Arod shuts door on Favre

[Deputy Nutz]

Really Favre goes even higher than Thompson and McCarthy. If Mark Murphy wants Favre back on this team, he is going to get Favre on this team. With the Owners dumping the current deal with the players and looking at an uncapped year in 2010 the Packers are going to need as much revenue as they can muster and that would mean if Favre came back, he would need to come back in the Green and Gold. If Murphy has any idea what is good long term for this franchise he would make sure that if Brett Favre came back to football he would be running the offense in Green Bay.

YOu really think one more year of FAvre is going to be the magical financial savior for the Packers? Your thinking is pretty dilluted with jock sniffing man love, Nutz. And no, Murphy won't step in. It's Thompson's show.

Yes I do think he will step in. Harlan would have stepped in. If Favre wanted to come back, you bet your bottom dollar Harlan would have bent over backwards to get him back on the roster. One more year keeps Green Bay on the map without having to guess if Rodgers can keep this team in the spotlight. Win, lose, great game, or horrible game, Favre kept this team in the spotlight.

[Deputy Nutz]

Those Rodger jerseys are just flying off the racks.

[MJZiggy]

Really Favre goes even higher than Thompson and McCarthy. If Mark Murphy wants Favre back on this team, he is going to get Favre on this team. With the Owners dumping the current deal with the players and looking at an uncapped year in 2010 the Packers are going to need as much revenue as they can muster and that would mean if Favre came back, he would need to come back in the Green and Gold. If Murphy has any idea what is good long term for this franchise he would make sure that if Brett Favre came back to football he would be running the offense in Green Bay.

YOu really think one more year of FAvre is going to be the magical financial savior for the Packers? Your thinking is pretty dilluted with jock sniffing man love, Nutz. And no, Murphy won't step in. It's Thompson's show.

Yes I do think he will step in. Harlan would have stepped in. If Favre wanted to come back, you bet your bottom dollar Harlan would have bent over backwards to get him back on the roster. One more year keeps Green Bay on the map without having to guess if Rodgers can keep this team in the spotlight. Win, lose, great game, or horrible game, Favre kept this team in the spotlight.

It's an interesting thought, but the problem with the logic is that even if they force Brett back on the team they ruin the relationship that they have with the coach, GM and future quarterback for one more year of Favre jerseys. Then they're in the same financial boat next year--without the great relationships they have now.

[Deputy Nutz]

Really Favre goes even higher than Thompson and McCarthy. If Mark Murphy wants Favre back on this team, he is going to get Favre on this team. With the Owners dumping the current deal with the players and looking at an uncapped year in 2010 the Packers are going to need as much revenue as they can muster and that would mean if Favre came back, he would need to come back in the Green and Gold. If Murphy has any idea what is good long term for this franchise he would make sure that if Brett Favre came back to football he would be running the offense in Green Bay.

YOu really think one more year of FAvre is going to be the magical financial savior for the Packers? Your thinking is pretty dilluted with jock sniffing man love, Nutz. And no, Murphy won't step in. It's Thompson's show.

Yes I do think he will step in. Harlan would have stepped in. If Favre wanted to come back, you bet your bottom dollar Harlan would have bent over backwards to get him back on the roster. One more year keeps Green Bay on the map without having to guess if Rodgers can keep this team in the spotlight. Win, lose, great game, or horrible game, Favre kept this team in the spotlight.

It's an interesting thought, but the problem with the logic is that even if they force Brett back on the team they ruin the relationship that they have with the coach, GM and future quarterback for one more year of Favre jerseys. Then they're in the same financial boat next year--without the great relationships they have now.

Well the Packers are not struggling financially, nor will they if Mark Murphy keeps things as consistent as Harlan did. It has more to do with keeping the Packers in the spotlight, getting air time on national stations, and broadcasts. Rodgers might have the ability to keep this team heading in a winning direction, I don't know and no one else does either. We haven't had a winning season since 1989 without Brett Favre at the wheel of the offense.

Again, even if Favre turns to duck shit in a year, fans and the media alike can't take their eyes off of him. If Rodgers sucks gopher balls, then what? Turning the tv off at say, halftime becomes a more realistic expectation for a good precentage of "Packer Fans".

[the_idle_threat]

Re: Favre

I thought he did a great job as well.

However, I have a theory that the Packers are/were ready to move on before Favre really was. I've pieced things together from all of the reports after Favre retired and Chris Havel on the radio. From everything I understand, the Packers gave Favre a date and told him he had to have an answer. On that date, Favre said he had to retire because he wasn't ready to fully commit to football for another year. From what I understand, the Packers hung up the phone immediately and announced it to the world. They set an early time for a press conference and it was over before Favre even realized he couldn't pull his little diva tricks on the new regime. This was the time when Favre's agent was pissed off and said they really didn't want him back.

