What Will Brett Ultimately Do?

[woodbuck27]

Your article is boring drivel...........

Then write something better or shut the hell up.

People shouldn't be ridiculed for significant content contributions to this site - whether you agree with the author or not.

THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR.

Lay off Buck. I have a vested interest in this comment. PR authors are very special to me and I hate seeing their work shot up by people sitting on their asses watching from the sidelines.

OK mj. revision:

mj... THE ULTIMATE WARRIOR.

Acceptable 'to YOU'?

[Carolina_Packer]

Brett, if you still have the desire and can still do it, please come back. Packer management, please handle this well. He's your franchise guy and if you cause bad pub and bad blood because of the way you handle this, I think the fans will get on you big time. It's a difficult/delicate situation to handle, and I'd err on the side of letting him come back and compete for the starters job, and if he's got last year's talent still in him, he's still better than Rodgers as far as helping the team win. Hopefully Brett decides soon and hopefully he comes back to the Packers and doesn't get traded or released. That would be a bad situation. He should be a Packer until the ultimate end of his career.

[bobblehead]

Re: Favre

I'll take the worst case scenario. The Harrell pick is all anyone need's to know about the Thompson ego (I'm smarter than everyone else).

He'll trade Brett to Tampa for a 5th rounder (gee another draft pick for Teddy).

Favre leads the Bucs to the SB..............

Actually we know absolutely nothing about TT's ego, but he has proven he is smarter than everyone else.

LOL, he is so smart he hasn't put together a solid offensive line since he got here. Even the dumbest person in the NFL knows that is where offense begins. Guess he is just too smart for not addressing that problem. If you don't know that Thompson has a big ego, then apparently you haven't been paying attention since he got here.

I believe he is incredibly confident that his is the best way to build a team...is that your definition of a huge ego? I guess he could be a mealy mouthed puss and just read this forum for his ideas.

I also think he has sunk more picks into OL than any other position (could be wrong) and it is the OL that made all those nice holes for grant in the second half and the same OL that kept favre all but untouched all season.

Yea, yea, I know, it was all grants running and favre quick release. College is awful (never mind he is light years ahead of wahle as a 3rd year player) and the other guard spot has rotated (effectively no less).

TT took an aging cap challenged team and in 3 years put it into overtime in the NFC championship game. If you think it was all favre that did that you weren't watching the 7-8 years prior to last year when we DIDN'T make it that far. Eventually you will be forced to swallow a bitter pill...he is smarter than most everyone else when it comes to building a football team.

[Tarlam!]

Your article is boring drivel and how can you say TT puts all his eggs in one basket when he drafts 2 quarterbacks, makes at least one offer to an NFL veteran that we're now aware of. I'm just not following it bud.

Go ahead and send me another PM begging me to leave you alone, it certainly not gonna happen, time to get your balls busted fucker.

Now this just pisses me off. I thought i was the only special rat to receive one his little emails.

No, Tyrone, I got a few of them myself. Maybe i have one over you and Nutz, though.

Did Sheepdip beg Mad for you to stop harrassing him in a PM?

Seems like your dirty little secret is out Sheepdip. Talk it up all tough, but you really can't deal with a dispute, can you? Go ahead and PM me again. I can't wait to ignore it.

[sheepshead]

Actually, I was privately asking him what your problem is. You seemed very very troubled. This is more than the sauce my friend. I'd get some assistance and lay low if I were you.

[woodbuck27]

Brett's coming back to Green Bay.

The more I think about it, the more it sinks in as the only real possibility.

Yes... depended on communication with TT and their agreemeent.

[Deputy Nutz]

Actually, I was privately asking him what your problem is. You seemed very very troubled. This is more than the sauce my friend. I'd get some assistance and lay low if I were you.

You telling Tarlam to lay low? What the fuck does that mean you confused Donkey? More of us here would rather listen to Tarlam ramble on about German engineering than have to read one more or your sarcastic posts where you honestly believe you know more about everything than anyone else. You know you should really walk your twat looking face into the Journal Sentinel and apply for a job as a Packer beat reporter, I sure you have the talent and the eye.

[woodbuck27]

Brett, if you still have the desire and can still do it, please come back. Packer management, please handle this well. He's your franchise guy and if you cause bad pub and bad blood because of the way you handle this, I think the fans will get on you big time. It's a difficult/delicate situation to handle, and I'd err on the side of letting him come back and compete for the starters job, and if he's got last year's talent still in him, he's still better than Rodgers as far as helping the team win. Hopefully Brett decides soon and hopefully he comes back to the Packers and doesn't get traded or released. That would be a bad situation. He should be a Packer until the ultimate end of his career.

100% A+

[Packnut]

Re: Favre

I'll take the worst case scenario. The Harrell pick is all anyone need's to know about the Thompson ego (I'm smarter than everyone else).

He'll trade Brett to Tampa for a 5th rounder (gee another draft pick for Teddy).

