JAVON WALKER TO DENVER- IT'S PERSONAL

[HarveyWallbangers]

Now how many of you clamoring to LOCK HIM UP are laughing at Denver for paying walker big money. And don't say the situation is different, Walker started out "doing it the right way" too. He said all the right things right up until after he got injured.

and don't say walker was under contract, he had the same option grant has, to sit at home.

Not comparable, IMHO. Walker was looking to get paid ELITE money. Grant just wants a decent long-term deal. He isn't looking to break the bank.

[bobblehead]

Now how many of you clamoring to LOCK HIM UP are laughing at Denver for paying walker big money. And don't say the situation is different, Walker started out "doing it the right way" too. He said all the right things right up until after he got injured.

and don't say walker was under contract, he had the same option grant has, to sit at home.

Not comparable, IMHO. Walker was looking to get paid ELITE money. Grant just wants a decent long-term deal. He isn't looking to break the bank.

If you are right then I agree, not the same, but the truth is we don't know for sure what grant wants. I hope you are right and he is being reasonable in his demands. But also, Walker had done a lot more over his time than grant has.

[MadtownPacker]

No surprise here. jtalk will never amount to shit.

I cant believe he is one of the top 5 paid WRs in the NFL. Saw it mentioned when TO got his new contract.

[Scott Campbell]

Hmmmm......

Jevon Walker:

2004 Green Bay Packers 16 12 89 1,382 15.5 79T 12 -- -- -- -- -- 2 2
2003 Green Bay Packers 16 3 41 716 17.5 66T 9 2 1 0.5 1 0 1 1
2002 Green Bay Packers 15 2 23 319 13.9 30 1 1 11 11.0 11 0 1 1
TOTAL 252 3,815 15.1 83 30 14 132 9.4 72 1 4 4

Ryan Grant:

2007 188 956 5.1 66 8 30 145 4.8 21 0 1 1
Career 188 956 5.1 66 8 30 145 4.8 21 0 1 1
Postseason - 2007 40 230 5.8 43 3 3 3 1.0 11 0 2 2


Now how many of you clamoring to LOCK HIM UP are laughing at Denver for paying walker big money. And don't say the situation is different, Walker started out "doing it the right way" too. He said all the right things right up until after he got injured.

and don't say walker was under contract, he had the same option grant has, to sit at home.

Unless Grant starts acting like a complete ass and whining about earning but not receiving a Purple Heart, I don't see any similarity.

[Lurker64]

Obviously we have a chance to be a Superbowl team. Obviously the Raiders have a chance to win four games.

[Kiwon]

Javon has clearly been persecuted by both the Green Bay Packers and Denver Broncos - through no fault of his own. Team's need to stop treating Javon so unfairly.

J Walk is the Jeremiah Wright of the NFL......misunderstood and taken out of context. He's never responsible for anything attributed to him.

[Tarlam!]

I turned off of J-Walk in the JSO days. When he compared his situation to the situation the fine men and woman in uniform face in war, he lost me.

I remember HH defending him vehemently at that time, also.

When I think of what could have been had he been anything like Jennings (in terms of character).

Anyways, he's finally found a team that gets "him". I wonder if he will ever get the "team".

[vince]

Hmmmm......

Jevon Walker:

2004 Green Bay Packers 16 12 89 1,382 15.5 79T 12 -- -- -- -- -- 2 2
2003 Green Bay Packers 16 3 41 716 17.5 66T 9 2 1 0.5 1 0 1 1
2002 Green Bay Packers 15 2 23 319 13.9 30 1 1 11 11.0 11 0 1 1
TOTAL 252 3,815 15.1 83 30 14 132 9.4 72 1 4 4

Ryan Grant:

2007 188 956 5.1 66 8 30 145 4.8 21 0 1 1
Career 188 956 5.1 66 8 30 145 4.8 21 0 1 1
Postseason - 2007 40 230 5.8 43 3 3 3 1.0 11 0 2 2


Now how many of you clamoring to LOCK HIM UP are laughing at Denver for paying walker big money. And don't say the situation is different, Walker started out "doing it the right way" too. He said all the right things right up until after he got injured.

and don't say walker was under contract, he had the same option grant has, to sit at home.

The situation is different. Absolutely no comparison whatsoever here. Well the only reason to compare them is to demonstrate their differences.

Attitude: Replace Jenning's name with Grant in JH's post above. Walker sat out of training camp while under contract the year prior to getting injured as well. Had he started out "doing it the right way," things very well could have been different between he and the Packers.

Contract: Walker negotiated his original six-year, multi-million dollar deal, which he explicitly negotiated into the deal that the last year was voidable by him. After that fact, he decided that he should opt out of it two years prior to that.

Grant had his contract imposed upon him by the league and players union long before he came to the table.

Both had/have the option to "sit at home." That's where the similarities end.

