BREAKING NEWS: Brett Favre asks Packers for his release

[Carolina_Packer]

Nobody remembers Johnny Unitas in San Diego, or wherever he played.

I think he played for the COLTS, Harlan. HA HA, Johnny U in San Diego! FUnny one! That will be the day!

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...U/UnitJo00.htm Check out 1973. That's what Harlan was talking about. I've heard all the echoes of guys coming back for hanger-on years, like Unitas with the Chargers, Emmit with the Cardinals, OJ with the 49'ers, Namath with the Rams, etc. I don't think any of them were as good at an advanced age as Brett is.

[Scott Campbell]

Pehaps you were just joking around, as you are want to do (and I laugh often).

Mostly joking. But I'd use the threat of that leverage as the stick to get Brett to keep his mouth shut and play nice.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ya Ayn Rand, you big dummy. Don't you know ANYTHING?

[Fritz]

Nobody remembers Johnny Unitas in San Diego, or wherever he played.

I think he played for the COLTS, Harlan. HA HA, Johnny U in San Diego! FUnny one! That will be the day!

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...U/UnitJo00.htm Check out 1973. That's what Harlan was talking about. I've heard all the echoes of guys coming back for hanger-on years, like Unitas with the Chargers, Emmit with the Cardinals, OJ with the 49'ers, Namath with the Rams, etc. I don't think any of them were as good at an advanced age as Brett is.

I'd have to agree. At the same time, people assume that Favre will just pick up where he left off, and I'm not sure that without the constant heavy training he did the last couple of years that that's necessarily going to happen.

[Scott Campbell]

I'm fine with a peaceful release.

How bout at the end of camp? With Brett having no opportunity to practice with his new team?

Yeah, nobody would see through that one as an FU to Brett. If you're going to divorce, don't become an asshole in the process, especially since more fans will side with Brett and what he's meant to the organization than they would with TT or MM. That would be a fool's game to do that. Pehaps you were just joking around, as you are want to do (and I laugh often).

And again, I need to clarify my position. I'd play Brett this year. I'd also kick him in the nuts for creating all this trouble.

I come up with these scenarios just to play Devils advocate.

[packers11]

John Clayton just said the most possible scenario is the he will be the starting QB by week 1...

the least would be if he gets released.

[Packers4Ever]

but his entire legacy could be tarnished over this situation

I think his entire legacy will come down to this situation.

If he screws up here, his career in Green Bay won't last long. If he decides to throw Favre to the curb and Rodgers doesn't pan out, Thompson might be out of the NFL before Favre is.

Give the guy credit for being bold. Keeping Brett is the safer move, and would placate the majority of Packer nation. It's definitely the path of least resistance.

I've been in Favre's corner all the way. yet I can't help but feel
a bit sorry for TT's plight either.

It sort of spoils his GM of the Year award.
But that was for 2007, wasn't it? You win some, lose some....

[Sparkey]

You really don't have enough information to be all angry and beligerent right now.

I think I do. I'm ticked that a guy who played an MVP level season for the Packers last year, is a living legend, is the face of the Packers franchise, is one of the best 5 QBs to EVER play the game, is a hell of a lot of fun to watch, etc. appears, to me, to be being forced out in favor of a guy that hasn't started ONE DAMN GAME. To me that's INSANE.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8335678

Doesn't seem too forced to me....

[woodbuck27]

. I guess it's hard for me to get all stoked up for a guy who isn't even stoked up to play.

What a bunch of fucking bullshit. Like he wouldn't be stoked up to play. Favre busted his ass last year, and there's no reason to think he wouldn't do it again this year. .

I can't agree more with this and it's getting sick to read. I can understand those that don't want Favre back for the right reasons but I think the lack of committment theory is bullshit.

Favre has busted his balls when he's been willing to commit under MM; I think he more than displayed that last year. He'll be committed if he comes back; he missed a OTA so far. He changed his mind.
He'll be committed to the team he ends up getting shipped off to.

I can understand this split on our forum because I never will believe that after last season Favre would be the QB of choice for TT and his boss. I believe there is too much evidence built up since Ted Thompson's arrival that didn't support winning and Brett Favre.

A solution to get us to the Super Bowl was treated 'at best' casually by TT last season, and agree with it or not, TT had Randy Moss well in hand and blew it. Today Randy Moss is the top ranked WR in the NFL.

Despite that Favre did double time in his commitment to our team. He busted his ass for us and nearly had a career year. Did he burn out? it's now obvious to many of us 'in fact' he did. Yet he was the QB for a 13-3 record. He was the QB that took us to within one win of that super Bowl appearance. That fact of burn out is a huge factor in his need to take more time to decide on 2008 and his beloved Packer team.

For GOD's sake why can't the Favre slayers here see that? They somehow believe that Aaon Rodgers will get it done better than Brett Favre. They certainly now will see if they are correct.

To slam Brett Favre to get their agenda and total support of Ted Thompson 'to reality', is in my opinion assinine at best. To support determination of what TT has to do, to reduce Favre's dream of another Super Bowl, specifically as to who Brett Favre can or can't suit up with, is wrong. Dead wrong and karma will play a role in determining just how wrong that is. If that agenda unfolds.

Karma can be weighed to the good here.

Ted Thompson has to act speedily. He wants Favre back or he doesn't. Ted Thompson can't toss up a smoke screen over this issue. He has to act to protect Packer history one way or the other. Welcome Favre back or release Favre outright and ASAP. No trade and no stall. Brett Favre certainly deserves that much respect. We then have to respect his rights to play for any team that wants him. Under no circumstances given all we know. Brett Favre and a trade isn't right.

