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  • #46
    Originally posted by Carolina_Packer
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    Why is it complicated? Your starting QB from a 13-3 season is coming back to the team before training camp... thats not complicated..

    it might suck for Arod, but thats how the game works.. you play your best cards, you dont fold em
    If this is the case, then it would appear that Favre might have a sense of entitlement, which is never good. He has to be a good organization guy, always, not just in the rear view mirror as he has been. Did he really think that when he was finally ready and after the team had given him time, even past his retirement presser and he still wasn't sure, that he was just going to come back in and take the reigns? Isn't that a little deluded? Who is running the team? If he had approached them and said, damn, I know I put you in a tough spot and I know you have to do things that are for the good of the organization, but I'm ready to come back full-force, so if you think you'd have a way for me to compete for my job back, I'd sure like the opportunity." If his attitude was, I'm ready, give me the starters job, then that to me would indicate a sense of entitlement. Yes, sure he is the best option, but you would hope your leaders present themselves a bit better than that, if that's how he acted. Perhaps it was somewhat of hat in hand and assumption that he would be welcomed back whenever he decided. It's shocking to find out if you're Brett Favre that you can't just show up when it suits you and expect this or that. I'm sure that was eye-opening for him. Is the organization wrong for taking him to task?

    They wont be leaders for long if they start losing... thats always the kicker: win, win, win.... AT ANY COST!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Pacopete4
      So a coach of 3 years has earned the right to sit down a LEGEND after he's never missed a game for us, all the acolades, the trophy, the division wins EVERYTHING? Oh, and the fact that he played amazing last year doesn't tie into it?

      I would agree with you that MM has that choice had he shit the bed last year, or even if he missed training camp... but he hasnt missed anything yet

      Umm, YES Paco. MM does have the right. Being the head coach gives him that right. Don't you get it? Brett Favre is a only a quarterback. An exceptional quarterback indeed, but still nothing more than a quarterback. He's not a coach or a GM.
      Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Pacopete4
        I didn't read it as that... I read it as he pushed for things and was told something by TT and then basically a complete 180 was said and done about the situation... I've said it all along that TT is a weasel that happens to know football real well but doesnt handle people well... not sayin Favre should have ANY say in football matters, but if this did occur, that he does have a bitch
        Maybe, I'm not privy to private conversations, but I do know that TT had a deal setup for Moss and Bret lumped that into the same category. Clearly, TT was making an effort to get Moss, bungled or not, he wasn't saying one thing to Favre and saying something else to others.

        I'm of the mind that Favre talked with TT and TT said he was working toward whatever Favre said, when it fell through Favre assumed he was lying, when that's just how many of these things end up working out.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by GBRulz
          I am not a trade expert, but what is the possibility of Tampa doing the trade with GB... Then Tampa starts talking with MN or Chicago about an additional trade where Favre ultimately ends up with one of those teams.

          Is that something that could happen?
          Thats illegal unless Tampa completes the deal with Gb first BEFORE even talking to the Bears or Minny at all. Almost impossible that if Tampa traded for him in the first place that they would trade him again.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by cpk1994
            Originally posted by GBRulz
            I am not a trade expert, but what is the possibility of Tampa doing the trade with GB... Then Tampa starts talking with MN or Chicago about an additional trade where Favre ultimately ends up with one of those teams.

            Is that something that could happen?
            Thats illegal unless Tampa completes the deal with Gb first BEFORE even talking to the Bears or Minny at all. Almost impossible that if Tampa traded for him in the first place that they would trade him again.

            I dont know if its impossible because the Bucs know that Minny wants him.. makes it kinda easy.. they either have a HOF QB or a great trading piece because they do have Garcia still

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            • #51
              Easy enough to poison pill a trade to the Bucs.

              Make the pic conditional. If Favre plays for any team other than the Bucs in 2008 the pic becomes 2 first rounders.
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Zool
                Easy enough to poison pill a trade to the Bucs.

                Make the pic conditional. If Favre plays for any team other than the Bucs in 2008 the pic becomes 2 first rounders.

                By Tampa taking him, its making it easier on us... the more pain in the butt we make it, the less chance it happens

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Pacopete4
                  Originally posted by cpk1994
                  Originally posted by GBRulz
                  I am not a trade expert, but what is the possibility of Tampa doing the trade with GB... Then Tampa starts talking with MN or Chicago about an additional trade where Favre ultimately ends up with one of those teams.