Favre leads the Bucs to the SB..............

Actually we know absolutely nothing about TT's ego, but he has proven he is smarter than everyone else.

Well, we agree to disagree. Harrell was an ego pick no matter how the Thompson crowd wants to slice it. Out of the billion prognosticators, only one that I know of predicted that pick. When you combine Harrell's injury history dating back to HIGH SCHOOL, this was no doubt a "high risk" pick.

Now why does one make a high risk pick? The logical answer is to say "I'm smarter than everyone else". Thompson has proven he can evaluate talent so why did he miss so badly with Harrell? Ego plays a huge part in human behavior, especially at that level.

As for your comment about Teddy proven to be smarter than anyone else, again I would point to the Harrell pick. Missing on the 16th player taken in the draft is not "smart" but rather just plain dumb. I advocated taking either Bowe or Nelson. Both had outstanding rookie seasons and both will be above average players-that is a FACT already proven.

Right now Harrell is nothing more than a ?. His injury history tells us he'll never be on the field long enough to prove his worth...........

Note: The Nelson pick was fantastic and shows Teddy is the best GM on the planet when it comes to evaluating WR's.

[sheepshead]

Interesting Take here: (I dont like loosing Rodgers however, but that's the thrust of his thinking)

Simple decision - Bring Favre back to Pack

By Tyler Dunne
tydunne07@yahoo.com
Posted Jul 3, 2008


If quarterback wants to continue football career, let him do so in Green Bay, says Packer Report's Tyler Dunne

Yes, Aaron Rodgers is 100 percent, sign/sealed/delivered ready to be the Green Bay Packers starting quarterback, but remember Brett Favre’s overtime teardrop bomb to Greg Jennings on MNF last year?

Yes, at some point the entire Packers franchise needs to move on – into a new era, with a new identity and a new quarterback, but remember Favre tossing three touchdowns inside a Lambeau snow globe against Seattle?

Yes, Rodgers could be a potential Pro Bowl quarterback. He’s the brainchild of the Ted Thompson/Mike McCarthy regime. The textbook fundamentals in the pocket. The field vision. And the get-out-of-my-way confidence. Love it. I had no problem with his Sports Illustrated comment. It’s his attitude – raw, a little cocky, bold. But gosh ... remember Favre slicing a missile of a slant pass to Jennings in the fourth quarter against San Diego to cap a thrilling comeback?

If Brett Favre had thrown 3,000 yards, 17 touchdowns, 28 picks and the Packers had missed the playoffs last season, this decision would be a cinch. Rodgers has been groomed within the system for this inheritance, and the Packers brass could politely turn down Favre.

But forces have collided for a Favre comeback and Thompson would be out of his mind to prevent it in any way, shape or form.

Much talk has focused on the fact that Wisconsin is a sitting duck about to be blasted by the storm of the century. Favre wants to come back and the Packers don’t want him. That’s the mutual feeling right now. One report says Thompson never tried to talk Favre out of retirement – a gesture the quarterback would have welcomed. Other reports say the Packers hope Favre values his legacy, front-office jargon for “stay away.”

The clouds are hovering, a light rain is drizzling and soon homes will be uplifted.

But it doesn’t have to be that way. Invite Favre back. It wouldn’t cause a locker room fiasco – Al Harris hinted at the Wednesday, saying he’d welcome him back. If Tom Brady hadn’t erupted in ’07, then Favre would have been named MVP. No team would ever consider releasing or trading a MVP player. No team would rid themselves of 4,155 yards and 28 touchdowns that easily.

He retires, and now wants to return? Let him. Imagine the energy and emotion that would instantly be pumped into the team. Imagine how quickly all of the young players would grow up even more. Imagine the decibel level of the last two years on Favre’s contract. Favre’s return instantly makes Green Bay a Super Bowl favorite.

What to do with A-Roj? The guy can’t catch a break. He’s a real-life Ben Stiller movie.

From that April ’05 draft day when Rodgers sat idly in the green room like a passenger at the airport whose flight kept getting delayed, to Wednesday, when he was probably wondering if he’s destined to be a backup for life. Favre has been a thorn in his side. Aaron Rodgers deserves better. He has seamlessly earned the respect of rookies and veterans alike over the past few weeks in OTAs and minicamps.

But Favre’s comeback changes everything. And one crafty draft pick turns his return into reality. Brian Brohm would have been a top 10 pick in ‘07 and the Packers got him at 56th overall. He isn’t Aaron Rodgers right now, but in two years, he could be. Maybe better. Brohm’s quick release and experience in a pro style offense at Louisville would suit him well as Favre’s new heir apparent. When Favre’s contract expires in two seasons, Brohm would be ready – much like Rodgers is now.

The Packers would have to trade Rodgers. Grant him the right to be a starting quarterback in the NFL, somewhere. Ideally not in Minnesota or Chicago but somewhere. Favre deserves to come back and Rodgers deserves to start. Appease to both, because Brohm makes it possible.

