BREAKING NEWS: Brett Favre asks Packers for his release

[3irty1]

Quite illogical, if you are M3 or T2, one and done doesn't get it done. They want another contract. And I can't believe you would be so sanguine next year with Brohm when the prospect of Rodgers (who was drafted higher and has more experience) this year leaves you unsure. You haven't even seen Brohm practice, much less in preseason or a game.

And if Favre retires in mid-August? Gets hurt (OK, that's a longshot)?

Or what if he simply retires next year? Under the operating definition of this thread, we would be Siberia again. Without a groomed heir to Favre. Do you like Brohm in a year over three year vet Rodgers?

Why on Earth is the solution to ship Favre? How is this a tough decision???

If Rodgers is in the way deal HIM. We've done it before with guys like Hasselback and Bulger. A-Rod's stock has never been higher after an offseason worth of praise and some impressive action against the Cowboys last year. Cash in on A-Rod and suddenly we could be super bowl favorites THIS YEAR.

The presence of Brian Brohm in GB is a sign that this is supposed to happen. We already have a top drawer QB of the future prospect once Rodgers is gone.

I like having the best in place to win this year and Brohm next year doesn't worry me. Everything we've read suggests that he's been an exceptional learner and is on the fast track to being an NFL starter. If Favre gets hurt we're in the same situation we'd be in if A-Rod gets hurt.

Rodgers has more experience? Not by much at all. Brohm is just as good of a prospect as Rodgers and there is no reason he can't be ready to be a starter next year or the year after. Much rawer guys see action much earlier. Hell, the fact that they think highly enough of him to let him back up A-Rod as a rookie says it all. What is illogical is turning what should be a blessing into a nightmare. The Packers are soon going to have a mini-rebuild where they will need to replace multiple pro bowl starters (our only pro bowlers actually). The time to win is this year.

[woodbuck27]

Is there still a chance Favre is a Packer come September?

NO !!

[sheepshead]

Is there still a chance Favre is a Packer come September?

NO !!

Sure there is.

[falco]

Is there still a chance Favre is a Packer come September?

NO !!

Sure there is.

i think its very conceivable yet that Favre and the packers work something out for this year... all depends on how TT weighs his options

but the more that comes out, the more bad taste i get in my mouth about all of it, and don't have much of a problem with the two parting ways

[RashanGary]

Did you get a new Moose avatar, Woody? That thing looks pissed off today

[Fritz]

[quote="mraynrand"]

We probably won't know, because any Packer player that speaks his mind to the media about this is crazy and Sam Cassell doesn't play for the Packers.

Funny. But I bet a lot of people talkas 'SOURCES' - then they can pretty much say what they want without having to accept responsibility. "NFL sources say Favre waffled" "Glazers sources confirmed the NFL sources." Buncha candyassed pansies.[/quote]

Favre used this line of thinking when he texted Al Jones and wrote that "it's all rumor." Turns out Favre was lying - yes, lying - and the "candyassed pansies" the sources - were right.

[pbmax]

Really? Dragging the decision into June is commitment? Working out with a high school team is commitment? Missing QB camp is commitment? Missing minicamp is commitment?

Not participating in the offseason conditioning is commitment? Partial attendance at OTAs in the past is commitment? Openly grousing about meetings, minicamps and OTAs is commitment?

Remind me never to book you for a motivational speech Bretsky

Everyone on this board has been told you cannot just turn on the competitive instinct and compete at the highest level. Favre is as clearly bored with preparing to play as he is of riding the tractor, hunting or golf. This is the textbook definition of lack of commitment.

. I guess it's hard for me to get all stoked up for a guy who isn't even stoked up to play.

What a bunch of fucking bullshit. Like he wouldn't be stoked up to play. Favre busted his ass last year, and there's no reason to think he wouldn't do it again this year. .

I can't agree more with this and it's getting sick to read. I can understand those that don't want Favre back for the right reasons but I think the lack of committment theory is bullshit.

Favre has busted his balls when he's been willing to commit under MM; I think he more than displayed that last year. He'll be committed if he comes back; he missed a OTA so far. He changed his mind.
He'll be committed to the team he ends up getting shipped off to.

[pbmax]

Rodgers has three years of experience, Brohm has none. I think thats a large difference.

Rodgers has more experience? Not by much at all. Brohm is just as good of a prospect as Rodgers and there is no reason he can't be ready to be a starter next year or the year after. Much rawer guys see action much earlier. Hell, the fact that they think highly enough of him to let him back up A-Rod as a rookie says it all. What is illogical is turning what should be a blessing into a nightmare. The Packers are soon going to have a mini-rebuild where they will need to replace multiple pro bowl starters (our only pro bowlers actually). The time to win is this year.

[Carolina_Packer]

Screw this do not release him or trade him. If he wants to play he plays in the Green and Gold. We can just have a REAL expensive third stringer

I realize you might be joking around, however, if anyone thinks this is a viable option, think of what it might do to the lockerroom, plus, you'd still have to pay him big bucks to ride the pine. Awkward to say the least.