                  Is that something that could happen?
                  Thats illegal unless Tampa completes the deal with Gb first BEFORE even talking to the Bears or Minny at all. Almost impossible that if Tampa traded for him in the first place that they would trade him again.

                  I dont know if its impossible because the Bucs know that Minny wants him.. makes it kinda easy.. they either have a HOF QB or a great trading piece because they do have Garcia still
                  You really think the Bucs want to explain to their fan base that they gave up a future HOF becuase they still have Garcia? IF the Bucs trade for him they are trading to play him.

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                  • #54
                    If this is true, the prima donna has completely lost his grasp on this world. Continuing to drag this franchise through the mud with all this ridiculous nonsense...because Tampa's too hot?????



                    Report: Tampa Bay too hot for Favre

                    By PFW staff
                    July 15, 2008

                    Brett Favre is trying to find a way out of Green Bay, but he’s not interested in an escape to Tampa Bay, according to reports.

                    The St. Petersburg Times reports that Favre recently told sources close to him that Tampa was "too hot," and he would prefer to go somewhere with cooler weather.

                    There has been speculation that the Bucs would be a good fit for Favre, since he is familiar with Jon Gruden and may want to play for a team with a good shot at the postseason.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by vince
                      If this is true, the prima donna has completely lost his grasp on this world. Continuing to drag this franchise through the mud with all this ridiculous nonsense...because Tampa's too hot?????



                      Report: Tampa Bay too hot for Favre

                      By PFW staff
                      July 15, 2008

                      Brett Favre is trying to find a way out of Green Bay, but he’s not interested in an escape to Tampa Bay, according to reports.

                      The St. Petersburg Times reports that Favre recently told sources close to him that Tampa was "too hot," and he would prefer to go somewhere with cooler weather.

                      There has been speculation that the Bucs would be a good fit for Favre, since he is familiar with Jon Gruden and may want to play for a team with a good shot at the postseason.


                      I find this completely hilarious... he just loves Green Bay weather too much!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by vince
                        If this is true, the prima donna has completely lost his grasp on this world. Continuing to drag this franchise through the mud with all this ridiculous nonsense...because Tampa's too hot?????



                        Report: Tampa Bay too hot for Favre

                        By PFW staff
                        July 15, 2008

                        Brett Favre is trying to find a way out of Green Bay, but he’s not interested in an escape to Tampa Bay, according to reports.

                        The St. Petersburg Times reports that Favre recently told sources close to him that Tampa was "too hot," and he would prefer to go somewhere with cooler weather.

                        There has been speculation that the Bucs would be a good fit for Favre, since he is familiar with Jon Gruden and may want to play for a team with a good shot at the postseason.

                        Yes, he lives in Southern Mississippi. So Tampa, FL would be a real shocker in the summer.
                        more freedom, less government. Go Sarah!

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                        • #57
                          cant take him outta his element too much..

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Pacopete4
                            Why is it complicated? Your starting QB from a 13-3 season is coming back to the team before training camp... thats not complicated..

                            it might suck for Arod, but thats how the game works.. you play your best cards, you dont fold em
                            The important thing I think you're missing is that it's apparent in Brett's words and actions that he doesn't want to come back to Green Bay. At least, why else would he be burning every bridge he can get his hands on?
                            </delurk>

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                            • #59
                              Can't have him being too uncomfortable now, can we. Screw the rest of the schmucks that are stupid enough to actually play for Tampa...

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by vince
                                If this is true, the prima donna has completely lost his grasp on this world. Continuing to drag this franchise through the mud with all this ridiculous nonsense...because Tampa's too hot?????



                                Report: Tampa Bay too hot for Favre

                                By PFW staff
                                July 15, 2008

                                Brett Favre is trying to find a way out of Green Bay, but he’s not interested in an escape to Tampa Bay, according to reports.

                                The St. Petersburg Times reports that Favre recently told sources close to him that Tampa was "too hot," and he would prefer to go somewhere with cooler weather.

                                There has been speculation that the Bucs would be a good fit for Favre, since he is familiar with Jon Gruden and may want to play for a team with a good shot at the postseason.
                                Don't you get it. This is just Favre's way of saying that he is sorry and wants to stay in that cold GB midwest weather.

                                I just wanted to get that out there before anybody else comes up with that theory.
                                Go PACK

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