Arod shuts door on Favre

[woodbuck27]

I thought he did a great job as well.

However, I have a theory that the Packers are/were ready to move on before Favre really was. I've pieced things together from all of the reports after Favre retired and Chris Havel on the radio. From everything I understand, the Packers gave Favre a date and told him he had to have an answer. On that date, Favre said he had to retire because he wasn't ready to fully commit to football for another year. From what I understand, the Packers hung up the phone immediately and announced it to the world. They set an early time for a press conference and it was over before Favre even realized he couldn't pull his little diva tricks on the new regime. This was the time when Favre's agent was pissed off and said they really didn't want him back.

Rodgers saying the team is moving on whether Favre wants to come back or not seems to fit well into the big picture. I don't think Favre was really ready to retire (Havel has hinted to this many times on the radio), I just think he wanted to play little diva tricks to get an offseason off and he ended up getting shoved out the door by a regime that doesn't stand for the whole diva act.

I'll grade that post an A because it's still speculation, yet I believe very close to 'the Truth'.

Courageous post.

[packinpatland]

Is it just me.......................or are his feet HUGE?

[bobblehead]

I'm just curious, for those that think he was too cocky or said something wrong about Brett, what exactly was he supposed to say? "Damn I wish he'd come back and take my job?"

I could care less about what he said; but to answer your question when asked about what would occur if Favre wanted to return the correct answer is "I'll leave that up to the GM since that is out of my control".

No question he messed up on that Favre and his possible future with Packers? His response made him seem 'an insider', and Favre never had a real feel for management and moves to suit his perspctive (hopes).

His response was tactless and just might 'fire up' Brett Favre.

I keep feeling a chance for Favre to play this season (Vikings anyone?) and if I was AR. I wouldn't have gone where he did. Not smart.

TT would let favre come back and sit on the bench for 12 million a year before he ever let the vikings have his rights.....especially at this point when a veteran QB would make them dangerous.

[mission]

I thought he did a great job as well.

However, I have a theory that the Packers are/were ready to move on before Favre really was. I've pieced things together from all of the reports after Favre retired and Chris Havel on the radio. From everything I understand, the Packers gave Favre a date and told him he had to have an answer. On that date, Favre said he had to retire because he wasn't ready to fully commit to football for another year. From what I understand, the Packers hung up the phone immediately and announced it to the world. They set an early time for a press conference and it was over before Favre even realized he couldn't pull his little diva tricks on the new regime. This was the time when Favre's agent was pissed off and said they really didn't want him back.

Rodgers saying the team is moving on whether Favre wants to come back or not seems to fit well into the big picture. I don't think Favre was really ready to retire (Havel has hinted to this many times on the radio), I just think he wanted to play little diva tricks to get an offseason off and he ended up getting shoved out the door by a regime that doesn't stand for the whole diva act.

interesting theory... sounds about right.

kinda shitty, but what i feel will end up being (purely) a much stronger "business/team" move for the time, place, and every other circumstance (another rodgers year on the bench etc).

rodgers is OBVIOUSLY ready to get this show on the road. at least in his mind ... you gotta have swagger to play quarterback and those type of people dont want to play second fiddle when they feel it's their time. i have no problem with him sayin "ok lets get this going, fuck all this stupid media shit"

[MJZiggy]

Is it just me.......................or are his feet HUGE?

Yes, they are. It also looks like Rome likes to give his guests a slightly lower and less comfortable chair than the one he sits in. Either that or Aaron is just that much bigger than he is.

[RashanGary]

Is it just me.......................or are his feet HUGE?

Yes, they are. It also looks like Rome likes to give his guests a slightly lower and less comfortable chair than the one he sits in. Either that or Aaron is just that much bigger than he is.

haha, astute observation. Rome is a little midget. He probably does that to make himself appear like a normal man The chairs have the same height arm rests but Romes seat is higher up to make him appear taller.

[Zool]

Is it just me.......................or are his feet HUGE?

Yes, they are. It also looks like Rome likes to give his guests a slightly lower and less comfortable chair than the one he sits in. Either that or Aaron is just that much bigger than he is.

haha, astute observation. Rome is a little midget. He probably does that to make himself appear like a normal man The chairs have the same height arm rests but Romes seat is higher up to make him appear taller.

Much like Stallone is always shot from below because he represents the Lolli-pop guild.

[Bretsky]

I thought he did a great job as well.

However, I have a theory that the Packers are/were ready to move on before Favre really was. I've pieced things together from all of the reports after Favre retired and Chris Havel on the radio. From everything I understand, the Packers gave Favre a date and told him he had to have an answer. On that date, Favre said he had to retire because he wasn't ready to fully commit to football for another year. From what I understand, the Packers hung up the phone immediately and announced it to the world. They set an early time for a press conference and it was over before Favre even realized he couldn't pull his little diva tricks on the new regime. This was the time when Favre's agent was pissed off and said they really didn't want him back.

Rodgers saying the team is moving on whether Favre wants to come back or not seems to fit well into the big picture. I don't think Favre was really ready to retire (Havel has hinted to this many times on the radio), I just think he wanted to play little diva tricks to get an offseason off and he ended up getting shoved out the door by a regime that doesn't stand for the whole diva act.

I completely buy into this; one might suggest that TT was ready to move on with AROD a year ago even before Favre announced he was coming back. I would not argue with that theory either. AROD is TT's boy.