I hope Ted Thompson demonstrates some class as this issue stands. I hope Ted Thompson offers Favre's outright release in the next week. That move and only that move best describes 'a win - win situation' for both sides and the Packer Organization. If Ted Thompson and his boss's have decided to move on without Brett Favre. Feel they have the solution without Brett Favre. Then demonstrate that with an outright release. This situation of Brett Favre and Ted Thompson and the Packers, has to end with the class of the Packer Organization foremost and 'in tact'.

A recent quote of Ted Thompson from an interview over Brett Favre and his desire to play as our QB:

“We understand this is a very volatile, sensitive thing,” Thompson said.

“Fans are unbelievably passionate about this team and passionate about Brett Favre. We understand that, and we’re going to try to stay steady, consistent, and try to do the right thing for Brett Favre and the Green Bay Packers.”

As sad as this has become I can live with that as a Packer fan. Favre's outright release. It's time to say goodbye. It just got this way and it must end.

PACKERS FOREVER >>>> moving forward.

[woodbuck27]

I'm fine with a peaceful release.

How bout at the end of camp? With Brett having no opportunity to practice with his new team?

Yeah, nobody would see through that one as an FU to Brett. If you're going to divorce, don't become an asshole in the process, especially since more fans will side with Brett and what he's meant to the organization than they would with TT or MM. That would be a fool's game to do that. Pehaps you were just joking around, as you are want to do (and I laugh often).

And again, I need to clarify my position. I'd play Brett this year. I'd also kick him in the nuts for creating all this trouble.

I come up with these scenarios just to play Devils advocate.

No Scott Campbell ! I think you came up with your scenario, because you can't rise above YOU.

[Carolina_Packer]

I disagree with you Woody. I hope the Packer brass don't give him his outright release because while that would free up the cap dollars, certainly, it wouldn't allow the Packer brass any leverage and he might sign with a team where Brett could hurt the Packers. If Brett wishes to be gone and there is no salvaging the relationship to bring him back to the active roster to compete for the starters position at QB, then trade him. That would have to be made abundantly clear from Favre's camp. If he's willing to stay on the roster and compete for the starting job, then keep him. It's all on Brett and what he's comfortable with at this point, IMO. First, obviously, he has the be reinstated according to his desire, then he has to work it out with the Packers if he is willing to accept the role they want him to have. With Rodgers being so prone to injury, I would think he'd see a shot with Green Bay as good as any. Also, if the competition is indeed wide open, he has to like his chances to beat out Rodgers, and Rodgers would just have to accept the competition and not feel entitled.

[son of a vic]

I've been out of the loop for a while, but I see Woody still has a man crush on Teddy. The earth will still rotate on it's axis if Brett's not the QB in GB. This QB of legend is doing his best to sully his legacy by acting like a woman scorned. Get over it y'all, he ain't comin' back, and that wasn't Ted's call. Favre made his decision and now he should sack up and stand by it, instead of ripping apart the team that made him a rich hillbilly.

[pbmax]

Like Tank's unrequited love for Logan Mankins, it should be abundantly clear that Moss doesn't equal a Super Bowl trip. He hasn't for nearly 10 years and he likely will continue to be overvalued.

Of far greater concern is the defense and its pass rush. That was the case last offseason and continues to be the case this season. For this year, you can add the second CB and Safety position as areas of concern. And it goes without saying that we may have as many as four guards who can play full time, or possibly none.

To say failing to land Moss equates with failing to try to win with Favre simply defies all logic of last years team.

My question to those who question Thompson's commitment is this:

Why are you not examining Favre's commitment to the same extent?

Skipping the offseason weight program, OTAs, minicamp, QB camp and practicing with a High School Football team would have gotten Favre shipped to Arizona under Holmgren. Why is this OK today?

A solution to get us to the Super Bowl was treated 'at best' casually by TT last season, and agree with it or not, TT had Randy Moss well in hand and blew it. Today Randy Moss is the top ranked WR in the NFL.

[digitaldean]

Woody,

There is no way on earth other teams would have handled this situation differently.

I don't hate Favre at all. Over the last few months he has acted like a juvenile. He has to voice his opinion through surrogates. When TT and M3 were going to fly down to Mississippi and go over plans on announcing his return Favre says "oops, sorry, changed my mind".

Even when TT visited Brett's home in April before the draft, Brett never said squat about returning.

Try quitting your job and ask your employer back for it 6 months later. More often than not you're going to be out of luck.

In going over this with the media today, it still appears TT is leaving the door open for Favre to play. But Brett still has to make a move. For once, he needs to man up and address the issue publicly HIMSELF.

Contracts should be lived up to. If the Packers have him under contract for the next 2 or 3 seasons. They are obligated to pay him 12 or 13 MILLION BUCKS a year as long as he wants to play. If Brett wants to play only in Green Bay as he professed last year, then he can let the chips fall where they may here. If he wants out, he has to realize the Packers aren't stupid enough to release him just so he can join the Queens or Bears.

No one player, no matter who it is, is bigger than the team. Skipping workouts, OTA's, having a private dressing room, etc. does not exude being a teammate. Even his comments on mentoring Rodgers showed a lack of professionalism.

I will always cherish the way Favre helped lift this team from the dumpster. But, guess what, he didn't do it himself.

Also, we keep hearing about how little support Favre got from TT. I think that was more true during Wolf's end and Shermy's tenure than now. Randy Moss still didn't get his SB ring yet did he? (even with Tom Brady at QB)

Grant gave him a running game, Jennings and Driver played well last year.

Brett is responsible for most of this mess, not TT.

[son of a vic]

pbmax, you cannot infuse your factual statements into Woody's fictional fantasy. You are better than that!