NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

[PackerTimer]

There was absolutely nothing of consequence in this interview. The only thing that was new was that he would have liked to wait until training camp. FUCKING TRAINING CAMP people. How on earth can he say that with a straight face. And before I hear one person say he earned that right, how the hell do you prepare for a season without knowing who will be your starting QB?

I know there are a lot of people who are gonna say he sounded so sincere and honest. To me it was another load of BS. I said this is another thread, for years there were hints that he was pissed about the lack of talent TT brought in and that was a subtle hint for him to leave. After last year that can hardly be said. Now there is a different reason. He was being pushed out by the pressure they put on him to make up his mind. For three years it's been something, now it's just something new.

[pbmax]

Merlin and Zig thanks. I also believe I read a rumor/leak that he was going to be the backup if he returned. But if they aren't on the record about that, then there is still room to negotiate.

TT in his initial interview said that he could come back to the team but his role would be different. Then, when the media went nuts on his statement he said that he didn't say backup, that they hadn't decided anything and he'd never dealt with anything like this before.

[Fosco33]

Just sounded like M3 and TT weren't on the same page.

I bet TT and M3 wanted a quick decision to make plans accordingly... so they ask Brett for one.

Then Brett talks with M3 and says, "I wish I would've had til training camp." - No way in M3's statement. But when Brett talked to TT on June 20th, TT said that would've been fine.

Hmmm. Why is it so hard for all of them to talk and clear it up? Amazing that BF's Packer career could end like this...

[Merlin]

I have only read the quote from Thompson where he says:

"Favre's welcome back, but the scenery has changed. There may be a different role," Thompson said. "He becomes an active member of the roster, and then we'll see how it goes from there. We don't have the answers right now, because it hasn't happened, and we don't know that it will."

Other then that, I thought the "backup" comment was writer embellishment.

Agreed, Merlin. I don't think TT ever said anything about Brett being a backup, and I find it kind of disturbing that Brett thinks he did....

Well we don't know exactly what those conversations entailed. I can see where Favre got the impression from if all that was said from Thompson is what he has stated publically. I am sure Favre knows Thompson better then we do. I still believe Thompson in his monotonic, fumbling speech kind of way has not done anything to really clarify his comments to date. From my understanding of what he has said, it sure looks like to me that Favre isn't welcome. I am wishing that tomorrow the Packers clear the air, Brett says my mistake, files his reinstatement papers, and is in camp. Hopefully tomorrow brings us another episode in the saga...

[RashanGary]

Merlin, GBRulz, trust me, there is nothing you can say that will take away from this moment for me. Favre is a very bad teammate and does not deserve to play in the NFL.

Keep the comments coming, JH and Trojan condoms might want to cast you in their new ad campaign.

That didn't hurt.

[Merlin]

There was absolutely nothing of consequence in this interview. The only thing that was new was that he would have liked to wait until training camp. FUCKING TRAINING CAMP people. How on earth can he say that with a straight face. And before I hear one person say he earned that right, how the hell do you prepare for a season without knowing who will be your starting QB?

I know there are a lot of people who are gonna say he sounded so sincere and honest. To me it was another load of BS. I said this is another thread, for years there were hints that he was pissed about the lack of talent TT brought in and that was a subtle hint for him to leave. After last year that can hardly be said. Now there is a different reason. He was being pushed out by the pressure they put on him to make up his mind. For three years it's been something, now it's just something new.

Michael Strahan anyone? He wasn't even in camp while he was deciding. He wasn't a backup come opening day.

[Bretsky]

Merlin and Zig thanks. I also believe I read a rumor/leak that he was going to be the backup if he returned. But if they aren't on the record about that, then there is still room to negotiate.

TT in his initial interview said that he could come back to the team but his role would be different. Then, when the media went nuts on his statement he said that he didn't say backup, that they hadn't decided anything and he'd never dealt with anything like this before.

They would be stupid to say anything like that on record

There is one obviously glaring difference

According to Favre at this point they do not want him back
According to TT and the interview it "appears" possible for him to come back...although he used his words wisely

[Merlin]

True dat Bretsky. But I think (or should I say am hopeful) that he chose them wisely to make sure that Favre was serious about playing again for Green Bay. I agree that Favre has yet to make that statement because he has not asked to be reinstated.

