Ted Thompson Cant Draft to Save His Mother's Life!!!

[Guest]

Ted Thompson's draft picks 2005-2007:

2005:

1. Rodgers: Injury-prone qb. Already missed a zillion more games than Brett Favre did in 16 seasons altogether.

2. Collins: underachiever. Starter by default.

2. Murphy: this pick is proof of thompson's incompetence. Murphy had a pre-existing medical condition that Thompson failed to detect. All said, Thompson merely drafted this guy to insult Javon Walker, a pro bowl draft pick by the genius himself, Mike Sherman.

4. Underwood: So bad, Thompson was forced to sign Manuel.

4. Poppinga: An average Joe. Starter by default.

5. Coston: Injury-prone.

5. Hawkins: Who?

6. Montomery? Who?

6. Bragg? Who?

7. Campbel: Who?

7. Whitticker: Thompson replaced Mike Wahle with this guy. Was a starter by default. Gone after a season. Ted Thompson is so fvcking incompetent!

2006:

1. Hawk: Average starter. As the 5th overall pick, shouldnt this guy be playing at a pro bowl level????

2. Colledge: Inconsistent and underachiever. Starter by default.

2. Jennings: Thompson's best pick out of his zillion picks.

3. Hodge: BJ Sanders played more games for the Pack than this guy!!!

3. Splitz: Average at best. Starter by default.

4. Rodgers: This pick couldve landed the Pack Terrell Owens. So you think Andy Reid would rather trade Owens to a divison rival than a non-NFC East team? Thompson was hibernating in a cave at the time the Eagles were shopping Owens around.

4. Blackmon: Injury-prone.

5. Martin: Who?

6. Moll: Injury-prone.

6. Jolly: shows some flashes, but is injury-prone.

6. Culver: Who?

7. Tollefson: Who?

2007:

1. Herrell: This guy spent so much time on the inactive list as a rookie, he made Jameel Reynolds look good. Terrible pick. Further proof of Thompson's incompetence.

2. Jackson: Average. Started by default.

3. Jones: Faded after strong start.

3. Rouse: Made the team by default; started a couple of games by default.

4. Barbre: If this guy is as good as thompson says he is, how come he wasnt playing when Colledge, Spitz, Coston were struggling? You have to be an idiot not to see the truth: Thompson is using Barbre's false "protental" to shed light away from the biggest fvck up in NFL history; His failure to trade for RANDY FVCKING MOSS with this pick!!!!!!!!!!!

5. Clowney: Who?

6. Hall: Nothing special. Starter by default.

6. Cosby: Thompson's second best pick out of his zillion picks is a kicker!!!

6. Bishop: Who?

7. Wynn: Injury-prone. Started by default.

7. Harris: Who?

Bottom line: No pro bowl picks. A bunch of injury-prone players. A bunch of average players starting by default. 4-12. 8-8. Sherman never never never never went 4-12 or 8-8 as GM. Randy Moss is not wearing a Packer uniform. 1 good player drafted (Jennings); a zillions misses and busts. Add them all up and Favre is forced to retire....early. Incompetent, thy name is Ted Thompson!!!

[Tarlam!]

Tank, now do the exercise with Sherman's drafts so we can truly compare....

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Tank, now do the exercise with Sherman's drafts so we can truly compare....

Sherman had 3 drafts. Drafted 2 pro bowl players; traded for another one. Never went 4-12 or 8-8 as GM. Never missed the playoffs.

Mike Sherman was a better gm than thompson is and will ever be.

[Lurker64]

Of the 765 players drafted by all teams in the 2005 through 2007 draft, 22 of them have been pro bowlers, which is 2.8%. Of all 32 NFL teams, only 16 of them have managed to draft a single pro bowler in those three drafts.

Moreover, "Pro-Bowl Player" is an absolutely worthless metric since it's a glorified popularity contest that is heavily weighted towards teams that play in big markets. Did Nick Folk greatly outplay Mason Crosby last year? Not really. Folk's FG percentage was slightly better, but Crosby made more kicks from 50+ and made more total kicks. In addition, Crosby's kickoffs were better despite playing in more outdoor and bad weather games. Was the balloting even close between the two? No, because Folk plays in Dallas and thus has an advantage in popularity contests like Pro-Bowl ballotting. Players in Green Bay have an inherent disadvantage in Pro Bowl Balloting because of the size of the market and the obscurity of the team (except for Favre.) How many years did William Henderson play at a Pro Bowl level, but didn't get voted in?

Also, if we want to be completely fair. Sherman drafted two Pro Bowl players, Walker and Kampman. Kampman was drafted in 2002 and first made the Pro Bowl in his fourth year in the league, none of Thompson's players have had four years in the league yet, some may yet be pro bowl players in their fourth year. Javon Walker made the Pro Bowl in 2004 after being drafted in 2002, but in retrospect considering what we gave up to get him (A first and a second for a first and a fifth) his total contribution to the Green Bay Packers and his current value in the league, that was a bad pick. Javon Walker's only good year was his Pro Bowl year, he was not a good player before or after so it's highly questionable to trot him out as some proof of drafting acumen.