The differences are:
One was offered and has agreed to a multi-million dollar contract contract one hasn't.
One is handling things "the right way" and one didn't.
One acted like he thougt he was God's gift to football and one isn't.
One was a consummate team player and one wasn't.
One is a perfect fit for a new offense and one wasn't.
One burned bridges in the media and one didn't.
One acts and plays with intelligence and one didn't.
One has been described by his coach as an extremely hard worker, a highly intelligent football player and one of the most consistent performers in practice and in games that he's ever seen and one wasn't.

I also think it's inaccurate to suggest that many of those who disagreed with Walker's approach (and supported the decision to unleash him rather than give in to his ridiculous tactics and selfish demands) didn't wish he had the intelligence and attitude that Grant and others have shown. I for one wished that he had back then. But he didn't.

[RashanGary]

Javon Walker was an extremely hard worker. In a time when many Packers were showing up out of shape under the previous coach, Walker always showed up in premium condition ready to play. The play he was injured was a very impressive play. He just ran away from that DB like he was an 8th grader playing with 5th graders. I didn't watch all of his games, but he seems to have lost his dominate edge after that knee surgery and now he had yet another.

You can say a lot of things about Javon Walker. Maybe the most important in this case is what a complete idiot he is. The guy just had no clue. The blank stare should have given it away from the start, but there really is very little going on in that head. I've never heard him make an intelligent comment in all off the comments he's made while with GB and outside of GB.

Hard worker though. You can't take that away from the idiot.

[cpk1994]

Hmmmm......

Jevon Walker:

2004 Green Bay Packers 16 12 89 1,382 15.5 79T 12 -- -- -- -- -- 2 2
2003 Green Bay Packers 16 3 41 716 17.5 66T 9 2 1 0.5 1 0 1 1
2002 Green Bay Packers 15 2 23 319 13.9 30 1 1 11 11.0 11 0 1 1
TOTAL 252 3,815 15.1 83 30 14 132 9.4 72 1 4 4

Ryan Grant:

2007 188 956 5.1 66 8 30 145 4.8 21 0 1 1
Career 188 956 5.1 66 8 30 145 4.8 21 0 1 1
Postseason - 2007 40 230 5.8 43 3 3 3 1.0 11 0 2 2


Now how many of you clamoring to LOCK HIM UP are laughing at Denver for paying walker big money. And don't say the situation is different, Walker started out "doing it the right way" too. He said all the right things right up until after he got injured.

and don't say walker was under contract, he had the same option grant has, to sit at home.

Wrong. Walker WAS under contract. In fact he had two years left when he started bitching and threating a holdout. And that was before the injury. Grant is not under contract. Two totally different situations.

[Patler]

Now how many of you clamoring to LOCK HIM UP are laughing at Denver for paying walker big money. And don't say the situation is different, Walker started out "doing it the right way" too. He said all the right things right up until after he got injured.

and don't say walker was under contract, he had the same option grant has, to sit at home.

Walker started "doing things wrong" in the off season BEFORE he was injured. He threatened to hold out, stayed away from off season things etc. He did that at a time when the Packers had major cap problems. They were trying to deal with Sharper, Rivera and Wahle, they had other contracts due, and still more before Walkers in two years. However, Walker threatened a hold out while still under contract, in essence trying to "get his" before other deserving teammates that were ahead of him in contract due dates, at a time when the Packers did not have a lot of money to spread around. Compare that to the low profile Grant has taken, his participation and attendance at off season things, etc.

There is a fundamental difference in situations between a player under contract threatening to hold, and another player not under contract negotiating to get a contract better than what was offered initially by the team, especially when one was making millions on his contract and the other has been paid and is being offered the same as the now-departed Joe Toledo.

If you must compare Grant to sometime in Walker's career, the more accurate comparison would be when Walker was drafted. Walker was not under contract, and so long s the team made a minimum qualifying offer to him, he had two options, sign the contract or sit at home. Grant is simply trying to do what drafted rookies do, negotiate something better than a minimum qualifying offer from the team.

[sharpe1027]

Walker was making eight figures when he held out. He also got a decent signing bonus. Grant is playing for the league minimum with virtually no signing bonus.

[Tarlam!]

Compare that to the low profile Grant has taken, his participation and attendance at off season things, etc.

Not to mention, the Packers today have trillions to spend.

[MadtownPacker]

Grant hasn't held out yet so there is no way he can be compared to the jamoron walker. I can sympathize with Grant to a point. With walker I said "fuck him" almost immediately. My only concern with Grant is that he will get injured from lack of offseason prep.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Walker was making eight figures when he held out. He also got a decent signing bonus. Grant is playing for the league minimum with virtually no signing bonus.

To be fair: Walker's rookie deal was 6y/$9.5M, so he wasn't quite making the type of money you are suggesting. I know it was just short of 8 figures, but it was only a little over $1.5M/year. I don't think it was unreasonable for him to seek a better deal at the time, but he went about it in a bad way. The Packers were cap-strapped and he made the negotiations contentious.