[Patler]

Was there a question about the March near-unretirement?

nope

Was there a question about anything??? - Nope!
Just an awful interview. VanSustern replied for him. If he didn't get it out clearly, she filled it in for him.

She should be embarassed by her performance, in my opinion. It was clearly a Brett Favre fan giving Favre a national podium, not a news reporter/commentator trying to cut through the spin to get down to the facts.

So very many questions that SHOULD be asked.

[pbmax]

One more thing and then I am done with aspersions, Favre and timelines.

Less than one month after he retired, two separate sources had Cook shopping Favre around to teams. Those rumors reignited in June I believe. Why, in March/April, was Cook shopping his client? June I get because resistance might have been felt.

But in the first timeframe, he had just turned down the opportunity to rejoin the team. What was Cook doing?

[Bretsky]

Was there a question about the March near-unretirement?

nope

Was there a question about anything??? - Nope!
Just an awful interview. VanSustern replied for him. If he didn't get it out clearly, she filled it in for him.

She should be embarassed by her performance, in my opinion. It was clearly a Brett Favre fan giving Favre a national podium, not a news reporter/commentator trying to cut through the spin to get down to the facts.

So very many questions that SHOULD be asked.

She let him speak; and Part 2 is tomorrow so maybe more juice will come out then. IMO he sounded stronger in his views than he normally does...much stronger.

[pbmax]

Stupid only if they wanted him back. If, as Woodbuck believes, they wanted him gone, that was a statement that seems designed to get Favre to publicly ask to be moved.

It still doesn't make sense, since they can't agree on trade versus release, but if they wanted him to publicly declare a desire to leave, then that might have done it.

Merlin and Zig thanks. I also believe I read a rumor/leak that he was going to be the backup if he returned. But if they aren't on the record about that, then there is still room to negotiate.

TT in his initial interview said that he could come back to the team but his role would be different. Then, when the media went nuts on his statement he said that he didn't say backup, that they hadn't decided anything and he'd never dealt with anything like this before.

They would be stupid to say anything like that on record

There is one obviously glaring difference

According to Favre at this point they do not want him back
According to TT and the interview it "appears" possible for him to come back...although he used his words wisely

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

Ya know what, JH? I wish you would STFU with your remarks about Favre. You are glad Rodgers is our QB, ok we get that. But to hear you continually disrespect one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game with your BS is beyond sickening.

I agree, and don't understand all the Favre hate lately. It's getting ridiculous. Seems like a bunch of misinformation from both the Packers Brass/Favre.

Bottom line, I saw both TT and Favre in their media soundoff in the past few days. Yes, Favre's seems bitter, but wouldn't you be too? He didn't sound wishy-washy as many have said on here, and hearing that crap really discourages people to post regularly on here when the same old BS from a few bashers on here gets posted over and over ad nauseum.

I'm holding my tongue till this gets sorted out till I start slinging BS about the greatest player we've seen in the past 2 decades in Green and Gold. Bottom line, I believe Favre WILL be starting this season for GB, when all is said and done.

[GBRulz]

This Favre stuff is driving a line between Packer fans. I hate that.

Might as well join the political discussions now..lol.

[PackerTimer]

Re: NAIL IS IN THE COFFIN

Ya know what, JH? I wish you would STFU with your remarks about Favre. You are glad Rodgers is our QB, ok we get that. But to hear you continually disrespect one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game with your BS is beyond sickening.

I agree, and don't understand all the Favre hate lately. It's getting ridiculous. Seems like a bunch of misinformation from both the Packers Brass/Favre.

Bottom line, I saw both TT and Favre in their media soundoff in the past few days. Yes, Favre's seems bitter, but wouldn't you be too? He didn't sound wishy-washy as many have said on here, and hearing that crap really discourages people to post regularly on here when the same old BS from a few bashers on here gets posted over and over ad nauseum.

I'm holding my tongue till this gets sorted out till I start slinging BS about the greatest player we've seen in the past 2 decades in Green and Gold. Bottom line, I believe Favre WILL be starting this season for GB, when all is said and done.

Really I don't mean to be an ass. But what would give you the impression that he'll be GB's starting QB?