JAVON FOUND UNCONSCIOUS IN VEGAS!!!

[packers11]

some of the posters here surprise me with the defense you are trying to give to Walker...

He did it once, someone died...
He did it twice, he got the shit kicked out of him...
He did it three times... well you know were its going...

If that dip-shit hasn't learned that you need to be protected by some type of security in big cities (when your a NFL PLAYER) then i'm sorry to say but he hasn't had the worse come for him yet...

did he deserve it ... no...
did he have it comming? yes...

[packers11]

The Associated Press reports that Javon Walker had a large amount of cash and jewelry taken from him in a robbery before he was found lying unconscious on a Las Vegas street Monday.

[packers11]

espn.com

There are some tragic ironies to the Javon Walker robbery story.

Walker went to Las Vegas in the days after Darrent Williams was killed in Denver on Jan. 1, 2007. Williams died in Walker's arms in a rented limousine after the two attended a New Year's Eve party in downtown Denver. Walker received a lot of criticism for going to Las Vegas and going to nightclubs instead of joining the rest of the organization in Fort Worth, Texas, at Williams' funeral.

Walker said in an HBO interview last summer that he fled Denver for Las Vegas because he was scared for his life.

In that same interview, Walker said a melee started before Williams was shot because Denver receiver Brandon Marshall and his cousin were spraying champagne at the Denver nightclubs and that it agitated gang members in attendance.

According to a report in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Walker -- who signed with Oakland after being cut by Denver this offseason -- was spraying champagne at two Las Vegas nightclubs last weekend, including shortly before he was found unconscious.

[FavreChild]

Oh, I didn't realize the penalty for spraying champagne - at most, an offense of freaking etiquette, mind you - is being shit kicked or shot to death.

Give me an effing break.

So the next time some a-hole spills beer on me at Lambeau, I'll keep that in mind.

Some of you are still jumping to conclusions and making ridiculous judgments on the situation. Y'all believe what you want to believe, I guess.

[packers11]

He did it once, someone died...
He did it twice, he got the shit kicked out of him...
He did it three times... well you know were its going...

Oh, I didn't realize the penalty for spraying champagne - at most, an offense of freaking etiquette, mind you - is being shit kicked or shot to death.

Give me an effing break.

So the next time some a-hole spills beer on me at Lambeau, I'll keep that in mind.

Some of you are still jumping to conclusions and making ridiculous judgments on the situation. Y'all believe what you want to believe, I guess.

haha not at all.. I wouldn't give a shit about people spraying champagne on me... BUT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WERE PEOPLE KILL OVER NOTHING...

They had a whole hour series on NFL NETWORK a couple months ago telling ALL PLAYERS to stay with security when they go to clubs/night events because of the target on their back...

Favrechild... If YOU were rich and had your best friend die on you during one of the "fun events" you were doing... Don't you think you would smarten up just a tiny bit and keep someone by your side knowing people might still have it out for you???

If your answer is no... Then common sense is at an all time low in America...

[FavreChild]

I hear what you're saying, but common sense and logic go out the window in a lot of situations.

Many people, if not most, do not deal with tragedy rationally. If I had enough money and time to spend drowning my sorrows and escaping from my problems, especially when I was younger, I probably would.

Does Javon have a lot to learn about life? Hell yeah. (So do most of us.) Still, the fact remains, he didn't do anything "wrong." Could he have made different - and possibly better - choices? Yes. We all could admit to that about ourselves. But he did nothing illegal or harmful. All the rush to judge him seems pretty unreasonable.

[Gunakor]

I'm not going to go out and say that he deserved what he got, but if you don't want to be robbed then don't show anybody your money. Don't spray the crowd with Dom. Don't draw attention to yourself. Don't go wandering off by yourself into suspicious areas. Did he deserve to get robbed and beaten, no, but he sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent such an attack. Yes, I suppose the victim DOES share some responsibility in this case, as he willingly invited this to occur through his actions prior to this happening. This doesn't seem like just a random act of violence. He made himself a target. Thus I don't feel sorry for him.

[CaptainKickass]

Orbital Fracture

I'm no medical terminology major - so I googled it:

Definition of Orbital fracture

from www.medterms.com

"Orbital fracture: A break in one of the bones that make up the orbit. Since the orbit is the seat of the globe (the eye), an orbital fracture can be a serious, sight-threatening break. (Goggles are recommended for racquetball and handball players because of significant risk of orbital fracture from the impact of a speeding ball.)

The orbit is complexly constituted. It is made up of parts of six bones: the frontal, ethmoidal, lacrimal, and sphenoid bones and the maxilla and zygoma. A break in the orbit portion of one or more of these six bones is an orbital fracture."




In case any of you were lazier than I.