Players are significantly more likely to make the pro bowl if they are drafted in the higher rounds and are in the league longer. Of the first day players from Thompson's first draft, only Nick Collins even had an opportunity to make the pro bowl. Rodgers would not as he was sitting behind Favre, though he is our current starting QB and may yet be a very good player (even a pro bowler), and Terrence Murphy was promising but his career was ended by a freak injury. By the time we had a pick on the 2nd day of 2005, there were only two Pro Bowl players left in the draft and one was cut by the team who drafted him (Derek Anderson). I agree that Nick Collins is merely average, however. Perhaps it will take four years for him to really come on, however, similar to Kampman (who was widely touted as "merely average" until he had his breakout season in 2006.)

[Tarlam!]

Tank, now do the exercise with Sherman's drafts so we can truly compare....

Sherman had 3 drafts. Drafted 2 pro bowl players; traded for another one. Never went 4-12 or 8-8 as GM. Never missed the playoffs.

Mike Sherman was a better gm than thompson is and will ever be.

Be fair, Tank, make the list and then we can compare how many busts Shermie picked and how many TT picked.

While you're at it, don't forget to mention how many picks both started each draft with and how many players they came away with.

What's Shermie doing these days, anyway Tank?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Popularity? Are you sure your not talking about the NBA All-Stars where Yao Ming is a starter every year because he has a whole nation voting for him? Fans only have a say in 1/3 of Pro Bowl votes!

There’s no telling how good Walker would be with the Packer had he remained with the team, but this much is clear: he was an excellent player for the Packer prior Thompson’s arrival.

Murphy’s injury is not a “freak” incident. He had a medical condition that the Thompson administration failed to detect. In other words, Murphy should not have been playing football in the 1st place. This guy played less games for the Packers than Robert Ferguson!

Bottom line is, Thompson had far better draft positions than Sherman, yet Sherman still out drafted him.

[mission]

Bottom line is, Thompson had far better draft positions than Sherman, yet Sherman still out drafted him.

why did thompson have better draft position than sherman.................. ?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

why did thompson have better draft position than sherman.................. ?

You don't know? (Read the next post for anwser)

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The Polar bear gave birth 4-12 and 8-8.

[Lurker64]

There’s no telling how good Walker would be with the Packer had he remained with the team, but this much is clear: he was an excellent player for the Packer prior Thompson’s arrival.

No he wasn't. Walker had one good season in his entire career. He was wretched before that season and he's been wretched since that season. If he hadn't been traded, he would have been cut a long time ago. His first year in the league he caught 23 passes for 319 yards. In his second year he had approximately the same production that Jennings and Jones had in their rookie seasons, then he had his one good season, then he shredded his knee and became no use to anybody.

Walker is not a good player and he was, in retrospect, a wasted pick even though he made a pro bowl once. Mark my words, he will not be back.

[packrat]

I know it is the off season, but this is a very boring way to stir the pot. The initial post is obviously a lame attempt at a joke. Anyone who can't see the difference in the direction the Pack is headed under Thompson compared to Sherman should be a Lion's fan. Sherman had the over the hill gang that was getting worse fast and couldn't win a playoff game. Thompson has a very young team that had the best season in years and is only going to get better. Perhaps the biggest improvement of Thompson over Sherman is in the coaches they chose. At least Thompson knows when to get rid of mistakes rather than letting his ego hang on to losers just because he was the one who picked them.

[cpk1994]

I know it is the off season, but this is a very boring way to stir the pot. The initial post is obviously a lame attempt at a joke. Anyone who can't see the difference in the direction the Pack is headed under Thompson compared to Sherman should be a Lion's fan. Sherman had the over the hill gang that was getting worse fast and couldn't win a playoff game. Thompson has a very young team that had the best season in years and is only going to get better. Perhaps the biggest improvement of Thompson over Sherman is in the coaches they chose. At least Thompson knows when to get rid of mistakes rather than letting his ego hang on to losers just because he was the one who picked them.

Then explain Kurt Schottenhiemer, and why he still has a job.

[Sef0r]

I am confused. I was reading the post and thought "hahaha, he is making a funny". Then I get to the replies and it is actually genuine hate he has torwards TT. Wow, just wow.

[MJZiggy]

Never missed the playoffs.

Never made the NFC Championship game either.

[Tarlam!]

Perhaps the biggest improvement of Thompson over Sherman is in the coaches they chose.

Then explain Kurt Schottenhiemer, and why he still has a job.

Charles Woodson and Al Harris(16/18 top games aint too bad).

Rouse and Bigby.

I'll give you Collins and the backups.