Rodgers saying the team is moving on whether Favre wants to come back or not seems to fit well into the big picture. I don't think Favre was really ready to retire (Havel has hinted to this many times on the radio), I just think he wanted to play little diva tricks to get an offseason off and he ended up getting shoved out the door by a regime that doesn't stand for the whole diva act.

Gee, I guess all those years of playing through the pain and all the sacrifice never earned him the right to make up his mind about wanting to go through it again right? Favre did more for this organization than anyone and for a punk like you to call him names really speaks of how in-mature you really are.

Before, I'd just always write off the supid shit you post to being in-mature. But everyone grows up at some point and this will be a much better forum the day you grow up.


Note to Mad: This forum would be a whole lot better if you install an IGNORE feature. I came here because there were way to many idiots on the Journal's site, but JH makes them look like genious's!

All those years of playing in pain and giving his all earned him MILLIONS of dollars...nothing more. You never have a right to anything more than the check. He has the right to pick up that check again...ie. decide on retirement, but he doesn't have the right to drag out the decision til the day before the season starts. I always said favre owed nothing to the regime other than the required services outlined in his contract, and that includes MANDATORY OTA's, and TC, nothing more, on the flip side we owed him nothing more than his salary.

To me it's really sad that people don't respect the loyalty, the "giving it his all" and the man that became the "face" of the Packers for so many years. Excuse my language, but fuck that paycheck bullshit. Anyone that watched Favre throughout his career and watched his retirement press conference KNOWS his career/play was more then a paycheck. So what? The guy had a tough time deciding to retire. All the bullshit about him loving the drama is just that...bullshit. The guy had a tough time deciding to retire, period. Packer fans should be glad he poured enough of his soul into the game for the retirement subject to be a tough decision.

Oh yes ,,, we like it when you talk dirty! :P

[Charles Woodson]

I thought he did a great job as well.

However, I have a theory that the Packers are/were ready to move on before Favre really was. I've pieced things together from all of the reports after Favre retired and Chris Havel on the radio. From everything I understand, the Packers gave Favre a date and told him he had to have an answer. On that date, Favre said he had to retire because he wasn't ready to fully commit to football for another year. From what I understand, the Packers hung up the phone immediately and announced it to the world. They set an early time for a press conference and it was over before Favre even realized he couldn't pull his little diva tricks on the new regime. This was the time when Favre's agent was pissed off and said they really didn't want him back.

Rodgers saying the team is moving on whether Favre wants to come back or not seems to fit well into the big picture. I don't think Favre was really ready to retire (Havel has hinted to this many times on the radio), I just think he wanted to play little diva tricks to get an offseason off and he ended up getting shoved out the door by a regime that doesn't stand for the whole diva act.

Your really going to play that card again?
I think 007 said it well but

If you did anything else in life that required any ounce of energy, then you might be able to fathom the toll football takes. You never, have/will/can explain what he would gain from playing "diva". Football requires a hell of alot on your body, and it must have been hard parenting his kids. The reason that he takes a while is because football is a half year comitment. He cant stop in the middle so he had to make sure he was physically, and mentally prepared to play another year.
Besides, with your lil diva explanation, if he was just trying to steal the spotlight, why did he retire?

Ya know, with all the times you've accused us of our ""jock sniffing love"" for Favre, you seem to be pretty high on sucking A-rods dick.
The only difference is Favre's already proven what hes got down there. Has A-rod?

[GrnBay007]

Re: Favre

Oh yes ,,, we like it when you talk dirty! :P

:P

[GrnBay007]

Ya know, with all the times you've accused us of our ""jock sniffing love"" for Favre, you seem to be pretty high on sucking A-rods dick.
The only difference is Favre's already proven what hes got down there. Has A-rod?

LOL!

Go C. Woodson!

[packinpatland]

Those Rodger jerseys are just flying off the racks.

If he doesn't play as well as he talks...........that'll stop in a heart beat.

[Pugger]

Good grief, more of this?

I don't think TT or MM 'forced' Brett to retire but I wouldn't doubt they asked him to make a decision by such and such. I'm sure they were getting as weary as some of us were in this annual 'will he retire or won't he?" I can understand how a guy who has played football since he was knee high to a toad can have a hard time making that decision but it wasn't fair to the organization to drag this out either. I honestly think Brett can still physically perform at a high level but if his heart isn't in it, then he made the right choice to call it a career.