Favre: Comitted Enough for 2008?

[pbmax]

This has been driving me crazy since the leaks started. Several on the board and elsewhere believe Favre is the obvious choice for 2008, given a choice between Rodgers and Favre.

I have stated several times that Favre seems to me to be less committed now than he has ever been. He has missed offseason conditioning, he missed OTAs, he missed QB camp, and he missed minicamp. In its place, he is practicing with a High School football team.

He has clearly done many of these things in the past and had good years and last year's very good one. But Favre has also struggled in the playoffs, seemed to struggle in the second half of the season and clearly is not the same quarterback in bitter cold and wind that he used to be.

I'm ready to vote for Rodgers over Favre right now, even if you put all the offseason distractions and retirement aside. What about you?

[Scott Campbell]

I voted for Favre because he's a known commodity. That, and I just watched the tape of the Seattle playoff game.

[GoPackGo]

You must believe that Rodgers will beat these stats from 2007
4155 yards
28 TD's
15 INT's
QB rating 95.7
13-3 record


I don't think Rodgers can beat those stats and I think Brett could do it again. Therefore I think Brett should come back in 2 weeks to beat Rodgers for the starting spot. I like Rodgers, but unless he can beat Favre in a camp battle, he should keep waiting

[MJZiggy]

I have hinted at this before but now I'll say it flat-out. Favre had a great year last year, but a 38-year old athlete cannot let his conditioning go all offseason and expect to pick it up and play at the same level, especially with reduced reps. He busted his ass last year just to maintain, and now he has to rebuild core muscles that have atrophied since the end of last year as this is what happens to muscles that get older. Add to that the fact that last year was an anomaly compared to the years before it and what you have is an aging qb who had an exceptionally good year last year even for him. People act like because he's Brett Favre, there's no way he can lose because he won last year, but he did manage to lose some games in the years prior to last. He had to think long and hard about if he even wanted to do this and still seemingly can't manage a statement much less a 100% commitment.

Contrast that with A-Rod's statements about can't wait to get here to start working on 2-a-days...

[GoPackGo]

I have hinted at this before but now I'll say it flat-out. Favre had a great year last year, but a 38-year old athlete cannot let his conditioning go all offseason and expect to pick it up and play at the same level, especially with reduced reps. He busted his ass last year just to maintain, and now he has to rebuild core muscles that have atrophied since the end of last year as this is what happens to muscles that get older. Add to that the fact that last year was an anomaly compared to the years before it and what you have is an aging qb who had an exceptionally good year last year even for him. People act like because he's Brett Favre, there's no way he can lose because he won last year, but he did manage to lose some games in the years prior to last. He had to think long and hard about if he even wanted to do this and still seemingly can't manage a statement much less a 100% commitment.

Contrast that with A-Rod's statements about can't wait to get here to start working on 2-a-days...

Thats speculation. We don't know how much he's been working out. You forgot to mention that the recieving core played brilliantly last year and is poised to do it again.

[Scott Campbell]

I doubted Brett on the field just one other time. I thought he should have taken the week off when Big Irv died. I won't bet against him on the field ever again.

Though I can see where he might have become such a complete pain in the ass that his talent just isn't worth it anymore.

[GoPackGo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6LcGbHxR8

Is Rodgers going to make that throw? We know Brett will

[MJZiggy]

I have hinted at this before but now I'll say it flat-out. Favre had a great year last year, but a 38-year old athlete cannot let his conditioning go all offseason and expect to pick it up and play at the same level, especially with reduced reps. He busted his ass last year just to maintain, and now he has to rebuild core muscles that have atrophied since the end of last year as this is what happens to muscles that get older. Add to that the fact that last year was an anomaly compared to the years before it and what you have is an aging qb who had an exceptionally good year last year even for him. People act like because he's Brett Favre, there's no way he can lose because he won last year, but he did manage to lose some games in the years prior to last. He had to think long and hard about if he even wanted to do this and still seemingly can't manage a statement much less a 100% commitment.

Contrast that with A-Rod's statements about can't wait to get here to start working on 2-a-days...

Thats speculation. We don't know how much he's been working out. You forgot to mention that the recieving core played brilliantly last year and is poised to do it again.

He hasn't been working out with a professional football team like the rest of the team has. And the receiving corps will play brilliantly for either quarterback. The fact that Favre is a known quantity does not ensure that he will always be better.

[Scott Campbell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_6LcGbHxR8

Is Rodgers going to make that throw? We know Brett will

Forget everything I've said the last 2 weeks. PLEASE COME BACK BRETT!!!!!



Was Kornheiser prophetic or what?

[Scott Campbell]

Now that my convulsions have subsided, I remember some equally catastrophic throws. But GAWD, that one was pretty.

[GoPackGo]

that was 9 months ago. People forget quickly don't they?

[Brando19]

Favre forever.

[PackerBlues]

I don't understand why people think that things have changed all that much since the end of last season. Roger's still has not started a game, and Favre still has not missed a start. Why would that have to change now?

[woodbuck27]

Aaron Rodgers @ ZERO Starts Vs Brett Favre @ 275 Consecutive starts and coming off a 13-3 Record and 4000 + yards and 28 TD's and . . . and . . . and. . . more plus's.

Easy selection there. It's spell'd... FAVRE.

Core muscle questions and conditioning and Brett Favre and his competitive spirit and all his experience dealing with the pocket and defensive allignments Vs a young QB with almost zero experience, that gets hurt falling off a players bench.

An easy choice as to who WILL be our starting QB. Noone better say it was difficult to let him go and do so and not expect to loose his hide.

FAVRE is OUR QB.

[Lurker64]

FAVRE is OUR QB.

Brett Favre is formally retired and is therefore nobody's QB

If he decides to unretire, well we'll see how good he looks in training camp. I have concerns about him not working out as much this offseason as previous offseasons, which might hurt his performance on the field. Still, the only way we're going to know whether he's still the same Brett as last year is if he shows up at camp, at which point we'll see how good he looks.

Maybe he's been working out all offseason, maybe he's been sitting on the couch seeing how many twinkies he can eat. I don't know, I'm not kept in the loop on what Favre does on a daily basis. But these questions can be answered if he shows up to camp, which is his only option other than "stay retired."