[cpk1994]

I'm not going to go out and say that he deserved what he got, but if you don't want to be robbed then don't show anybody your money. Don't spray the crowd with Dom. Don't draw attention to yourself. Don't go wandering off by yourself into suspicious areas. Did he deserve to get robbed and beaten, no, but he sure as hell didn't do anything to prevent such an attack. Yes, I suppose the victim DOES share some responsibility in this case, as he willingly invited this to occur through his actions prior to this happening. This doesn't seem like just a random act of violence. He made himself a target. Thus I don't feel sorry for him.

I agree. Well said.

[Pugger]

Unfortunately today you can't be to careful. Javon was careless and unwittingly made himself a target. No one "asks" or deserves to be beaten to a pulp. Especially in a city like Vegas one shouldn't draw attention to oneself and flash money around. I hope Walker has learned his lesson. If not he might not be so lucky the next time around!!

[sharpe1027]

some of the posters here surprise me with the defense you are trying to give to Walker...

He did it once, someone died...
He did it twice, he got the shit kicked out of him...
He did it three times... well you know were its going...

If that dip-shit hasn't learned that you need to be protected by some type of security in big cities (when your a NFL PLAYER) then i'm sorry to say but he hasn't had the worse come for him yet...

did he deserve it ... no...
did he have it comming? yes...

I don't think anyone is defending Walker's actions as being smart or right or positive, ect. What most posters "defending" him have said is that he did not deserve to be robbed and hospitalized for spraying champagne.

I think most people actually agree on this issue. He was stupid, but it sucks that things like this happen.

[bobblehead]

Oh, I didn't realize the penalty for spraying champagne - at most, an offense of freaking etiquette, mind you - is being shit kicked or shot to death.

Give me an effing break.

So the next time some a-hole spills beer on me at Lambeau, I'll keep that in mind.

Some of you are still jumping to conclusions and making ridiculous judgments on the situation. Y'all believe what you want to believe, I guess.

If you spill a beer on me by accident and say "oh damn, I'm so sorry" no biggie, i'll wipe it off and go about life. if you intentionally spray a bottle of champagne on me and cop attitude when I tell you knock it off....your probably gonna get hit.

I'm not running around saying he deserved it or anything, but sometimes when people run around complaining cuz we point out the guy is an ass I wonder what is going on in your head. His behavior is very relevant to this whole situation, it would be great if we all lived in a world where none of our actions have consequences, but we don't.

Just like the tatoo thread, what we do will cause us to be judged, fairly or not. one guy has a lot of tats but said he has taken care to keep them under cloth limits....thats called good judgement, if you get a tatoo on your face and get mad cuz someone doing the hiring thinks it speaks volumes about your judgement...look in the mirror.

There may be times in JWalks life where he is being treated unfairly, but a long pattern of stupidity isn't always everyone elses fault and if we rush to judge him a "dumbass" that is more on him at this stage than it is on any of us.

[Lurker64]

This might be the end of JWalks career, a couple of years ago Bill Romanowski broke Marcus Williams's orbital bone in an altercation in practice and Williams never played football again because of blurry vision. "Wearing a football helmet" is one of the worst things to do if you're trying to recover from such an injury.

I wonder how badly he broke it. Walker's eyesight was never particularly good to begin with.

[SkinBasket]

But he did nothing illegal or harmful. All the rush to judge him seems pretty unreasonable.

He's being judged as an idiot, not as a criminal.

If I go into some shit hole in the darkest heart of Detroit, find a bunch of black fellas all dressed in the same colors, strip down to a thong, leather chaps, a necklace with $100,000 of diamonds hanging off it, and a KKK Grand Dragon hood on my head and do a nice pole dance on the bar, I haven't really done anything illegal either. But what the fuck do you thinks going to happen to my white ass?

[Badgerinmaine]

The San Francisco Chronicle is reporting that Javon Walker "had about $3,000 in cash and $100,000 in jewelry stolen, which included a watch, necklace and earrings", according to a Las Vegas police lieutenant:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/17/SPD011AK4A.DTL

The lieutenant also says that the police believe the incident was not random and that the attackers knew who Walker was.

This leaves me several thoughts:
1. That is one hell of a lot of loot to be carrying around at one time. Here in central Maine, you could buy a decent small house with the cash value of the jewelry Walker was wearing. (I can only imagine what our homeless shelters and food banks here--who are seeing record numbers of people seeking help--could do with a tenth of that money). Wearing all that jewelry in public in a place like Las Vegas seems awfully risky to me and fits in with the idea that his flaunting his wealth could have rubbed people the wrong way.
2. There's a pattern of bad judgment on Walker's part.
3. But, putting yourself at risk still does not absolve the attackers of responsibility, nor does it mean Walker deserved to be beaten or robbed. However, maybe the next high-rolling pro athlete will think twice in a similar situation and something good will come from it all in the end.