Favre very probably was pressured into making this decision before he was absolutely ready to. Even then, if he had ANY inkling that he might want to return he should have just said he was going to return. He shouldn't have said "I don't want to anymore" if he thought he just might want to do it again. Favre changed his mind, not TT. TT has done his job of moving on post Favre, and it's not fair to him or Rodgers given all the work they've both put in for Favre to come back in as the unquetioned starter this year. Especially if Rodgers is 100% committed to the job while Favre is less than that.
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After the Giants game last season, I think it crossed TT's mind. I have faced reality: Brett Favre is an excellent erratic QB that won us the Seattle game but did nothing special to help us win the Giants game and get us to the big dance.Originally posted by The LeaperIf Thompson is so damn smart about not needing Favre, then trade him to the Vikings and prove all of us doubters wrong.
Considering he earns nearly 750 K per regular season game (20 times what some of us make annually at our jobs), I wanted a better performance against the Giants than we got.
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Bingo. Thompson is putting all his eggs in one basket with Rodgers. Thompson is usually right, but this going to put even more pressure on Rodgers to succeed. It would actually be better for him if he sat the bench while Favre played in 2008. Worst case senario is that Favre come back and doesn't play like Favre of 2007 and Rodgers becomes the most popular guy in Green Bay.Originally posted by The LeaperCan you imagine what would happen if Thompson brick-walled Favre...then Rodgers got hurt opening night?
Thompson would be fortunate if Packer fans only killed his dog.
If Favre makes a big deal about coming back, and the Packers grant his wish, he better be willing to give it everything he has, because if he falters, he will be as well liked as Ted Thompson, if Thompson didn't open the door up to Favre in the first place.
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If the rumors gathered so far are to be believed, we know:
1) Favre wants to play badly enough that he would accept being released.
2) The Packers did not immediately accept him back, which led to point number one.
3) The Packers want to "protect Favre's legacy" whatever that means to them. They obviously can't protect Favre from himself so this will likely end up meaning that they will protect his legacy as a Packer. Meaning they will get rid of him before he causes too many disruptions, and so he can have his ugly Washington Wizards season(s) in some other uniform. Presumably protecting Favre's legacy as a Packer would not include letting him show up in Lambeau in a Viking or Bear jersey, another argument against Favre's outright release.
From past experience we know:
1) Ted doesn't give a shit what Brett or anyone else thinks is best for the team. He'll do what he does and let the results speak for themselves.
2) The Packers have plenty of cap room. There is no need to release Favre. They can activate him and then decide what to do.
3) Teams will overpay for legendary players, whether to roll the dice for a title or to put fans in the seats.
4) Great players typically don't know when to quit.
This adds up to Favre getting traded, unless Favre proves to be one of the rare exceptions to point number four.
It is possible the Packers could activate Favre then look into adding players such as Jason Taylor with the decision to keep Favre contingent on the results of those negotiations. But I really doubt Thompson and McCarthy want to introduce that level of speculation right before camp.
Therefore, my prediction is a trade. My hope is that Favre doesn't want to end his career elsewhere and just makes a clear statement that he is done.#14
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Originally posted by woodbuck27Scott sorry man. Your extreme prejudices leave you blind. Now try to aim for 'not really dumb'.Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by woodbuck27STEP 1
If TT uses his head and is in control . ..........
Ted's not the one being wishy washy Woody.
You are the one with an extreme prejudice Woody. It's no secret you don't like Ted Thompson. It's no suprise you think that TT's franchise should be known as the Green Bay Favres. But facts are facts Woody. Favre changed his mind, not TT. Scott was merely pointing out that obvious fact, and you call him blind for it. Perhaps it's time to open your own eyes...Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
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Actually we know absolutely nothing about TT's ego, but he has proven he is smarter than everyone else.Originally posted by PacknutI'll take the worst case scenario. The Harrell pick is all anyone need's to know about the Thompson ego (I'm smarter than everyone else).
He'll trade Brett to Tampa for a 5th rounder (gee another draft pick for Teddy).
Favre leads the Bucs to the SB..............
The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Huh?? Google 2008 NFL draft, under "Packers" you'll see 2 guys in the quarterback position.Originally posted by Deputy NutzBingo. Thompson is putting all his eggs in one basket with Rodgers. Thompson is usually right, but this going to put even more pressure on Rodgers to succeed. It would actually be better for him if he sat the bench while Favre played in 2008. Worst case senario is that Favre come back and doesn't play like Favre of 2007 and Rodgers becomes the most popular guy in Green Bay.Originally posted by The LeaperCan you imagine what would happen if Thompson brick-walled Favre...then Rodgers got hurt opening night?
Thompson would be fortunate if Packer fans only killed his dog.
