RB Ryan Grant optimistic about new contract

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Re: RG

Maybe I missed it, but when did Grant use the Javon Walker argument about risk of injury as his reason for wanting a better contract? He's not practicing now when he is not signed, but normally the team will not allow them to anyway, because of the injury risk.

I don't recall Grant being quoted as saying he wants a bigger contract because of the risk of injury, just that he believes he has earned a better offer than what he has been given.

Facts are not always your friend Sir Patler.

He may not say it but I am willing to bet he is thinking it. I went overboard with the walker comparison but usually when you fear bad things is when they happen in my experience.

I highly doubt he is even aware of Jwalk as he wasn't on the pack when walker was here.

As for bad things happen when you think of them...what a bunch of superstition. As if only thinking good things leads to good things.

I guess that isn't working out for grant..you don't think he was thinking positive last year when he accumulated those yards..and that it would lead to a lucrative offer?

[Gunakor]

Re: RG

Maybe I missed it, but when did Grant use the Javon Walker argument about risk of injury as his reason for wanting a better contract? He's not practicing now when he is not signed, but normally the team will not allow them to anyway, because of the injury risk.

I don't recall Grant being quoted as saying he wants a bigger contract because of the risk of injury, just that he believes he has earned a better offer than what he has been given.

Facts are not always your friend Sir Patler.

He may not say it but I am willing to bet he is thinking it. I went overboard with the walker comparison but usually when you fear bad things is when they happen in my experience.

I highly doubt he is even aware of Jwalk as he wasn't on the pack when walker was here.

As for bad things happen when you think of them...what a bunch of superstition. As if only thinking good things leads to good things.

I guess that isn't working out for grant..you don't think he was thinking positive last year when he accumulated those yards..and that it would lead to a lucrative offer?

Lucrative deals are not warranted after 9 productive games. He has to show he can last a full season before a lucrative deal is warranted. What if he's just another guy, who happened to get lucky for half a season? Geez man, you make it sound so certain he's going to be our starter for the near future. What if he does turn out to be the next Eric Rhett?

I think Grant has more leverage than some of you are willing to acknowledge. Yes his performance was for less than a year, but it was consistent enough against enough different teams, it was very, very good, not just adequate and it was done without a stellar line; which indicate it was not a fluke. TT and MM know they need Grant this year. He made a big difference last year.

I am of the belief that Brett Favre aided in Ryan Grant's production tremendously just by being #4 under center. We'll see whether it was a fluke or not this year. Defenses won't be gameplanning the same way against us. Not until AR proves himself anyway. RG will probably be the main focus of alot of DC's when coming up with gameplans against us, something that he didn't have to deal with even once last year. The situation is not the same, so no, we don't know whether last year was a fluke or not.

[MJZiggy]

Brett Favre being under center didn't do much for Brandon Jackson...

[RashanGary]

I think Grant has more leverage than some of you are willing to acknowledge. Yes his performance was for less than a year, but it was consistent enough against enough different teams, it was very, very good, not just adequate and it was done without a stellar line; which indicate it was not a fluke. TT and MM know they need Grant this year. He made a big difference last year.

3 years before his contract is up? That is no leverage if you ask me. Bubba was the transition player. He had other teams that could have bid for his services with the Packers getting right ot first refusal. I don't know where you went to school, but where I attended supply and demand had a little something to do with the price of goods When you have 32 teams able to bid with maybe 5 of them wanting the item, that would represent much higher demand than only one person able to bid. There are no other shoppers. Nobody to drive up the price. Grants only option is to not play and never make it to UFA and never make another dollar in the NFL, let alone a million. Grant is a good player. I really like him, but if he wants to play hard ball, let him sit. The Packers will do just fine.

[Gunakor]

Brett Favre being under center didn't do much for Brandon Jackson...

That's because Brandon Jackson would routinely run up his linemen's asses and then dance around in the backfield. Had more to do with a poor runner than a good run defense. Jackson didn't seem to "get it" until late in the season, and when he did "get it" he was somewhat productive when given opportunities.

[RashanGary]

Rock Gullickson describes Brandon Jackson as a different person in regard to his strength and conditioning - whatever that's worth.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Rock Gullickson describes Brandon Jackson as a different person in regard to his strength and conditioning - whatever that's worth.

Won't help his vision.

Were you in favor of the Crew signing Ryan Braun to a long-term deal?

[MadtownPacker]

Re: RG

I highly doubt he is even aware of Jwalk as he wasn't on the pack when walker was here.

As for bad things happen when you think of them...what a bunch of superstition. As if only thinking good things leads to good things.

I guess that isn't working out for grant..you don't think he was thinking positive last year when he accumulated those yards..and that it would lead to a lucrative offer?

Listen you all-knowing superbrain circus freak, I already said the my jwalk comment was excessive but what the hell does Grant being on the team the same time as walker have anything to do with it??

