (Like T Jackson was for the first half of last year, which I doubt) then defenses would be stupid to stack the line. The Packers do have a great set of WR's and Nelson should make them even better. I look for teams to defend pass first vs Green Bay.
                      Agreed. Teams will force the average run-blocking line to open holes for Grant. If you stack the box against an inexperienced and young QB, you might just give him some confidence. Confidence is huge in QB play. Just ask a young Favre.
                      Originally posted by 3irty1
                      This is museum quality stupidity.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tarlam!

                        I see a shit load of blitzing coming up. A-Rod will need to have his release be quick and the TE better be able to block.
                        ^ Agreed. I think that the interesting thing is that a lot of blitzing often leads to giving up the big runs.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by b bulldog
                          aS THE gIANTS NOTED BEFORE THE NFC Championship game, they will stop the run and make the passing game beat them.
                          when it is -6 degrees I think I could have came up with this game plan.

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                          • #28
                            I don't care if the QB is a 15 year veteran or a 1st year starter the easiest way for them to suceed is giving them single coverage against their wide outs and using linebackers in coverage.

                            Rodgers is going to be a much smarter qb going into his first year as a starter than Favre was. Granted Rodgers has had three years to watch and learn, but Favre was horrible against the blitz his first two years. He couldn't figure it out. He wasn't very good at reading defenses and got by on his pure talent. When Favre put it all together he became the best player in the game for at least 3 years in a row.

                            Rodgers did well in his limited playing time against a very active Cowboys defense. Unfortunately good or bad this game was only 3 quarters of football and to point to the game as evidence that Rodgers will be a great qb is just foolish.

                            So stacking the box against Rodgers is probably going to be a mistake, McCarthy allows his QBs to call audibles, and hopefully Rodgers will have a very good grasp on the offensive scheme.

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                            • #29
                              One other thing, if an opposing defensive coordinator sees the Packers bring 4 or 5 receivers onto the field and still loads the box with 8 defenders should be splashed with gasoline and lit on fire.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                                One other thing, if an opposing defensive coordinator sees the Packers bring 4 or 5 receivers onto the field and still loads the box with 8 defenders should be splashed with gasoline and lit on fire.
                                Yeah were is Slowvik now?
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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