If Favre makes a big deal about coming back, and the Packers grant his wish, he better be willing to give it everything he has, because if he falters, he will be as well liked as Ted Thompson, if Thompson didn't open the door up to Favre in the first place.Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967
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You have to understand something about Woody. TT has proven WOody wrong time and time again to the point he hasn't had anything to bash TT for. This just reignites Woody's hatred.Originally posted by GunakorOriginally posted by woodbuck27Scott sorry man. Your extreme prejudices leave you blind. Now try to aim for 'not really dumb'.Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by woodbuck27STEP 1
If TT uses his head and is in control . ..........
Ted's not the one being wishy washy Woody.
You are the one with an extreme prejudice Woody. It's no secret you don't like Ted Thompson. It's no suprise you think that TT's franchise should be known as the Green Bay Favres. But facts are facts Woody. Favre changed his mind, not TT. Scott was merely pointing out that obvious fact, and you call him blind for it. Perhaps it's time to open your own eyes...
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Read my article I bring up Brohm in the article. But neither of the two guys you cared to mention are going to be ready in 2008. In fact I am having hard time figuring out why you even mentioned them in such a sarcastic tone.Originally posted by sheepsheadHuh?? Google 2008 NFL draft, under "Packers" you'll see 2 guys in the quarterback position.Originally posted by Deputy NutzBingo. Thompson is putting all his eggs in one basket with Rodgers. Thompson is usually right, but this going to put even more pressure on Rodgers to succeed. It would actually be better for him if he sat the bench while Favre played in 2008. Worst case senario is that Favre come back and doesn't play like Favre of 2007 and Rodgers becomes the most popular guy in Green Bay.Originally posted by The LeaperCan you imagine what would happen if Thompson brick-walled Favre...then Rodgers got hurt opening night?
Thompson would be fortunate if Packer fans only killed his dog.
If Favre makes a big deal about coming back, and the Packers grant his wish, he better be willing to give it everything he has, because if he falters, he will be as well liked as Ted Thompson, if Thompson didn't open the door up to Favre in the first place.
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Your article is boring drivel and how can you say TT puts all his eggs in one basket when he drafts 2 quarterbacks, makes at least one offer to an NFL veteran that we're now aware of. I'm just not following it bud.Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967
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If someone concludes that the blame for the Giants loss is entirely or mostly Favre's, they are making an error in judgment.Originally posted by Tarlam!After the Giants game last season, I think it crossed TT's mind. I have faced reality: Brett Favre is an excellent erratic QB that won us the Seattle game but did nothing special to help us win the Giants game and get us to the big dance.
Favre did not play great that night...he was mediocre. The OT INT was a horrible decision...one Favre is always prone to make. However, Favre also played well enough in regulation to have 2 TD passes and was one dropped pass away from being in prime position to win.
Favre was the main reason the team was 13-3. He was the main reason the team won the division and had HFA throughout the playoffs. He was the main reason the team didn't fold like a tent after Seattle put us in 14-0 hole in the first playoff game. He remains our best chance to repeat last year's success and make another run.
None of that is true of Aaron Rodgers...something which I'm quite positive is not an error in my judgment.My signature has NUDITY in it...whatcha gonna do?
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LOL, he is so smart he hasn't put together a solid offensive line since he got here. Even the dumbest person in the NFL knows that is where offense begins. Guess he is just too smart for not addressing that problem. If you don't know that Thompson has a big ego, then apparently you haven't been paying attention since he got here.Originally posted by bobbleheadActually we know absolutely nothing about TT's ego, but he has proven he is smarter than everyone else.Originally posted by PacknutI'll take the worst case scenario. The Harrell pick is all anyone need's to know about the Thompson ego (I'm smarter than everyone else).
He'll trade Brett to Tampa for a 5th rounder (gee another draft pick for Teddy).
Favre leads the Bucs to the SB..............
"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
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He already PUT the Packers in a perfect spot to get to a Super Bowl.Originally posted by woodbuck27STEP 1
If TT uses his head and is in control . He certainly welcomes Favre back and does so ASAP publicly.
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With Favre back he then uses some of our CAP $ to make a concerted effort to acquire Miami's Jason Taylor. I mean he gets that done. Favre draws Jason Taylor.
He push's for both Favre and Jason Taylor to commit to 2008 and 2009, and he fills in the blanks to give us 'a realistic opportunity' to get through to the Super Bowl.
This scenario places Aaron Rodgers in a difficult place but he's paid well as a back-up and a QB that's never started an NFL game.
Time to see if TT can really manage to get us to 'The Game'.
PACKERS FOREVER.
A few players did not come through.
Time to move on.Who Knows? The Shadow knows!
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