You know what I actually do think it helps to think good things you negative bastard. If you dont that is your thing not mine. But for someone who claims to be so opened minded you sure aint acting like it.

I do think Grant was thinking positive last year and as you said he had all those yards. He comes in, does his thing and I am 100% positive Thompson hooks him up sometime halfway through the season.

[motife]

Q: Terry Chaney of Royal Oak, Mi - Assuming that Ryan Grant hasn't signed his contract and won't be participating in the ota's, how much of a risk is he taking from the perspective of potentially loosing his starters status.

A: Greg Bedard - If I were the Packers, I wouldn't give Grant anything. If he wants to sit out and get further and further from unrestricted free agency, then he should go do that. I'd go into the season with Jackson, Wynn and Morency and forget about Ryan Grant. The Packers will likely give him a new contract, but not until he actually makes it out of training camp healthy. No team would give a six-game wonder a new contract before training camp. He should sign his tender and go do his job. The Packers have shown time after time that they will do what's right. But not at the end of a rifle.

Is it just me, or does Grant look exceedingly uncomfortable in this photo from the OTA last week? :

Q: Packer Jim of Chicago - Greg, I think Ryan Grant has shown that he can be an excellent #1 RB for Green Bay. Do you agree? What is the situation with his contract? Thanks for the chats. '08 promises to be a very interesting year. Jim.

A: Greg Bedard - I think Grant's a No. 1, but you need a 1A and 1B in this league behind a good offensive line. His contract is still up in the air. I don't agree with what him and his agent are doing. Asking for a new contract off of six games when the Packers basically rescued you off the scrap heap is idiotic if you ask me.

[Gunakor]

Re: RG

I do think Grant was thinking positive last year and as you said he had all those yards. He comes in, does his thing and I am 100% positive Thompson hooks him up sometime halfway through the season.

The way RG's camp talks about this deal, Thompson would have to hook him up before the season starts if they want him in uniform this year. He's made it quite clear he won't sign the tender Thompson has offered him.

Whatever. If the guy is willing to risk millions on a gamble that may or may not pay off, fine. He should remember, though, that TT does not have to pay him anything more than what he's already offered. And if he doesn't reach an agreement, he'll never make free agency, and his career is over. Right now Thompson holds all the chips. The best thing it seems is for him to sign the tender and then continue negotiations as the season progresses. Maybe then TT would indeed hook him up midway through the season. But not if he continues to be a hard ass right now and doesn't find his way onto the field before then.

[Rastak]

Re: RG

I do think Grant was thinking positive last year and as you said he had all those yards. He comes in, does his thing and I am 100% positive Thompson hooks him up sometime halfway through the season.

The way RG's camp talks about this deal, Thompson would have to hook him up before the season starts if they want him in uniform this year. He's made it quite clear he won't sign the tender Thompson has offered him.

Whatever. If the guy is willing to risk millions on a gamble that may or may not pay off, fine. He should remember, though, that TT does not have to pay him anything more than what he's already offered. And if he doesn't reach an agreement, he'll never make free agency, and his career is over. Right now Thompson holds all the chips. The best thing it seems is for him to sign the tender and then continue negotiations as the season progresses. Maybe then TT would indeed hook him up midway through the season. But not if he continues to be a hard ass right now and doesn't find his way onto the field before then.

I would agree with other posts that he has very little leverage. If he thinks he is being dealt with unfairly then he has no choice but to work off the last years of his contract and instruct his agent to ignore all calls from Green Bay period.

More likely, he works something out given the number of years he has left.

[RashanGary]

If he worked off the last three years and left at age 29, I would be OK with that - getting him for pennies and all. I don't want it to get to that because he'd stand a bigger chance of getting injured and never earning a nice deal than he wold getting it, but one more year (or half a year at least) before the nice deal seems about right.

[RashanGary]

Won't help his vision.

Were you in favor of the Crew signing Ryan Braun to a long-term deal?

Yeah, I think that was a good move. It's acctually really cheap for what he brings. Corey Hart should be the next position player IMO and Sheets right now (before FA) if possible. Baseball is kind of like football (maybe worse) in that if you sign guys early it makes things a little more affordable.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Is it just me, or does Grant look exceedingly uncomfortable in this photo from the OTA last week?

I think it's just you. Camera caught him with a weird expression. I wouldn't read too much into it.

[MadScientist]

Re: RG

I would agree with other posts that he has very little leverage. If he thinks he is being dealt with unfairly then he has no choice but to work off the last years of his contract and instruct his agent to ignore all calls from Green Bay period.

More likely, he works something out given the number of years he has left.

He has worked off all the years of his contract. The Packers have to give him a new contract in order for him to play. It's just a question of how much. Curiously this is like the old pre-FA days where the players had no leverage, but were not under long term contracts. Players could always reject what was offered to try to get more, but they were stuck if they didn't get what they wanted.

It's hard to blame the featured back for wanting to be offered something more than roster filler money.