Favre td to int ratio

[red]

ok, so i posted this on another site awhile ago and got 0 responses for it, which sucked, because it took a bit of time to do

a lot of folks out there are making a big deal about the fact that Brett is about to break the record for most career int's, and use this to somehow discredit him. they say he's been too wild and out of control over his career. i thought people should look at the other numbers and compare this with the exact opposite stat td's thrown. so i came up with a little ratio (td's/int's) and compared bretts numbers to the "greats". the numbers even surprised me

all super bowl winning qb's

name td/ints tds per int

Bart Starr 152/138 1.10
Joe Namath 173/220 .79
Len Dawson 239/183 1.31
Johnny Unitas 290/253 1.15
Roger Staubach 153/109 1.4
Bob Griese 192/172 1.12
Terry Bradshaw 212/210 1.01
Ken Stabler 194/222 .87
Jim Plunkett 164/198 .83
Joe Montana 273/139 1.96
Joe Theismann 160/138 1.16
Jim McMahon 100/90 1.11
Phil Simms 199/157 1.27
Doug Williams 100/93 1.08
Mark Rypien 115/88 1.31
Troy Aikman 165/141 1.09
Steve Young 232/107 2.17
Brett Favre 396/255 1.55
John Elway 300/226 1.33
Kurt Warner 119 /78 1.53
Trent Dilfer 106/117 .91
Tom Brady 123 /66 1.86
Brad Johnson 155/102 1.52
Ben Roethlisberger 34/20 1.70

so by my math favre has thrown 1.55 td's for every int for his career. thats 5th best if you look at all the super bowl winning qb's. only behind some guys named montana, young, brady, and roethlisberger. and with time, and without top notch teams, brady and big bens ratio could drop

then i looked at the top 20 qb's of all time based on attempts

D Marino..........8358.....420/252.....1.66
B Favre............7612.....396/255.....1.55
J Elway.............7250.....300/226.....1.33
W Moon ...........6823.....291/233.....1.25
D Bledsoe ........6548.....244/198.....1.23
V Testaverde.....6526.....269/261.....1.03
F Tarkenton.......6467.....342/266.....1.29
D Fouts ............5604.....254/242.....1.05
J Montana .........5391.....273/139.....1.96
D Krieg ............5311.....261/199.....1.31
B Esiason ..........5205.....247/184.....1.34
J Unitas..............5186.....290/253.....1.15
K Collins ............5082.....173/166.....1.04
J Hart ................5076.....209/247.....0.85
S Deberg ............5024......196/204.....0.96
J Everett .............4923.....203/175.....1.16
J Kelly ................4779.....237/175.....1.35
T Aikman ..........4715.....165/141.....1.17
J Hadl ..............4687.....244/268.....0.91
P Simms ............4647.....199/157.....1.27

brett doesn't do too bad with these guys either. 3rd (td/int ratio), only behind that montana guy again and that marino fella

maybe bretts not as bad and wild as some people think he is

[Bretsky]

These are great stats Red, and goes to show the Favre negativists that he is not only a great QB, but he stacks up favorably against the best even when taking into account the interceptions.

And then when you take into account how Brett Favre carried some inferior talent on some offensive teams (as Evidenced by Ron Wolf's greatest regret being not surrounding Favre with enough talent) in his prime, and his success it accelerates his greatness.

But some of the Favre haters will choose to ingnore the facts over his career and instead dwell on a few playoff games and choose them to define his career.

In reality, Green Bay was at times fortunate to get that far, and it often did primarily due to the successful gunslinging menatality of Brett Favre.

I look forward to seeing the Anti Favre guys respond to this.

But truth be told, Red, part of the reason that this may not get that many responses is there are not many people in this site who undervalue the past greatness of Brett Favre.


Thanks for sharing the hard work,
B

[GrnBay007]

Great stats Red!

Looks like the "uncoachable" Brett Favre is doing pretty well afterall.

[red]

thanks guys, my first 2 responses for these stats, and it only took a month

[Travbrew]

Great job Red, thanks. I'm sure many will overlook these stats. Some poeople won't change their opinions, even after they're shown cold hard facts. I should print it out in a reduced size and laminate it. Keep it in my pocket to shove in someone's face the next time they try to talk shit about BF and his ints.

[woodbuck27]

Great job red and ' of course ' Brett Favre has the stat's to support his TRUE GREATNESS.

Your assignment now . . . .

is to contact Jason Wilde via E-mail if possible @
jwilde@madison.com AND pass this little tid bit of REAL information along to him, so maybe he'll cool his jets a wee bit / lighten up on the Favre attacks!

[Bretsky]

Great job red and ' of course ' Brett Favre has the stat's to support his TRUE GREATNESS.

Your assignment now . . . .

is to contact Jason Wilde via E-mail if possible @
jwilde@madison.com AND pass this little tid bit of REAL information along to him, so maybe he'll cool his jets a wee bit / lighten up on the Favre attacks!

That would be interesting, and Red you should be given the enjoyable job of getting the info to this clown.

[GBRulz]

Awesome stats, Red...thanks for posting that!!

Oh bulldog...where are you??

[red]

to be honest, i have never read anything the guy has written, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal to me to send this to him

however, you guys are more then welcome to use the numbers, and send them to the "clown". it sounds like you guys would get more of a kick out of shutting him up then i would

[chain_gang]

Looks good Red, he ranks around the top 5 in almost every important category, including this one. For the amount of passes he's had to attempt, that's actually pretty incredible.

Still can't believe Young had a 2 to 1 TD to Int ratio, holy crap. I knew the guy was good, but damn. Guess if he would've played longer it would have dropped some, but more than likely he'd be no. 1 on the list. I never really cared for the guy but he was great.

[pbmax]

Very nice work Red, thank you. One thing, besides Favre, caught my eye and that was Aikman's relatively low number. Now I am no Aikman apologist, I did not think he was as good as he was made out to be.

However, I don't remember him as an int machine or drive killer either.

I wonder how the running game affects these numbers. Aikman obviously lost a number of TD opportunities to Emmit and his O line. The West Coast QBs were passing in the red zone even when they had solid running games.

[Bretsky]

to be honest, i have never read anything the guy has written, so it wouldn't be that big of a deal to me to send this to him

however, you guys are more then welcome to use the numbers, and send them to the "clown". it sounds like you guys would get more of a kick out of shutting him up then i would

Red,

You are not missing any quality by avoiding this guy's articles


B

[son of a vic]

Why is anyone that points out, that Favre needs to play better this season than last, considered a Favre "basher." I have always said that Brett is a great Q.B., but he can't have a repeat performance of last season, no matter the circumstances. Don't paint everyone that thinks Favre has to play better, as a hater. Some of us want him to do well, but we're not going to make excuses for him when he doesn't.

[GBRulz]

Why is anyone that points out, that Favre needs to play better this season than last, considered a Favre "basher." I have always said that Brett is a great Q.B., but he can't have a repeat performance of last season, no matter the circumstances. Don't paint everyone that thinks Favre has to play better, as a hater. Some of us want him to do well, but we're not going to make excuses for him when he doesn't.

No doubt he made some bone headed plays last year. I don't think there is one person in here that doesn't agree with that. but the difference is some people look at the whole picture and don't just constantly dwell on the negative portions of his career. Which was Red's point in posting that.

[son of a vic]

Anyone that looks at his entire body of work, and is not impressed, is football illiterate, and should be forced to watch every game of the World Cup.