[Tarlam!]

I completely buy into this; one might suggest that TT was ready to move on with AROD a year ago even before Favre announced he was coming back. I would not argue with that theory either. AROD is TT's boy.

It doesn't really matter. Favre ultimately made the call to retire. TT needed to know.

The year A-Rod was drafted, TT waited for news and none came. Not until well after the draft. The annual waiting game sucked. If TT set a deadline, more power to him.

Let's face it, Favre thrived under disciplined coaching last year. No doubt, he'd have been great this year again, but he wanted special treatment if you buy into JH's theory. The discipline TT and M3 have instilled into the players is not a bad thing, even if #4 was victimized by it.

[Deputy Nutz]

You're just stirring shit, JH. A-Rod was exemplary in that interview.

Brett Favre retired from Green Bay and I hope football. If not, if he still runs out with another team, he'll still make the HOF first ballot, but IMHO, it would be a sign that he missed the boat.

#4 had it in his hands and he decided to retire. I respect that. In his position and with his stature, that was a decision you don't take lightly and definately do not reverse.

A-Rod, KUDOS!!!

The title must be meant to stir sh@t; I'm immune to most of it now. AROD would have no clue whatsoever how MM or TT would react if Favre wanted to return. No clue at all. I'm sure they can feed him full of what he wants to hear; that is what they should be doing in trying to build up his confidence.

Overall a good interview. I hope he thrives for the Pack.

Really Favre goes even higher than Thompson and McCarthy. If Mark Murphy wants Favre back on this team, he is going to get Favre on this team. With the Owners dumping the current deal with the players and looking at an uncapped year in 2010 the Packers are going to need as much revenue as they can muster and that would mean if Favre came back, he would need to come back in the Green and Gold. If Murphy has any idea what is good long term for this franchise he would make sure that if Brett Favre came back to football he would be running the offense in Green Bay.

[Packnut]

Favre

I completely buy into this; one might suggest that TT was ready to move on with AROD a year ago even before Favre announced he was coming back. I would not argue with that theory either. AROD is TT's boy.

It doesn't really matter. Favre ultimately made the call to retire. TT needed to know.

The year A-Rod was drafted, TT waited for news and none came. Not until well after the draft. The annual waiting game sucked. If TT set a deadline, more power to him.

Let's face it, Favre thrived under disciplined coaching last year. No doubt, he'd have been great this year again, but he wanted special treatment if you buy into JH's theory. The discipline TT and M3 have instilled into the players is not a bad thing, even if #4 was victimized by it.

Just may-be Favre thrived cause he had a little talent around him. Please leave JH to say all the stupid ass things around here. No need to help him out.........

[Packnut]

Favre

I thought he did a great job as well.

However, I have a theory that the Packers are/were ready to move on before Favre really was. I've pieced things together from all of the reports after Favre retired and Chris Havel on the radio. From everything I understand, the Packers gave Favre a date and told him he had to have an answer. On that date, Favre said he had to retire because he wasn't ready to fully commit to football for another year. From what I understand, the Packers hung up the phone immediately and announced it to the world. They set an early time for a press conference and it was over before Favre even realized he couldn't pull his little diva tricks on the new regime. This was the time when Favre's agent was pissed off and said they really didn't want him back.

Rodgers saying the team is moving on whether Favre wants to come back or not seems to fit well into the big picture. I don't think Favre was really ready to retire (Havel has hinted to this many times on the radio), I just think he wanted to play little diva tricks to get an offseason off and he ended up getting shoved out the door by a regime that doesn't stand for the whole diva act.

Gee, I guess all those years of playing through the pain and all the sacrifice never earned him the right to make up his mind about wanting to go through it again right? Favre did more for this organization than anyone and for a punk like you to call him names really speaks of how in-mature you really are.

Before, I'd just always write off the supid shit you post to being in-mature. But everyone grows up at some point and this will be a much better forum the day you grow up.


Note to Mad: This forum would be a whole lot better if you install an IGNORE feature. I came here because there were way to many idiots on the Journal's site, but JH makes them look like genious's!

[Tarlam!]

Re: Favre

Gee, I guess all those years of playing through the pain and all the sacrifice[...]

It's not as though he wasn't compensated handsomely for his "sacrifice". I am not taking anything away from Brett Favre. He is the best thing to have happen to the post Lombardi franchise.

Football is a team sport.

[Packnut]

Re: Favre

Gee, I guess all those years of playing through the pain and all the sacrifice[...]

It's not as though he wasn't compensated handsomely for his "sacrifice". I am not taking anything away from Brett Favre. He is the best thing to have happen to the post Lombardi franchise.

Football is a team sport.

Come on now, he played with shit no one else would have and not only played but most of the time on a very high level.

And back to your "disciplined" comment. Tell me, what was "disciplined" about the Monday night bomb heard round the world? Or the bomb in KC?

It was the same Favre, just with talent around him...............

[Tarlam!]

Packnut, Favre was the man. The Man! I travelled a long long way and paid a tonne of dough just to see the Man play. I love Brett Favre in a healthy manlove type of way.

But, he retired. He could have earned 10 million dollars this year. Instead, he decided mowing his acerage was more worthwhile,

He was one of the best paid athletes the world has ever known. He played football. "Played". He did it with less? So the fuck what!! He played a game and was compensated for it with millions and millions of dollars.