NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

[the_idle_threat]

Hey Paco and Merlin. . .

Get on board or SHUT UP!!





This is a great day for trolls.

Fixed.

[RashanGary]

Hey Paco and Merlin. . .

Get on board or SHUT UP!!





This is a great day for fans of justice.

You are a fan of stupidity, I see that very clearly now. Next thing you know you will be clamoring for Rex Grossman when Rodgers gets hurt walking into the building the first day of TC.

Merlin, GBRulz, trust me, there is nothing you can say that will take away from this moment for me. Favre is a very bad teammate and does not deserve to play in the NFL.

[Bretsky]

That is not exactly the message Favre gave tonight; that is the message TT put out via the press though.

I saw the interview, I am sick of Brett Favre lying to me. He lied to me in March, and he lied to me tonight. I've seriously lost faith in Brett Favre as a "quality human being", he's a damn good player but he's disingenuous and sneaky. I think Brett Favre owes every single Green Bay Packer fan a sincere apology for his travesty of a "retirement" press conference he held in March. I'll be waiting for an apology, but I don't think I will get one.

I don't feel that way. He should have taken more time or as much time as he needed. He felt pressed, made a call, and changed his mind.

I actually feel that there is a discrepancy in what the Packer Brass gave to the media and what Favre perceives he was told by them. Of course the majority in here have already formulated strong views based on the info put out by the Packer brass via the media while we don't trust the info put out by Favre's relatives

But it's clear he thinks he was told he can not come back to GB; regardless of what they are telling us not.

GOSH I wish I didn't have to work tomorrow so I could hear the ESPN analysis from their hosts.

Not sure where the truth is anymore.

[Brando19]

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

Here's the transcript.

[Bretsky]

Was there a question about the March near-unretirement?

nope

[Merlin]

Maybe MM is the one TT is worried about losing over this ordeal.
Think about this: Brett has his retirement bash in early March.
Later that month "if true" he tells TT he wants to come back and then shortly before they get to finalize that, Brett decides to retire - again.
MM acts on the assumption that Brett is "officially retired" and prepares the upcoming OTA's and practices with all indications that Arod is his QB.
Everything is going according to plan and MM's happy about they way the team is coming around with the "new" offense.
Then bingo-Brett wants to come back and MM would have to start all over again wasting the time already put into the "new" system.
Maybe he tells TT that he won't coach that way and TT doesn't want to lose a pretty good coach over this fiasco.
Don't really know but maybe.

There is probably a lot of truth to that but teams change entire offenses in 1 week during the season. I find it hard to believe that the offense has changed THAT much. If Rodgers is all that and a bag of chips, we may have added some QB draws. Other then that, why couldn't he run the same offense? My guess, he isn't all that and a bag of chips.

[Merlin]

Hey Paco and Merlin. . .

Get on board or SHUT UP!!





This is a great day for fans of justice.

You are a fan of stupidity, I see that very clearly now. Next thing you know you will be clamoring for Rex Grossman when Rodgers gets hurt walking into the building the first day of TC.

Merlin, GBRulz, trust me, there is nothing you can say that will take away from this moment for me. Favre is a very bad teammate and does not deserve to play in the NFL.

Wtfever man, keep on living in that glass house. Sometimes it just isn't worth it and you my friend are not.

[pbmax]

At this point I have lost track. PFT had a rumor Favre would be allowed to compete. Wilde and the PressGazette had "role to be determined".

There was a leak about being a backup.

Has T2 or M3 gone on record with a quote about backup status?

[Chevelle2]

At this point I have lost track. PFT had a rumor Favre would be allowed to compete. Wilde and the PressGazette had "role to be determined".

There was a leak about being a backup.

Has T2 or M3 gone on record with a quote about backup status?

TT said the backup statement was taken out of context. That is, he would be considered 2nd string NOW, because he's not on the roster.

[Merlin]

I have only read the quote from Thompson where he says:

"Favre's welcome back, but the scenery has changed. There may be a different role," Thompson said. "He becomes an active member of the roster, and then we'll see how it goes from there. We don't have the answers right now, because it hasn't happened, and we don't know that it will."

Other then that, I thought the "backup" comment was writer embellishment.

[GBRulz]

Merlin, GBRulz, trust me, there is nothing you can say that will take away from this moment for me. Favre is a very bad teammate and does not deserve to play in the NFL.

Keep the comments coming, JH and Trojan condoms might want to cast you in their new ad campaign.

[MJZiggy]

TT in his initial interview said that he could come back to the team but his role would be different. Then, when the media went nuts on his statement he said that he didn't say backup, that they hadn't decided anything and he'd never dealt with anything like this before.

[Merlin]

This is the clarification that I read:

Sunday, July 13, 2008
Just to clarify ...
One thing that probably deserves clarification following GM Ted Thompson's remarks Saturday is that he never said Brett Favre only would be welcome back as a backup.

The Associated Press originally ran a story saying that. It was a remark taken out of context. The story was adjusted, but I've seen too many stories from other papers and remarks from fans continuing to use that remark.

What Thompson indicated throughout the day in visits with various reporters was that Favre would not return as the starter. There is a difference.

If Favre tells the Packers definitively he wants to come back -- which he has not done, according to Thompson -- he would be added to the roster, since the only other option would be to release him, which the team won't do. If Favre would remain on the roster into training camp and beyond, the Packers would have to determine his role. He well could end up the starter. But the Packers never address such hypotheticals, and the mere implication that Favre wouldn't immediately reassume his old role is reason to believe he will remain to determined to play elsewhere, if he plays at all.

It's difficult to imagine a scenario in which Favre would back up Aaron Rodgers. For one, it would be awkward even having both on the same practice field in camp. It also would make no sense financially for the Packers, who would be bound to pay him his entire $12 million salary if he's on the roster for even one week. So, if he asks to be reinstated to the roster, a trade remains the most likely scenario. It doesn't seem the Packers are convinced he'll make that reinstatement request.

To summarize, Thompson never said the Packers only would have Favre as a backup. He simply indicated Favre would not be anointed the No. 1 quarterback upon his return, and even though Favre probably would be confident he could beat out Rodgers for the job, it's enough uncertainty (and, perhaps, perceived disrespect and unwelcomeness) to believe Favre will continue to pursue opportunities elsewhere.

And yes, I know a lot of you aren't happy about that.

-- Tom Pelissero, tpelisse@greenbaypressgazette.com

posted by PackersNews.com at 5:33 PM | 6 Comments

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/index.shtml

[BF4MVP]

I have only read the quote from Thompson where he says:

"Favre's welcome back, but the scenery has changed. There may be a different role," Thompson said. "He becomes an active member of the roster, and then we'll see how it goes from there. We don't have the answers right now, because it hasn't happened, and we don't know that it will."

Other then that, I thought the "backup" comment was writer embellishment.

Agreed, Merlin. I don't think TT ever said anything about Brett being a backup, and it's unfortunate that Brett thinks he did....

[Merlin]

Merlin, GBRulz, trust me, there is nothing you can say that will take away from this moment for me. Favre is a very bad teammate and does not deserve to play in the NFL.

Keep the comments coming, JH and Trojan condoms might want to cast you in their new ad campaign.

Sharp tongue, gotta love it!