Favre: Comitted Enough for 2008?

[MJZiggy]

You really want Brett to wind up in Minny and make a run at taking the division from us, don't you? That is precisely why they don't release him. If he doesn't want to play for the Packers, then he will be agreeable and cooperative to a trade that allows the team to keep him out of our division and put Brett in a position to go to another team and let the Packers be compensated for him. That's why.,

[digitaldean]

If TT did release Favre, I WOULD call for him to be canned.

That would rank right up with the Herschel Walker trade the Vikes pulled.

Trade Brett? Yes, that I could see happening. But that's a 50-50 proposition.

Even LeRoy Butler in an interview said that if he was TT, he'd trade Brett.

[GoPackGo]

Because he looked like a different QB at the end of the season and played mediocre in that final game. That is why. Favre isn't suddenly forget how to throw the football or read a defense. He simply won't be able to do whathe has done in the past.

Its your guess he will. I think the odds he slips are better. There is no way to be sure. But for the next five years, I like the odds of Rodgers/Brohm over Favre (1-3years)/Brohm.

He was playing football 6 months ago in the playoffs. Why assume he wouldn't be ready by September?

Thinking about the future is great and all, but what about building on last season? Replacing the QB now would most likely be a step back this year in hopes of multiple steps forward in the coming years. Last year the Pack were 1 step from the superbowl. I don't think now would be a smart time to take a step back when the Superbowl is this close.

[woodbuck27]

FAVRE is OUR QB.

I don't know about that Woody, I wouldn't blame Thompson if he wants to start Rogers. My only problem will be on how Favre is handled. Worse case scenario, I want to see him traded to a team that he is happy with and willing to play for. If Favre wants to play, let him finish his career somewhere else if that is his only option.

But if Thompson has it in his head that he is going to either bench Favre (not likely imo), or trade him off to a shit team that offers more in compensation than a team that Brett wants to go to (outside the division of coarse), then that is the only problem that will make this situation worse than it really needs to be.

The really simple thing here is for management to go with what they had already decided. Show some class and make it very clear that the decision was firm to move on without Brett Favre and give him his outright release and a thanks Brett it's been great.

this should be done before TC's open to be fair all around. For the life of me I can't see why this isn't a 'no brainer' for more people here. It's neat and clean.

Favre then makes his best deal .

They want him or they don't and no way on earth will i support handcuffing the man against choosing his best path.

I still believe that smarter heads will prevail and Favre will be released and very soon 'in fact'.

favre

I understand the sentiment Woody but I just can't for the life of me see them do that. It seems fairly clear they don't really want him but they aren't going to give him away, despite the appearance of unfairness.

He signed a deal to play for Green Bay, if he wants to come back and draw a 12mil paycheck he's gotta do it there unless the Packers say otherwise.


Sentiment and loyalty do have a place in the NFL, but it's always had its limits.

Rastak:

I live in my world Man. That world is lonely and also beautiful. It's defined by fairnesss and integrity and the path of least resistance. It's defined by standing by your words and actions and not waffling. It's a world of courage and right thinking to make way for the better good overall.

Before it gets worse for Brett Favre I want him to first retire and that still seems like the Packer management focus at this point.

As a second option I'm a Favre supporter and 'a Packer fan' and quite simply I want him to start again for us. Yet deep down I feel that will just resume the charade I've witnessed here since TT arrived. I have zero doubts that TT was brought in to hasten Favre from the starting position as our QB. I have little doubt that it's not TT that's pulling the strings in this latest Favre story and that he hasn't been in clear control since he arrived.

Ted Thompson is simply damn well doing what his boss tells him to. I actually have sympathy for Ted Thompson as his position is too obvious. If anyone believes otherwise then I'll inform you that most people have a boss.

So it falls on the Packer Organization and it's distinguished history and acclaim to get this done right. Favre for a draft pick. Too sick. Trade and unwanted Brett Favre after the season he gave us in 2007. Really sick.

Just keep it simple... RELEASE BRETT FAVRE already.

[Lurker64]

If TT did release Favre, I WOULD call for him to be canned.

Agreed 100%. If Thompson releases Favre, he should be fired immediately.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If TT did release Favre, I WOULD call for him to be canned.

Agreed 100%. If Thompson releases Favre, he should be fired immediately.

Agreed. Said so from the very beginning.

The Packers are a BUSINESS. Any business that would just give away one of their assets for nothing in return should be taken to the woodshed by their owners..the shareholders.

The packers have a responsibility as a business to get the most they can for their assets...be it Favre or selling a building/equipment/etc.