I don't know if the Packer brass will have a sudden change of heart and not want to do the unthinkable and trade/release (releasing less likely) the franchise/HOF-in-waiting/poster child, but my vote would be to calm the waters and would rather deal with him playing for the Packers and giving them the best chance to win now vs. handing the reigns to Rodgers.

[falco]

Screw this do not release him or trade him. If he wants to play he plays in the Green and Gold. We can just have a REAL expensive third stringer

I realize you might be joking around, however, if anyone thinks this is a viable option, think of what it might do to the lockerroom, plus, you'd still have to pay him big bucks to ride the pine. Awkward to say the least.

I don't know if the Packer brass will have a sudden change of heart and not want to do the unthinkable and trade/release (releasing less likely) the franchise/HOF-in-waiting/poster child, but my vote would be to calm the waters and would rather deal with him playing for the Packers and giving them the best chance to win now vs. handing the reigns to Rodgers.

imagine favre on the sideline with a smug look on his face every time AR throws an interception

[Carolina_Packer]

Maybe from another angle. If an NFC Championship caliber team and a $12 million contract isn't enough, just what do you think Brett Favre needed in order to be convinced to play in March?

I think Favre was exhausted. Nothing would have convinced him.

He needed time to rest and relax before he could adequately determine his level of commitment.

I'm not challenging you when I ask this; just wondering how plausible this thought is. Has anyone waited out the post retirement ponderings of a guy like Favre or even close to Favre's ability or status to "leave a spot open for him" if he changed his mind? Is that what a responsible GM/organization does? That's what they would have had to have done in order to make this work, unless they spoke candidly to A-Rod and said, look, Brett just retired and it's your job to lose now, however, if Brett decides to come back, we have to push you back to second string. Would that be an effective way to run an organization? Unless someone can come up with another scenario of how this could have been set up to allow for Favre's possible decision to "un-retire", that is how they would have had to handle this from March 6th until now. Again, I don't have answers to what is most responsible, and this is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for the organization.

The team has to decide between poison pills to take at this point. Take the A-Rod pill and ask Favre to come back and be the QB again and make a run at it (and alienate A-Rod in all likelihood), or take the Favre pill and trade/release (less likely to release) Favre and have your legacy be that you were the ones to move Favre from the Packers. Nice choices, huh?

[Carolina_Packer]

If the Foxsports story is true, and Favre jerked them around like that in March, I have to say the team management is correct in moving forward without him.

I am a huge Favre fan, but that is just wrong what he did to them in March (if the story is accurate). They were justified at that point in making a decision to stop screwing around and get this team ready with the players that they know they have.

So, instead of anyone who might just think, poor Brett wasn't wanted anymore by those meanies in the front office, perhaps there is more to the front office's reluctance to just welcome him back with open arms than any fan will ever know. If it was just a random, isolated act of egotism on TT's part to not bring him back and back his own draft pick, then it might be a mistake, not just for possibly this season, but to be viewed in his own legacy as the man who sent Favre packing (no pun intended).

[3irty1]

Rodgers has three years of experience, Brohm has none. I think thats a large difference.

Rodgers has more experience? Not by much at all. Brohm is just as good of a prospect as Rodgers and there is no reason he can't be ready to be a starter next year or the year after. Much rawer guys see action much earlier. Hell, the fact that they think highly enough of him to let him back up A-Rod as a rookie says it all. What is illogical is turning what should be a blessing into a nightmare. The Packers are soon going to have a mini-rebuild where they will need to replace multiple pro bowl starters (our only pro bowlers actually). The time to win is this year.

Rodgers has three years experience on the sidelines. Both of these guys are highly regarded but also complete question marks. After Brohm has a year to develop he's got the same chance of success as Rodgers. Its not like they're rushing him out there and they already feel comfortable with him backing up Rodgers as a rookie--that speaks volumes.

[Carolina_Packer]

I'm fine with a peaceful release.

How bout at the end of camp? With Brett having no opportunity to practice with his new team?

Yeah, nobody would see through that one as an FU to Brett. If you're going to divorce, don't become an asshole in the process, especially since more fans will side with Brett and what he's meant to the organization than they would with TT or MM. That would be a fool's game to do that. Pehaps you were just joking around, as you are want to do (and I laugh often).

[Carolina_Packer]

I'm with scott. Activate him and try and trade him to the AFC. If you can't swing a deal, cut him in the last cuts.

I agree with this.

I don't. I think his stock goes down the less chance he gets to go to a team and start training camp. If you're going to sell (and I hope they work something out, even if it hurts A-Rod), then sell high. If he attends our training camp and it's a smokescreen, then other organizations might pass because he'd be so behind the learning curve. I'm sure if they are sellers, they are working the phones right now.