The official Brett Favre for QB in 2008 thread

[woodbuck27]

I wasn't trying to do anything. I'm just saying if you wanna glorify the good, you have to look at the bad too or your vision gets fuzzy.

Who called that play MJ?

[The Shadow]

I wasn't trying to do anything. I'm just saying if you wanna glorify the good, you have to look at the bad too or your vision gets fuzzy.

Who called that play MJ?

So you throw the ball up - even if your man is covered - because "it's the play"??????????

[woodbuck27]

Sorry, but if you're gonna show one, you have to show the other one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tSdtkMiAKak&feature=related

Who called that play MJ? Can you tell us that?

Who cares who called it? Who executed it? Who called the plays on the 28TD's Brett threw? MM. Should he get the credt for those as well.

My god, some of you people are unbelievable.

There is often just no end to the jock-sniffing around here.

NO jock sniffing just the facts that all add up to a pick.

Is it MM's fault or Favre's fault? Did DD run the correct route to the outside? It's a tough analysis and therefore difficult to assign blame.

That means don't piss all over Favre on that pick, and extend that to supporting the end of his career on our team. PLEASE.

[MJZiggy]

I wasn't trying to do anything. I'm just saying if you wanna glorify the good, you have to look at the bad too or your vision gets fuzzy.

Who called that play MJ?

Was it called or was it an audible? Who chose to make that throw with 2 open receivers on the other side of the field? You cannot exonerate Favre for that throw by trying to blame M3 for it. Favre had 3 options. He took the one that got him killed. And that wasn't my point to begin with. You can't base an opinion solely on the Denver throw without realizing that it's not always like that with him. And that the older he gets, the less likely you get Denver and the more likely you get NY. Especially at the end of the season in the cold.

[Fred's Slacks]

Sorry, but if you're gonna show one, you have to show the other one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tSdtkMiAKak&feature=related

I can watch that season killing play and know that it never would have happened if Brett wouldn't have led the Pack to the NFC championship game. Its a moot point. Nice try though

You are right. Had Favre not been leading the way, this team probably would not have been in the Championship game. However the point is not moot. Favre has brought the only championship to Green Bay in my lifetime and for that I am appreciative. However he has had numerous other chances and has not capitalized. We can point to the Giants last year, the Eagles in 03 and the Broncos in 97. Those were all golden oppurtunities to bring home another championship and he couldn't capitalize. There were always plays like this one that stuck out. I am not trying to say that those losses were all his fault but we also can't say he is the only reason we got that far.

I agree that Favre at 100% gives us our best chance. But Favre at anything less than 90%? I am not so sure.

[woodbuck27]

I wasn't trying to do anything. I'm just saying if you wanna glorify the good, you have to look at the bad too or your vision gets fuzzy.

Who called that play MJ?

Was it called or was it an audible? Who chose to make that throw with 2 open receivers on the other side of the field? You cannot exonerate Favre for that throw by trying to blame M3 for it. Favre had 3 options. He took the one that got him killed. And that wasn't my point to begin with. You can't base an opinion solely on the Denver throw without realizing that it's not always like that with him. And that the older he gets, the less likely you get Denver and the more likely you get NY. Especially at the end of the season in the cold.

Is it MM's fault or Favre's fault? Did DD run the correct route to the outside? It's a tough analysis and therefore difficult to assign blame.

That means don't piss all over Favre on that pick, and extend that to supporting the end of his career on our team. PLEASE.

[MJZiggy]

It also means don't pretend Favre is a god because the throw in Denver landed where it was supposed to. Everyone else had just as much to do with that success as they did in the failure. You don't get one without the other.

[Partial]

I wasn't trying to do anything. I'm just saying if you wanna glorify the good, you have to look at the bad too or your vision gets fuzzy.

The bad? You mean a wobbly pass in the coldest game in NFL history to an open receiver? You can't really blame him for that, it was happening to everyone all game long. It was a heck of a play by the DB.

[GoPackGo]

I agree that Favre at 100% gives us our best chance. But Favre at anything less than 90%? I am not so sure.

right on Fred. But why wouldn't Brett be at 100%? Strahan pulled the same shit with the Giants last year. I fault Brett 100% for this fiasco and I think TT has handled it beautifully. These things happen. Both sides need to forgive and move on together

[MJZiggy]

I wasn't trying to do anything. I'm just saying if you wanna glorify the good, you have to look at the bad too or your vision gets fuzzy.

The bad? You mean a wobbly pass in the coldest game in NFL history to an open receiver? You can't really blame him for that, it was happening to everyone all game long. It was a heck of a play by the DB.

I think you need to watch the video again, there, P. And I believe the Chicago game was colder IIRC, I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

And if you're going to go all the way down to blaming the weather, you can also say that the ball travels farther in the thin Denver air.

[lod01]

We got a rally going: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...Favre?MSNHPHMA


Clayton says who's starting week 1:
ESPN's John Clayton reports if Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre is in shape and willing to make the time commitment as he did last year, he's going to beat out QB Aaron Rodgers for the starting job. That's a no-brainer.

Go Favre!!!!!!!!!!

[The Shadow]

[quote="Partial"]

I wasn't trying to do anything. I'm just saying if you wanna glorify the good, you have to look at the bad too or your vision gets fuzzy.

The bad? You mean a wobbly pass in the coldest game in NFL history to an open receiver? You can't really blame him for that, it was happening to everyone all game long. It was a heck of a play by the DB.[/quote]

The point is : it happened to him - AGAIN!!!!
The DB received yet another generous gift from Favre's neverending largesse.

[pbmax]

I notice few videos posted of the Bears, Rams or Dallas games. Were those all just bad calls by the coach?

Sorry, but if you're gonna show one, you have to show the other one.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tSdtkMiAKak&feature=related

I can watch that season killing play and know that it never would have happened if Brett wouldn't have led the Pack to the NFC championship game. Its a moot point. Nice try though

Agreed.

[The Shadow]

We got a rally going: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8...Favre?MSNHPHMA


Clayton says who's starting week 1:
ESPN's John Clayton reports if Green Bay Packers QB Brett Favre is in shape and willing to make the time commitment as he did last year, he's going to beat out QB Aaron Rodgers for the starting job. That's a no-brainer.

Go Favre!!!!!!!!!!

That's what the inmates always say as they attempt to take over the asylum.

[pbmax]

But it is not difficult for you to credit Favre for the good, and withhold judgment over the bad. You have to account for everything, not just the feel good plays.

Is it MM's fault or Favre's fault? Did DD run the correct route to the outside? It's a tough analysis and therefore difficult to assign blame.