[woodbuck27]

If TT did release Favre, I WOULD call for him to be canned.

Agreed 100%. If Thompson releases Favre, he should be fired immediately.

So you support Favre as our starting QB in 2008. Good too.

Trouble is.. TROUBLE.

[RashanGary]

Though I can see where he might have become such a complete pain in the ass that his talent just isn't worth it anymore.

I questioned Brett after the 2005 season when he seemed like he didn't give a shit. Other than that, I've always believed in his football ablity. I'd still think he's the better bet to be a better player than Rodgers but it has come to the point where I don't think the pain in the ass is worth it any more. I voted Rodgers because I don't think Favre deserves to be on this hard working, dedicated football team.

[Lurker64]

If TT did release Favre, I WOULD call for him to be canned.

Agreed 100%. If Thompson releases Favre, he should be fired immediately.

So you support Favre as our starting QB in 2008. Good too. ]

Well, I want (and I expect) Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson to do whatever helps the Packers the most. "Playing Favre", "Sitting Favre on the Bench as a back-up", and "trading Favre" are all choices that would help the Packers (some more than others).

"Releasing Favre unconditionally" is something that does not help the Packers, and it would sheer incompetence if they did it. That's the only decision here that the Packers can make which is unequivocally wrong.

[Bretsky]

You must believe that Rodgers will beat these stats from 2007
4155 yards
28 TD's
15 INT's
QB rating 95.7
13-3 record


I don't think Rodgers can beat those stats and I think Brett could do it again. Therefore I think Brett should come back in 2 weeks to beat Rodgers for the starting spot. I like Rodgers, but unless he can beat Favre in a camp battle, he should keep waiting

HARD TO DEBATE FACTS

I WONDER WHERE 85% COMES FROM ? BF HAS MISSED LIMITED TIME AND IMO IT'S REASONABLE TO THINK HE'LL GIVE MM 100%

PUT EMOTIONS ASIDE AND LOOK AT EVIDENCE

THIS IS EASY

[Bretsky]

that was 9 months ago. People forget quickly don't they?

He's too old to make that throw now

[Bretsky]

Because he looked like a different QB at the end of the season and played mediocre in that final game. That is why. Favre isn't suddenly forget how to throw the football or read a defense. He simply won't be able to do whathe has done in the past.
Its your guess he will. I think the odds he slips are better. There is no way to be sure. But for the next five years, I like the odds of Rodgers/Brohm over Favre (1-3years)/Brohm.

He was playing football 6 months ago in the playoffs. Why assume he wouldn't be ready by September?

too general

he didn't look different vs. Seattle
he was ok in the 1st three quarters vs NY and terrible in qtr 4 and OT

His play can falloff 90% and he remains the best alternative in 08

[RashanGary]

Not too many are arguing that he's not a good player, Bretsky. AS a player I still think he can be a top 5 QB.

Rodgers is a pretty gifted guy too so there is no saying he can't be a probowler (Tony Romo style).

If it was only football I'd still take Brett too. But there is more than that.

I think you have to set a standard for participation and being a part of the team. Favre was just a cancer in that regard. Maybe he didn't need it, but if my teammates were working I'd be there no matter what. I think that is what good teammates do. Rodgers earned his shot by doing everything right. Favre lost it by doing everything wrong.

[pbmax]

Past results never guarantee future returns. Its a guess what Favre will do this year compared to last.

The 85% is what McCarthy said to Favre about reducing his time commitment during the season compared to last year. McCarthy was of the mind that it could be reduced and Favre still be effective. This was a conversation after Favre said he was leaning to retiring but hadn't announced it yet.

HARD TO DEBATE FACTS

I WONDER WHERE 85% COMES FROM ? BF HAS MISSED LIMITED TIME AND IMO IT'S REASONABLE TO THINK HE'LL GIVE MM 100%

PUT EMOTIONS ASIDE AND LOOK AT EVIDENCE

THIS IS EASY

[pbmax]

Woodie, please give me the name of the person/people who brought Thompson in to remove Favre. Harlan? The Exec committee?

And why? From a strictly bottom line standpoint for the coming year, don't the Packers stand to lose revenue if he retires?

Yet deep down I feel that will just resume the charade I've witnessed here since TT arrived. I have zero doubts that TT was brought in to hasten Favre from the starting position as our QB. I have little doubt that it's not TT that's pulling the strings in this latest Favre story and that he hasn't been in clear control since he arrived.

Ted Thompson is simply damn well doing what his boss tells him to. I actually have sympathy for Ted Thompson as his position is too obvious. If anyone believes otherwise then I'll inform you that most people have a boss.