If all the Packers had behind Rodgers were Matt Flynn and Quinn Gray, saying au revoir Rodgers would be tough. But Brohm could be a future NFL star.

Thompson is the shot-caller for a franchise at a monumental crossroads.

Scott Favre, Brett’s brother, confirmed the actuality of the quarterback’s desire.

“I think it's 50-50,” said Scott Favre to WTMJ-TV. “There’s no doubt he can play. He's in good shape, he’s working out, we know he can still play, he’s healthy, so, if he did, it wouldn't surprise me.”

Favre’s “it’s all rumor” text message to the Biloxi Sun Herald isn’t exactly a watershed to the media frenzy that turned the entire state of Wisconsin upside down Wednesday, either. It’s not exactly a refute to the ESPN hullabaloo. Think of it simply as a “we’re talking behind closed doors” comment.

Face it Ted, Brett Favre is the Packers and the Packers are Brett Favre.

But more than that, you don’t release or trade a player that just finished second in the MVP voting, made the Pro Bowl and was SI’s Sportsman of the Year. He isn’t Troy Aikman or Dan Marino. This Hall-of-Fame duo combined for 19 touchdowns and 31 interceptions in their injury-shortened final season.

So it took a few months of lonely fishing and boring lawn-mowing, but Favre’s realizing something. He’s healthy. He’s at the top of his game. And the Packers are a Super Bowl contender.

The savvy selection of Brohm should tip the first domino on a keep-Favre, trade-Rodgers scenario. Thompson shouldn’t fret over Favre’s desire to return. His “draft the best player available” philosophy has been executed to perfection.

It’d be asinine – and the worst decision in Packers history – to dispose of Favre like T.J. Rubley.

If Favre indeed wants to come back, Thompson’s decision is a lot easier than it seems.

[Tarlam!]

Actually, I was privately asking him what your problem is. You seemed very very troubled. This is more than the sauce my friend. I'd get some assistance and lay low if I were you.

Well Sheepdip, maybe you were concerned about my health and Mad is a dumb Mexican that politely asked me to get off your case out of him being too stupid to get your true message.

You need to know, though, Mad aint dumb, though he is Mexican. And he won't be saving your shitty little behind in future. And you can continue to bash my "sauce" problem all you want, Sheepdip, but when I am dry, I'll have fixed my problems. You have issues that you have no idea where to start fixing.

Do you even have a single friend on here? Does anybody here care if you come and go?

[Tarlam!]

Brett, if you still have the desire and can still do it, please come back. Packer management, please handle this well. He's your franchise guy and if you cause bad pub and bad blood because of the way you handle this, I think the fans will get on you big time. It's a difficult/delicate situation to handle, and I'd err on the side of letting him come back and compete for the starters job, and if he's got last year's talent still in him, he's still better than Rodgers as far as helping the team win. Hopefully Brett decides soon and hopefully he comes back to the Packers and doesn't get traded or released. That would be a bad situation. He should be a Packer until the ultimate end of his career.

Nice sentiments, but, that's all they are. Sentiments. This is the NFL. No place for being sentimental. I want management to make a call tht will get us the SB title next season and every other season. I do not give a toss about a man that was paid 750 k per game feeling shitty.

Sorry, we paid Brett everything he was worth and then, on top of paying him what 15 Packerrats earn annually per friggin' 3,25 week period based on an annual calculation, we loved him. We adored him. We whorshipped (ever wonder why the word whore is almost in whorship?) the very ground he walked on.

Still, it'd be nice to see him play against Atlanta.

[gbgary]

if Brett wants to play another year...fine. you let him. if Rodgers doesn't like it but will hang...fine. if he wants to be traded...trade him. they love Brohm so they make him #2 behind Brett. MM is another year smarter and if Brett can, at least, play as well as last year they'll have a shot.

shit! i don't think i really believe everything i just wrote.

ok...if Brett wants to play another year give him his release and let's move on. we'll know soon enough if Rodgers "has it".

shit! i don't think i really believe everything i just wrote.

[Tarlam!]

Why, Gary? Why do they let him? They put him under contract so long that he would retire a Packer. Tell me, Gary, why should the club let him play for, say, the Queens?? Why exactly?

[Carolina_Packer]

Here's the thing. If Brett had announced late last season that he was going to play another year at least, I think everyone would have been on board with it (or most here). Why not? He had a great season overall. The only difference I see is his timing; having had announced his retirement at a press conference. Him coming back doesn't diminish my first point that people would have been OK with him declaring he's still going to play. So, if you don't want him back, it's basically saying you're bothered by the way he's handled thing with the retirement presser and now possibly coming back. Bottom line, if he can still do it and win, who cares if he had a press conference and is now wavering again. Once he gets on the field and performs (hopefully at the same high level), nobody will care what transpired before.